Tim Scruggs history

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I love Scruggs pool cues. They are beautiful, and most of the ones I've played with hit great. I've heard stories here and there about how Tim started and who he worked with, but I was curious if any of his friends or people that know the true story would share it with us. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Scruggs, and I mean no harm at all. I just want to know how he got into cue making and how he got to be the legend that he is. Thanks.

Joe
 
The Blue Book of Pool Cues has a few paragraphs on Tim's history as a cue maker.
 
I love Scruggs pool cues. They are beautiful, and most of the ones I've played with hit great. I've heard stories here and there about how Tim started and who he worked with, but I was curious if any of his friends or people that know the true story would share it with us. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Scruggs, and I mean no harm at all. I just want to know how he got into cue making and how he got to be the legend that he is. Thanks.

Joe

Not a mystery.

Timmy started with Joss when it was Bill and Danny.
He stayed on after they split.

Went out on his own circa 1976 give or take.
IIRC - 1976 was the year of his first brochure.

This is all pretty standard info - I'm somewhat curious why you doubt it.
Care to comment?

Dale
 
Not a mystery.

Timmy started with Joss when it was Bill and Danny.
He stayed on after they split.

Went out on his own circa 1976 give or take.
IIRC - 1976 was the year of his first brochure.

This is all pretty standard info - I'm somewhat curious why you doubt it.
Care to comment?

Dale


Hi Dale;

I don't think the op said he doubted anything. Looks like he was just trying to learn some TS history hoping to connect the dots from what stories he has heard.

Best,
Brian kc
 
I love Scruggs pool cues. They are beautiful, and most of the ones I've played with hit great. I've heard stories here and there about how Tim started and who he worked with, but I was curious if any of his friends or people that know the true story would share it with us. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Scruggs, and I mean no harm at all. I just want to know how he got into cue making and how he got to be the legend that he is. Thanks.

Joe

This is from the Blue Book of pool cues
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Maker of pool cues from 1978 to present in Baltimore, Maryland.
Tim Scruggs became a master machinist at a young age while working at Davis and Hemphill for three years in the early 1960s. His true love was pool, and he resigned from the machinist job to run one of the pool halls in Baltimore. Dan Janes was running another pool hall in town at that time, and the two were in constant communication about the road players coming through town. One of these players was Bill Stroud, and in a few years, Dan and Bill were making Joss cues in Baltimore.
As a pool player and friend of Bill and Dan, Tim was one of the first to buy a Joss cue. When he visited the Joss shop, he ended up showing them how to sharpen drill bits. It was immediately apparent to Bill and Dan that Tim knew his way around a machine shop, so they offered him a full-time job with Joss. Tim worked for them for three months in 1970, then returned to the pool hall where he had been working.
For the next couple of years, Tim began to grow tired of running the pool hall, realizing that cuemaking could offer him a brighter long-term future. When Bill Stroud left Joss in 1972, Dan called Tim to see if he would come back. Tim accepted the offer, and told himself that this was what he wanted to do for the rest of his life. This time at Joss, Tim worked much harder, learning every aspect of cuemaking. For the next six years, Dan and Tim made Joss cues together.
In 1978, Tim decided to start making cues of his own. He went to visit with another young cuemaker, and friend, for many years. After this visit, Tim returned to Baltimore to set up shop. Bob Fry, a friend of Tim´s since the sixth grade, offered to help Tim to start making cues. That same year, Tim Scruggs Custom Cues was founded in an old meat storage building on the outer edge of Baltimore.
Early Tim Scruggs cues were similar to the cues he was making at Joss, but they were unmarked. Soon his cues developed their own unique style, and began a series of ongoing improvements. By the early 1980s, an intertwined "TS" was being stamped on the Delrin butt caps. All of Tim´s cues had ivory ferrules until 1985, when he started experimenting with other materials, eventually settling on melamine, with ivory being an option until 1997, when it became standard again. Linen-based ferrules are available for those who prefer them. In 1988, Tim stopped stamping his logo on cues, and started engraving it with a pantograph. This resulted in a much clearer, more uniform logo. Some of these cues will also have a date below the logo. In 1990, Tim switched from using a lacquer finish to a much better looking polyurethane. Delrin was used for standard butt caps until 1995, when it was replaced with Ivorine 3. In 1996, Tim started adding the last two digits of the year of completion around his identification marks.
Tim Scruggs Custom Cues makes a few cues a month, in the modern two-man shop he moved into in 1996. He moved from the original location that was founded in 1978. Tim makes everything except the tips, screws, and bumpers in house, with the help of Mike Cochran, who has worked for Tim for over twenty years. Mike is starting to make his own cues, which he signs, and may take over the business when Tim retires.
Tim tries to balance a cue before it is assembled so that weight does not have to be added at completion. He does a lot of ivory inlay work, and any kind of joint is available. The steel joint with radial pin Tim uses has become very popular because of its increased contact and more forward balance. Lately Tim has been specializing in building one-of-a-kind cues of his own design costing over $2,500 and offering them for sale on his website. He also likes to make custom cues for players, and what´s even better is that they like using them.
If you have a Tim Scruggs cue that needs further identification or repair, or would like to talk to Tim about ordering a new cue, contact Tim Scruggs Custom Cues, listed in the Trademark Index.
 
Hi Dale;

I don't think the op said he doubted anything. Looks like he was just trying to learn some TS history hoping to connect the dots from what stories he has heard.

Best,
Brian kc

Perhaps, but he said he had heard the story, yet asked if any friends, etc
new the TRUE story.

If he has no doubts, why ask for the TRUE story?

Dale
 
Perhaps, but he said he had heard the story, yet asked if any friends, etc
new the TRUE story.

If he has no doubts, why ask for the TRUE story?

Dale

Hey man, Im just curious about the true history from people who actually know Tim Scruggs, and how he came up. Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but im smart enough to know that I cant believe all the bs that gets tossed around at the pool hall by the people that "think" they know it all. No need to derail the thread, Im just enjoying learning more great pool history, thats all.

Joe
 
Hey man, Im just curious about the true history from people who actually know Tim Scruggs, and how he came up. Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but im smart enough to know that I cant believe all the bs that gets tossed around at the pool hall by the people that "think" they know it all. No need to derail the thread, Im just enjoying learning more great pool history, thats all.

Joe

Not trying to de-rail anything. Do you not understand that your language implies what you had heard was not true?

A straight forward request for more information would
have been much less troll-like.

Dale
 
Not trying to de-rail anything. Do you not understand that your language implies what you had heard was not true?

A straight forward request for more information would
have been much less troll-like.

Dale

I only see one troll here...you. Seriously your reading into something that's not there. Lol maybe cut back on the caffiene a bit
 
Not trying to de-rail anything. Do you not understand that your language implies what you had heard was not true?

A straight forward request for more information would
have been much less troll-like.

Dale

Wow. I'm trying to learn something here, and you come in and start calling people names. I don't know what your problem is man, but take it and your bad attitude elsewhere. I'm asking for Tim Scruggs info here, not asking you to come in and read something in to my thread that's not there. I thought my language (which is English by the way) was very clear. Everyone except you understood what I was asking. Jeez, the drama and bs on here is freakin never ending! I can't even ask a damn question without some dildo thinking I've got some sort of CIA type motive! Chill out man.

Joe
 
I love Scruggs pool cues. They are beautiful, and most of the ones I've played with hit great. I've heard stories here and there about how Tim started and who he worked with, but I was curious if any of his friends or people that know the true story would share it with us. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Scruggs, and I mean no harm at all. I just want to know how he got into cue making and how he got to be the legend that he is. Thanks.

Joe
I met Tim thru friend...think it was Towson Md. I ordered a cue to be made 60 in long. I used to go to his shop every week to see the progress on my cue. He was the only person to clean my cue or replace tips for about 8 years or more. He moved to Baltimore in a rowhouse shop. We used to play a few games when I saw him...Great guy. Love my cue..its about 30 years old now.
 
Jeez, the drama and bs on here is freakin never ending!

No shit! Best statement I think that has ever been spoken in these forums. You think this is bad, go to the NPR threads and you will be aquatinted with some real idiots that know nothing but speak volumes.

I didn’t see anything wrong with your post. However everyone is on edge these days.




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Anybody know the address of the chicken coop?
I'd also be interested in the address of where he went after.
Hey man, Im just curious about the true history from people who actually know Tim Scruggs, and how he came up. Im not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but im smart enough to know that I cant believe all the bs that gets tossed around at the pool hall by the people that "think" they know it all. No need to derail the thread, Im just enjoying learning more great pool history, thats all.

Joe
You could also acknowledge asking for the 'true story' and following with 'mean no harm' could imply you think there are falsehoods and a discussion could potentially have negative consequence.

You put the words out but don't control other's resulting inferences.

I love me some google maps, just a tad less than forums.azbilliards.com.
 
i never heard any thing about a young friend helping him between the time he left joss unless it was danny
and i spoke often with tim scruggs over a period of 25 years friendship

i thought he just started making cues when he seperated from joss for what ever reason

i think he remained good friends with billy and danny until the last

come to think of it,i don't remember when mike joined tim,but theirs was a story
of true friendship and loyalty

when tim could no longer do everything and it would have been to mikes advantage to leave,he stayed

with tim out of loyalty,love,friendship

when mike and tim passed away i was deeply saddened,pool lost
two great men
 
Anybody know the address of the chicken coop?
I'd also be interested in the address of where he went after.

You could also acknowledge asking for the 'true story' and following with 'mean no harm' could imply you think there are falsehoods and a discussion could potentially have negative consequence.

You put the words out but don't control other's resulting inferences.

I love me some google maps, just a tad less than forums.azbilliards.com.
Rural route 1.
 
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