Worlds Greatest Player vs. the Peoples Champion
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i will do it just because i have some wires that werent quite tight enough and im OCD on recording who won each rack played on video and iv watched this and have it documented so here goes:
1st set: Earl wins 10-8
2nd set: Efren wins 10-8
3rd set: Efren wins 10-8
4th set: Earl wins 10-6
5th set: Earl wins 10-6
6th set: Efren wins 10-7
7th set: Earl wins 10-7
8th set: Efren wins 10-7
9th set: Earl wins 10-7
10th set: Earl wins 10-6
11th set: Earl wins 10-9
12th set: Efren wins 10-8
13th set: Efren wins 10-1
14th set: Efren wins 10-3
15th set: Efren wins 10-8
at the end of this there is one extra game that Efren won to make it 120.
as far as if your playing points like 1 point for every race to 10 won that stands as thus:
Earl 7
Efren 8
You messed up somewhere there. After the first two sets the total score is 18-18 when it resets. Earl led the match 28-27, so he won the third match 10-9 if set 1 and set 2 are right.
Where did you get the data to do that though? Is there a breakdown of the entire match game for game that shows who won which games in a chart format or something? I looked and could not find one.
I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure the breakdown is listed in the Accu-Stats catalogue (not the online one) as they have this match for sale.
Celtic this is from me watching the match and documenting it myself in a excel spreadsheet as i do with all the matches that i watch. if you would like quote and reply and i can watch it again and disect each individual race to 10 would be glad to do so as i have the time through this week.
Koop the disc scores are listed not individual races to 10 like it has been stated to do instead of long races to 100 broken into 3 day matches as stated above.
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You certainly don't have to do that, we are talking alot of work there.
But Strickland goes up 28-27 at 2:40 of this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohPopW787T0
And if they each took a set 10-8 then that made the score 18-18 when it reset and the first guy to get to 28 won the third set, that guy was Earl.
let me tell you something about players like you...and most of the players out here today. Y'all are spoiled to death playing on todays tablesIf i could time-warp you all back to the 60's,70's and 80's and see how you like the pool tables and the conditions you had to play on back then...you'd never complain about todays pool tables...or cloth. We didn't have any simonis cloth, artemis cushions, super aramith pro balls...hell, even the tips on our cues were either elk masters or lepro's. Bar tables didn't have red circle cue balls...they had huge over sized cue balls...or were the valley magnetic never roll straight cue balls. Most of the cloth was mali...rubber backed....you'd be lucky if you could get the cue ball 4 rails around the table with a break stroke....provided you could keep the cue ball on the table.
How about playing on a 5x10 with mali thick nap cloth...with rubber backing...and dead cushions. Players back in my time had to really adapt to the equipment if you wanted to match up with someone to make some money....unlike today. We didn't even have much choice of cues either....unlike today where there's probably more cue makers out here today than there is "pro" in this game. I'd love to see any of the cry babies today have to go down to and end rail and pick up the cushion and put it back in place so they could do a long rail bank...lmao...or play some 9 ball on a bar box that has a corner pocket liner missing...and the metal corner casting has taken chunks out of the balls....but, they're still the ones on the table you have to play with...if you want the cash.
Glen
players like me? I played in the 80's dude, i played in those conditions, the thing is now you dont have to play in those gaffed up conditions. And there are many more good players today then back then, they would adapt just like you did, and the result would be the same! So if we have the opprtunity to play on good equipment lets do it and make it about the match, not about who can get used to some gaffed up table or balls
Well i would like to actually see how this breaks down so will have the results tomorrow around midnight or so. all races to 10 will be broken down by the game and who won each game. well gotta get watching will update soon.
Diamond has already changed the play of their rails, even before the last US Open....where have you been? Earl won on the new playing Diamond's in Florida, they were used in the Turning Stone...it's been talked about here on AZ...do you read as well as you type in cap letters?
dont be a dick, are these letters better for you? sorry I misspelled a word or made an error in my typing, didn't realize you were the azbilliard proof reader? I didn't make a comment to get flamed by you! I have played on the diamonds that still play like I stated, I haven't seen any changes.
get off your high horse and act right, we all share our opinions on here, that's why they call it a forum!
That is really impressing
Would you like to buy my username? Seems like you deserve it more than me :thumbup:That is really impressing
i assume that was meant as a light hearted joke and no i like being an aholic instead finishing first set to 10 right now. the entire race runs 14.5 hours which is good for your moeny
Who's involved???
Obviously the details are still being ironed out but does anyone know who all is puting this together???
Is Justin or Mark Cantrill involved seeing as it is featuring Shane and Earl??/
I'm so confused right now....all I know is that it is approximately 3 hrs from my house so I will be there for sure.
Obviously the details are still being ironed out but does anyone know who all is puting this together???
Is Justin or Mark Cantrill involved seeing as it is featuring Shane and Earl??/
I'm so confused right now....all I know is that it is approximately 3 hrs from my house so I will be there for sure.
Thanks for letting me know. I was wondering.
I was wondering. Thanks for letting me know.
A DICK? hmmmm, YOU are the one that keeps beating the drum about change to Diamond tables....when they've already been changed. As far as Gold Crowns go...if you like inconsistant pocket openings, inconsistant pocket angles, and inconsistant playing cushions....then go for it.
I'll tell you this for sure, had Diamond changed their rails 10 years ago to play the way they now do today...I seriously doubt Brunswick would have come out with the Gold Crown 5...as Diamond would have owned the market 10 years sooner. They're even more lucky that Diamond didn't start out 25 years ago with the rails they have today
...so, as far as being a dick goes...I think you need to look in the mirror buddy...while you keep talking the same old BS!...and read some more posts about how the Pro's like the changes!Glen
Who knows...if it's a GC...the pocket slate shelves are very short, there's a question about the pockets being right...and not triple shimmed, and the cushions playing right....because there is no such thing as a factory GC 5'x10' anymore...as they've all been worked on by table mechanic's in the past.
If it's an Olhausen, then consider the factor of the Olhausen pocket rattle everytime a ball is shot into a corner pocket...fairly well!
If it's an antique...who knows what condition that's in.
I just know...it's NOT a Diamond for sure!
So are you going to take Chip's 3:1 bet? You seem pretty confident so might as well get that free money, right?
A DICK? hmmmm, YOU are the one that keeps beating the drum about change to Diamond tables....when they've already been changed. As far as Gold Crowns go...if you like inconsistant pocket openings, inconsistant pocket angles, and inconsistant playing cushions....then go for it.
I'll tell you this for sure, had Diamond changed their rails 10 years ago to play the way they now do today...I seriously doubt Brunswick would have come out with the Gold Crown 5...as Diamond would have owned the market 10 years sooner. They're even more lucky that Diamond didn't start out 25 years ago with the rails they have today
Glen
Glen,
you sir must be stupid, I made exactly 1 post regarding diamond tables. Hardly beating the drum! I even said it was just my opinion, and asked all the diamond supporters, such as yourself, not to flame me for doing so! with an lol at the end. so when I call you a dick for just dogging my opinion, my typing, and every other nasty thing you said about my post, I mean it.
why would you be like that? because my opinion isn't shared by you? jay didn't dog me about it, he had a different opinion, but he is a gentlemen on here and in person, maybe you should learn to have some manners like him! he is a class act in my opinion, you could learn alot from him.
aaaah, now it makes sense why you dogged me so much about my opinion of diamond tables, you work for them! your biased because of that fact. you know what, I don't have a problem with you standing tall for diamond, you should, you work for them and believe their the best table. what you should understand is that because someone has a different opinion, you shouldn't just berate them on this forum because of it. diplomacy goes a long way! you should try it sometime.