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Old School 1960s Micarta Material
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A couple small details.
Those 'famous' cuemakers you mentioned only started using the lamminated Micarta
when the original ferrule material was no longer available from Westinghouse.
The original material was not lamminated.
Also, IIUC - the GE version is phenolic - as was the Micarta used after the original
material was no longer available, the original is NOT a phenolic, but rather a different resin.
Good luck with your sale.
Dale
Those 'famous' cuemakers you mentioned only started using the lamminated Micarta
when the original ferrule material was no longer available from Westinghouse.
The original material was not lamminated.
Also, IIUC - the GE version is phenolic - as was the Micarta used after the original
material was no longer available, the original is NOT a phenolic, but rather a different resin.
Good luck with your sale.
Dale
this seems a touch outragous you want someone to spend 90 bucks on a ferrule then charge 125 to put one on???? so i invest 90 to make 35? that is if some crazy person comes in and actually wants it for that price. i charge 20 to put on a 1 dollar ferrule, seems to be a much better cost to profit margin.
im not trying to be rude im just trying to understand why so expensive, and if it really plays that good wouldnt someone start making it again or more top players use it?
i dont know of any that do tho.
i have some and wasnt impressed.
im not trying to be rude im just trying to understand why so expensive, and if it really plays that good wouldnt someone start making it again or more top players use it?
i dont know of any that do tho.
i have some and wasnt impressed.
Trent,
If someone buys a ferrule they can have it put on by a local guy for 30 dollars with a tip. There is a sliding scale price point for cue makers or repair guys listed in my schedule that brings the cost down based on economies of scale.
This post is intended to advertise a commodity. It's been my experience that anyone that starts out saying something like "I am not trying to be rude" usually is trying to be rude or is really stupid. Stop minding other peoples business.
If nobody wants to buy this material, I am OK with that. I highly doubt that you have any ever been exposed to this particular material and I doubt that you own any. If you were not impressed, that's fine. I am not impressed with your ignorance to interfere with someone else's offering.
Stick to your 1 dollar ferrules.
Rick G
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Not to butt in, but this relates to me indirectly....
In a slightly more diplomatic tone, it is all due to the Law
of Supply and Demand. This material has not been made since 1976,
and will never be made again - for reasons no one will explain.
The plastics manufacturers don't care how good it plays. They will
never make any more.
The price situation is similar to ivory, which is also not popular
with top players, but if you want any - you must pay a premium.
And they are still making elephants
You make a good point about the Return on Investment percentage
of proffit. What you might not be considering is that you can make
50-ish dollars for installing a ferrule that you would not ever get
using the 1 dollar ferrules.
Dale
Trent they were charging $20.00 for a ferrule 30 years ago when $20.00 had some value.
Asbestos Fabric. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Asbestos and paper I think.
Asbestos could be just an excuse though.
It was an expensive process I am told. The paper was rolled and was squeeged after every layer of resin was applied.
Could be just another pool tale though.
> I've always thought the paper they used was asbestos based,then added the resin,LOL.
I've had 4 conversations with this guy on Practical Machinist that has real weight over there that says he worked for Westinghouse and says there NEVER was any asbestos in it. No clue.
I've never been exposed to it other than working on one of my Schon shafts that has a Micarta of SOME kind on it,but I'm betting what is offered here would be kick ass :thumbup:.
There is no way I'm debating the price,not my place
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Also have no reason to debate that it is as advertised . Tommy D.
I've had 4 conversations with this guy on Practical Machinist that has real weight over there that says he worked for Westinghouse and says there NEVER was any asbestos in it. No clue.
I've never been exposed to it other than working on one of my Schon shafts that has a Micarta of SOME kind on it,but I'm betting what is offered here would be kick ass :thumbup:.
There is no way I'm debating the price,not my place
. Also have no reason to debate that it is as advertised
. Tommy D.
Price is price...........don't like it, move along. If it's priced right, it'll sell. If it isn't, maybe we'll see it at a different price later....maybe we won't.
FWIW - the original, highly desired material, was not lamminated, and was
not phenolic. It was first popular with knifemakers because it 'aged'
something like ivory. They will pay more than pool players for it today.
I have also heard from people who claim to know, that only material
sold to the Military had any asbestos content.
BTW Westinghouse had many products sold under the name Micarta,
could have been dozens.
Dale
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We had an old Westing House electrical supply plant that closed down a few years ago.
After I came on as a member and learned of the value of WH Micarta, I've often wondered if they had a stock in the back that got tossed when they closed their doors. It almost hurts to think those thoughts tho, know what I mean.
After I came on as a member and learned of the value of WH Micarta, I've often wondered if they had a stock in the back that got tossed when they closed their doors. It almost hurts to think those thoughts tho, know what I mean.