Earl's version of what happened at SBE.
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You make a valid point, however, in all fairness go back and read Earl's account of what transpired. Earl questioned the TD's integrity, he accused the TD of favoritism towards Alex, he accused Alex of deliberately tilting the rack despite multiple attempts to correct it, he said that Johnny Archer was sharking him and he called the other players cheaters.
I have a hard time believing that Earl's version of the events that transpired is more credible than the TD's.
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The whole thing is a mess.....
This situation should be investigated by the following group:
http://www.youtube.com/InsidePOOLmag#p/a/f/1/GUs5PlM1inU
I am slow on the upload but the ABP could help influence the terms and policies regarding player ejection from tournaments.
What other scrutinies do players face when competing?
At the US Open temperature controls should be negotiable, it was a bit chilly there. And private space for players to eat and not be distracted by crowds, that is common in many sport event competitions.
Since Earl brought up the crowd issue, how about separating player competition from player promotion for events. At events players want to play their best and having to work a crowd is an additional work responsibility.
A difficulty the ABP will have is stating public opinions could make them targets for certain promoters.
After the ABP starts revving up their influence organizers will have to abide rules set by players it will be a great power struggle upsetting the old monopoly organizers had.
(Archers a yapper.)
http://www.youtube.com/InsidePOOLmag#p/a/f/1/GUs5PlM1inU
I am slow on the upload but the ABP could help influence the terms and policies regarding player ejection from tournaments.
What other scrutinies do players face when competing?
At the US Open temperature controls should be negotiable, it was a bit chilly there. And private space for players to eat and not be distracted by crowds, that is common in many sport event competitions.
Since Earl brought up the crowd issue, how about separating player competition from player promotion for events. At events players want to play their best and having to work a crowd is an additional work responsibility.
A difficulty the ABP will have is stating public opinions could make them targets for certain promoters.
After the ABP starts revving up their influence organizers will have to abide rules set by players it will be a great power struggle upsetting the old monopoly organizers had.
(Archers a yapper.)
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Based on what the TD said, he had an OBLIGATION to eject Earl from the Tournament..and what Strickland said in the lobby to fans wanting an autograph or a picture is beyond unacceptable..don't ever compare him to McEnroe in tennis..McEnroe was never a scumbag. And when he represents us in the Mosconi Cup he's an embarrassment. He's a walking disaster and an admitted cheater/liar. The Game will be better off when he retires from it, whether you think he was a great player or not. And he certainly is no Efren Reyes..not as a cueist..a shotmaker..an all around player or a man.
mlalum
Banned
Bravo, Bravo
Earl doesnt owe anyone anything. Its a treat to watch him hit balls.
Well, if I had been a member of this forum for 5+ years, I would surely have learned how to change my avatar from the default. (Or at least left it blank, like I've been doing lately.)
When he acts like a complete lunatic and/or a spoiled child..and worse when that berates HIS OWN fans that support his career just for asking for an autograph or picture...I think the treat is watching him exit the building. His entry fee should be given to charity and he should be fined just as golfers and tennis players are when they misbehave on the court/course.
He is in no way entitled to ANY special treatment simply because anyone feels its a "treat" to watch him hit balls..Its a bigger treat to see Tiger Woods hit balls but the minute he does something "unsportsmanlike" Tim Finchem hits him with a HUGE fine..he is fined more than any player on the PGA Tour..and he's the greatest player the world will ever know...Earl Strickland is no Tiger Woods..we all know that...now Earl needs to understand that..shut his mouth and play pool. Nobody is against a little color or personality in the game, we are all for it..but when its always negative and childish and goes on for 30 years its time to mature or walk away. When you are known for your ridiculously negative antics more then your game, its hurting your sport.
Arnold Palmer is notorious for telling pros never turn down an autograph..you might be tired, angry or want "personal" time but for that young kid who wants your autograph it means the WORLD to him..Palmer to this day signs autographs till his hands bleed and interacts with the fans so much so that he grew the sport for 40 years and is a beloved figure. Maybe since Earl is such a golf fan he might wanna stop yelling at his fans which is unthinkable and pose for a couple of shots. There aren't thousands lining up. I don't think 2-3 pictures would kill him..aside from the fact he should feel HONORED to be asked for one.
“He [Earl] was yelling at the crowd, yelling at Alex, telling Alex not to do certain things, just sharking, constantly sharking. I warned him again, and it got to the point where he was losing at this point now. It was the first shot on the table. It was the one ball, he was going to bank the one so he took the cue and went whack whack whack whack whack on the side pocket like ‘It’s going in here!’ and he was whacking the side of the table.
Hows that for crazy..doesn't sound like a treat to me.
the "call"
What I actually said to Earl was.... "Your apponent has 15 mins from the time I call his name" Not make a phone call to him
What I actually said to Earl was.... "Your apponent has 15 mins from the time I call his name" Not make a phone call to him
Seems such a shame that you chose this of all moments to disqualify him. In the middle of a misunderstanding. I'm sure if you would have clarified that you didn't mean you were going to call Earl's opponent on his cell phone then Earl would have calmed down.
Had you disqualified him while he was doing something more out of line I think you would have less people disappointed in your decision.
Frank D you are a massive fail.
I stay up all night for that tournament to watch Earl, My fav. player. yes I live in Asia and have to stay all night. then you choose not to play Alex vs Earl match on tv table, by the logic of "It will be an advantage to Earl since he already played on tv table and Alex hasn't" but it doesn't make any sense to me, Alex is a champion he's been in TV table for like a thousand of times, its not an advantage, but I then said OK. Maybe thats how he runs his stuff, But later that day there was another match between Parica and some guy (That guy hasnt been on tv table, and Parica has been on the tv table) yet they played on tv, why that game was any difference? doesn't it gives Parica an edge "From your logic" or wait... let me guess, you just dislike Earl. and don't want him on tv table and made up a logic out of nowhere....
Then after awhile, you didn't Boot Earl on Parica match, and you didn't boot him on Alex Match, which would be more convincing if you did, but you only gave warning..... then after a day, you booted him from a 3rd strike... but what was the 3rd strike really? I can't remember it, just by him asking where his opponent was? Interesting....
every year you boot somebody from the Expo, please don't do it again next year, we viewers and fans don't like it, try to deal with it with talking to players , reasoning with them. just like jay h. and scott usually do...
You just tired and want to see your fav player to play and become upset because you fail to watch him play. Please stop the negative thinking about the TD.
Earl has a fan base so do Alex and many Pro player on the tournaments. The TD already know it exactly and he must make a good decision for every player on the tournament including play with such and such table. Just imagine, if he finally make a decision to set they match on TV Table and let's say alex lose that match. Maybe many of alex fan and alex will complaint to the TD for his decision.
You can not make the whole world happy with your decision.
Earl just a man with a great talent to become a billiard pro.. while Frank got a talent also to become a sport organizer. Me, on the other side has a talent on bussiness, while Whitney Houston got talent on her voice. Everybody has the special thing on their.
Earl is not a god at all...So, please stop defense him if he make his own fault. If every TD on a tournament give a special treatment to player like earl. I believe it will hurt the Pool world. Everyone must give an attention to this matter.
Good post, and I agree! :clapping::clapping:
Frank
Don't try to defend yourself on here. They will never stop. The ones who complain, will never see things your way. While I don't agree with the exact timing of kicking Earl out, I do have to agree with him being ejected. He was warned repeatedly.
Don't try to defend yourself on here. They will never stop. The ones who complain, will never see things your way. While I don't agree with the exact timing of kicking Earl out, I do have to agree with him being ejected. He was warned repeatedly.
I agree with you.
Frank is nice enough to come on here and share his side of the story. Earl's friends and fans have shared his side.
Bottom line, whether anybody wants to agree with it or not, the TD is the final ruling authority. Each professional pool player is well aware that they cannot override a TD's decision.
Keith has had bad calls in the past by TDs watching a hit. I can remember one instance at the SBE in the Pro/Am event when the referee was called to look at a hit, and he just stood there after Keith's opponent made the shot.
Finally, Keith says, "Hey, Ref, what's your call?" The Ref said good hit. Meanwhile, it was so obvious that it was a bad hit. The entire rail yelled out, "That was a bad hit." I have trouble myself recognizing bad hits and good hits, but then again, I'm not a TD or a ref. Even Keith's opponent after the match knew it was a bad hit and apologized to Keith. He kept on shooting, even though he himself knew it was a bad hit. Professional competitors must respond to the TD or ref's instruction, whether they agree with it or not. That's how tournaments are run.
Refs and TDs are people, I guess. They're capable of error, just like umpires in baseball make bad calls sometimes. Whether you agree or disagree, that's the final decision, and the competitors must comply with the ruling authority's call.