ABP boycotts Berhman's event

cleary said:
Why would their be a 7 figure pool player? How??? Have you been to a baseball game? 70,000 people buying tickets to 81 home games buying $6 hotdogs and $9 beers.

Or have you been to the US Open 9ball championship with 300 people for 7 days buying $6 hot dogs and $9 beers?

Kind of a different crowd.
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For the record, the food and beer is a lot cheaper than that at the US Open 9 Ball Championships! (That is, however, close to the prices at the US Open Golf Championships. I've been to both.) Attendance figures are kind of low, too.

Brian in VA
 
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CallShotCowboy said:
Just got this release, and thought I would share with the rest of you. Thoughts?





ABP Pro Players Not Attending the 2011 US Open 9-Ball Championship
From ABP General Attorney Dennis Walsh

Chicago, Illinois- It is with regret that the general professional body of the Association of Billiard Professionals will not be attending the 2011 US Open 9-Ball Championship promoted by Mr.Barry Behrman. Nor will these ABP pros attend the Masters 10-Ball or any event promoted by Mr.Behrman because of monies owed to players and lack of secure funds of prize money before each of his events.

One of the goals of the Association of Billiards Professionals is to provide a platform where touring professionals can pursue the sport they love as a full time career and achieve reasonable financial success. To that end discussions have been ongoing since last year with representatives of the US Open and representatives of the ABP.

Repeated attempts by the ABP organization to obtain guarantees that the prize money will be in place have been refused and therefore it is with regret that the Association and its members have decided to neither support nor attend the 2011 US Open 9-Ball Championship. Notwithstanding the Association’s deep respect for Barry Behrman for his contribution to pool these many years, the players simply cannot commit their time and their expenses for an uncertain payday.

"As a former US Open 9-Ball champion, it's painful to not be able to attend this year, as it is always great to play in it. However, the ABP and its goals are more important than my personal goals, and we need to start taking the necessary steps to pave the way for the future of the game and its up and coming stars."- Rodney Morris, ABP Board of Directors

"It is with sadness that I must withdraw from one of my favourite tournaments ever. In doing so, I hope the sacrifices we are making raises the standard of the elements that our beautiful sport lacks. The ABP's goals are to the benefit of the sport and to restore the confidence of cooperation between players, associations and promoters alike. I stand behind this vision fully. " - Mika Immonen, ABP Board of Directors and Two time US Open 9-Ball Champion.

"The US Open is the greatest and most prestigious event on American soil. I am truly sorry we cannot attend this event. But we have an obligation to protect all players now and in the future. I am hopeful in the future all things will be worked out so all players can participate in all great and safe tournaments." - Johnny Archer, President of the ABP.

Regardless if this is a BCA or WPA Sanctioned event, the following ABP Professional Players will not attend:


Johnny Archer USA
Mika Immonen FIN
Efren Reyes PHI
Francisco Bustamante PHI
Darren Appleton ENG
Shane Van Boening USA
Rodney Morris USA
Alex Pagulayan PHI
Dennis Orcullo PHI
Thorsten Hohmann GER
Lee Van Corteza PHI
John Schmidt USA
Corey Deuel USA
Huidji See NED
Mike Sigel USA
Nick Varner USA
Buddy Hall USA
CJ Wiley USA
Tony Drago MLT
Raj Hundal ENG
Karl Boyes ENG
Imran Majid ENG
Marcus Chamat SWE
Roberto Gomez PHI
Carlo Biado PHI
Warren Kiamco PHI
Antonio Lining PHI
Jundel Mazon PHI
Shawn Putnam USA
Mike Davis USA
Stevie Moore USA
Oscar Dominguez USA
Charlie Williams USA
Dennis Hatch USA
Jeremy Jones USA
Allen Hopkins USA
Scott Frost USA
Ernesto Dominguez MEX
Kim Davenport USA
Rob Saez USA
Tony Crosby ENG
Art Wiggins USA
Tommy Najar USA

This list will be updated as more pro members join and may choose to not participate.
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The Goal of this group must be to revert back to the days of being roadmen and hustling in bars.Do they realize our economony is in dire straits ? This is not the time to make demands! Their are no TV contracts out there, WAKE UP PLAYERS you are attacking one of your best allies! Stop listening to someone who has a bruised ego he is leading you on the path to NOWHERE!!!
 
Hello All, this is the ABP. All board members and people working within the ABP will have access to this username and respond to some of the issues and also shed some light on other areas
 
ABPpros said:
Hello All, this is the ABP. All board members and people working within the ABP will have access to this username and respond to some of the issues and also shed some light on other areas
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If you want to be taken seriously here I suggest you have Mike Howerton vet this account as being real. I also urge whoever posts with it sign their name to their posts since you will have multiple users.

If this is real I look forward to hearing what you have to say.
 
ABPpros said:
Hello All, this is the ABP. All board members and people working within the ABP will have access to this username and respond to some of the issues and also shed some light on other areas
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Why don't they just use their own screen name? Most everyone on the Board of Directors is registered at this site anyway. Will each board member identify themselves so that people know who they are speaking with?

:confused:
 
ABPpros said:
Hello All, this is the ABP. All board members and people working within the ABP will have access to this username and respond to some of the issues and also shed some light on other areas
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And, just who are you? Charlie? Johnny? How do we know you actually represent them??

Also, I believe from the terms of service you agreed to when you signed on, I'm not sure that "all board members and people" will have access to this account. Up to Mike, I guess.
 
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After reading all the post since my own I still remain unchanged. If I was the money man I would just ban the people that boycotted the event, and move on. They certainly aren't helping the promoter put on the event like they are supposed too be doing...

Pro players are to grow the sport. Bring asses, and hats to the stands so to speak.

I am at a loss on who would not attend the event in the case that these "greats" do not show? Is there some money they bring to the event? Is there fans by the hundreds of thousands showing up? (dozens is accurate) dozens of fans that do not spend money...

Without any of the list players playing it is still the best players alive attending the US Open.

They can boycott themselves right out of a really crappy job (pro) this way. The truth is there is nothing "pro's" bring that the US Open needs from them. In a real business this discussion would be subject for jokes for years to come. If Barry were a businessman that made real money he wouldn't even talk to them a second time. Ok, let me get this straight? You don't like the way I paid you last time, so you don't want the money at all this time? That is all my mind sees...

THE EVENT IS A OPEN EVENT. NOT A PRO EVENT! There is NO players that can say anything... Either show up and play, or don't.

You must show your value to have it? They have no real value it is all made up "spin". Take them all out replace them with anyone to get same results.

Last questions...

How many people on that list know they are on that list?
How many of the men on that list have a felony criminal record?
Is it the time in jail we tax payers paid that made you so good at shooting little pool balls into big holes?
Is that funny or just a joke?
Is it true about the minor's???

"You could take Johnny Archer and start him on fire, put him at a pool table shooting in Time Square, and the people still won't watch him play."

My point is that in order for you to strong arm your money man you better have something he wants...

ITS CALLED SATIRE do not take me too seriously...just had a few of my own thoughts.
 
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Blackjack said:
Why don't they just use their own screen name? Most everyone on the Board of Directors is registered at this site anyway. Will each board member identify themselves so that people know who they are speaking with?

:confused:
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May I have your attention, please? May I have your attention, please?

Will the *real* Slim Shady please stand up? I repeat, will the "real* Slim Shady please stand up?

We're going to have a problem here.:p
 
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ABPpros said:
Hello All, this is the ABP. All board members and people working within the ABP will have access to this username and respond to some of the issues and also shed some light on other areas
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Heh I made the troll go red.

ABP has the right acronym. A Big Pain. Or A Bunch of Pansies

Boycot the Masters if you want. But leave the OPEN alone. After all, its the only of the few tournaments where amatures get to feel like we are in the big time.

I found this tidbit on the Derby's Website....

Regardless of the sport, all competitors have valid reasons for participating in tournaments and contests - recognition, the level of play, the internalized struggle, and the personal satisfaction. Rarely do they mention monetary reward, but as the old adage suggests, if they say it's the principle, it's the money. After all, "Show me the money" may be the new catch phrase, but the concept is an old one. It is not unusual for professional players with financial acumen and business write-offs to complain about the size of entry fees in the relation to prize money potential or size of purse. Ben Franklin wanted two birds with one stone, and these days, everyone with time management skills and economic savvy wants the best bang for their buck. The Derby City Classic presented by Horseshoe Casino and Hotel, with a high level of guaranteed prize money in relation to its low entry fee, provides an explosive opportunity that few players, professional or amateur, will ignore. Only in The Derby City Classic presented by Horseshoe Casino and Hotel can a total and modest $405 (Entry Fees include a $10.00 registration fee for each event) entry fee investment give you the chance to win money in all three different games. It's an irresistible billiards trifecta.
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Is it relavant? I think so.
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
Where's Exxon/Mobil who I noticed were sponsors of the World 9 ball Championship in Qatar? Why aren't they being pressed?

Best,
Brian kc
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A member of the royal family in Qatar has a little more pull when asking Exxon/Mobil for money than Barry Behrman does. Exxon/Mobil has a bit of an incentive to remain on Qatar's good side.:smile:
 
cleary said:
Why would their be a 7 figure pool player? How??? Have you been to a baseball game? 70,000 people buying tickets to 81 home games buying $6 hotdogs and $9 beers.

Or have you been to the US Open 9ball championship with 300 people for 7 days buying $6 hot dogs and $9 beers?

Kind of a different crowd.
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You got that right, a different crowd indeed. Your post got me thinking and I believe I've come up with a solution to the financial problems of not only the US Open but all of professional pool and room owners - coin op drinking fountains. :rolleyes:
 
12ozCurl said:
How many "Friend of a Friend" Stories have we heard about this. Much less the truth reguarding these stories. There are 3 sides to each story. The complaintant, Defender, and Truth. All we have heard is vague complaints.
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we have nothing but facts~johnny archer= -president
 
This is JOHNNY ARCHER, President of the ABP. I will be online for the next 10 minutes. Hit me with your questions.
 
ABPpros said:
This is JOHNNY ARCHER, President of the ABP. I will be online for the next 10 minutes. Hit me with your questions.
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Uh, first, you must prove that you're Johnny Archer.

What place did you come in at the 2006 Carolinas Open?
 
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