Knoxville Bust

Got Ya Jam, Just another reason that the young man mentioned in your other thread should stay in school!! Maybe his mentors could be encouraged to read the article and steer the young man to a better future than the one awaiting the folks in Knoxville...
 
Quesports said:
Got Ya Jam, Just another reason that the young man mentioned in your other thread should stay in school!! Maybe his mentors could be encouraged to read the article and steer the young man to a better future than the one awaiting the folks in Knoxville...
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I understand your thoughts.

That said, there's also people that are not in the pool community that sometimes get busted for the same thing.

Personally, I can't understand how a guy can murder somebody, get out of jail in 4 years, but if you get caught with marijuana, you are facing a mandatory sentence of 10 years *and* a $10 million fine. Something seems wrong with these sentencing guidelines.

The young man in the other article may want to shoot pool professionally for the sole reason to soar on a field of green. It may not have anything to do with financial gain. That's why some pool players made pool their lifestyle. Their passion for pool may have been a higher priority to them than you and me.
 
JAM said:
I understand your thoughts.

That said, there's also people that are not in the pool community that sometimes get busted for the same thing.

Personally, I can't understand how a guy can murder somebody, get out of jail in 4 years, but if you get caught with marijuana, you are facing a mandatory sentence of 10 years *and* a $10 million fine. Something seems wrong with these sentencing guidelines.

The young man in the other article may want to shoot pool professionally for the sole reason to soar on a field of green. It may not have anything to do with financial gain. That's why some pool players made pool their lifestyle. Their passion for pool may have been a higher priority to them than you and me.
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I understand your point, but in fairness to qualify for the first offense mandatory 10 year sentence you have to be convicted of a conspiracy involving over 2,000 pounds of marijuana.
 
abundy said:
I understand your point, but in fairness to qualify for the first offense mandatory 10 year sentence you have to be convicted of a conspiracy involving over 2,000 pounds of marijuana.
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I do know what you mean. Unfortunately, the legal interpretation of "conspiracy" can be interpreted a plethora of ways, including the RICO statute.

And if somebody had knowledge that somebody else was involved in an illegal activity, they can be convicted on conspiracy, even if it is knowledge after the fact.

I'm a believer in our justice system. I deal with it every day in my line of work. It is sad to know that one out of every 100 people in the United States is incarcerated, the majority of which whose crimes are related to substance abuse in one way or another.
 
Justice

I have wanted to be a believer but at my age I think it is better to refer to it as our legal system.
 
Agreed on the 'justice' system actually being a social legal system. I remember someone said "What we have is law. If you want justice you'll have to wait until after you die."
 
So which ones are pool players beyond Buford Rogers?

I personally do not think the US drug policy is working. We pool players as a group have quite a few incarcerated players and until the law changes other players should consider the current consequences before entering the distribution game. That being said we will have to wait and see what comes of this bust, they are innocent until proven guilty and I do not know any facts of the charges.
 
I agree with you Jam. My feelings on our justice system are very jaded. I got busted once back in the 60's with a very wealthy friend. The desk sergeant asked our names and when he heard my friends last name his jaw just dropped. His Dad was loaded and owned the land under most of the town including the police station! Needless to say the sergeant told me I was one lucky SOB and told us both to get out of his station before he changed his mind.. Money & the influence it conveys control our system and when you see it firsthand it is something you don't forget... The wealthy ARE treated differently by our justice system just look at the Hollywood stars when they get busted..



JAM said:
I understand your thoughts.

That said, there's also people that are not in the pool community that sometimes get busted for the same thing.

Personally, I can't understand how a guy can murder somebody, get out of jail in 4 years, but if you get caught with marijuana, you are facing a mandatory sentence of 10 years *and* a $10 million fine. Something seems wrong with these sentencing guidelines.

The young man in the other article may want to shoot pool professionally for the sole reason to soar on a field of green. It may not have anything to do with financial gain. That's why some pool players made pool their lifestyle. Their passion for pool may have been a higher priority to them than you and me.
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Looking for that quick, easy money but ten years in prison is neither quick nor easy.
 
elvicash said:
So which ones are pool players beyond Buford Rogers?
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There are four names that are very familiar to me, one in particular I know well, but it might be because I have traveled and met some of these pool peeps at various pool events.

elvicash said:
I personally do not think the US drug policy is working. We pool players as a group have quite a few incarcerated players and until the law changes other players should consider the current consequences before entering the distribution game. That being said we will have to wait and see what comes of this bust, they are innocent until proven guilty and I do not know any facts of the charges.
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At the time of this writing, all 21 of them are being held without bond. Grapevine says one had their house confiscated by the Feds.
 
Quesports said:
I agree with you Jam. My feelings on our justice system are very jaded. I got busted once back in the 60's with a very wealthy friend. The desk sergeant asked our names and when he heard my friends last name his jaw just dropped. His Dad was loaded and owned the land under most of the town including the police station! Needless to say the sergeant told me I was one lucky SOB and told us both to get out of his station before he changed his mind.. Money & the influence it conveys control our system and when you see it firsthand it is something you don't forget... The wealthy ARE treated differently by our justice system just look at the Hollywood stars when they get busted..
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What is curious to me is how somebody in Iowa gets busted with a roach in their ashtray, and they will do some time. In California, law enforcement looks the other way, and if you have a doctor's script, you can smoke pot legally.
 
Legalize and tax is the solution, worked with alcohol and its a far dangerous drug then pot. Problem is the pill companies want to keep pushing and if pot were legalized it would cut into the profits. :cool:
 
JAM said:
What is curious to me is how somebody in Iowa gets busted with a roach in their ashtray, and they will do some time. In California, law enforcement looks the other way, and if you have a doctor's script, you can smoke pot legally.
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There are a number of states now that have legalized it. I know that one previous dealer is now a licensed grower and is allowed to produce any amount for their own consumption and I believe two plants for sale through their "distribution network". Only difference now is that they sell less and pay taxes.
 
None of those names looks that familiar to me. Since we are on the topic of Tennessee pool players going to jail did anyone ever find out how Bobby Pickle ended up with his most recent brush with the law? Just curious.

Thanks
-don
 
Canada is very liberal when it comes to possession of MJ for personal use.
Its quite easy to get a permit to possess for medical purpose and to grow for the same reason.

Get caught with a grow OP and you can pretty much kiss everything that you own good bye, with the exception of maybe the clothes on your back.
Not worth it.
 
Department of Justice
United States Attorney William C. Killian Eastern District of Tennessee
TWENTY-ONE INDIVIDUALS INDICTED ON DRUG, MONEY LAUNDERING, AND FIREARMS CHARGES


On September 13, 2011, a federal grand jury sitting in Greeneville, Tenn. indicted these 21 people on 45 separate counts including, a conspiracy to distribute and to possess with the intent to distribute marijuana, cocaine, and oxycodone, a conspiracy to launder money, possessing firearms in furtherance of drug trafficking crimes, and other firearms violations...

...As of today, all of the individuals named in the indictment are in custody. A trial date is expected to be set at a hearing in U.S. District Court on November 1, 2011.

The indictment is the result of a joint investigation between the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation and Federal Bureau of Investigation. The Tennessee Fourth Judicial Drug Task Force, Hamblen County Sheriff’s Office, Tennessee Fifth Judicial Drug Task Force, Blount County Sheriff’s Office, Tennessee Highway Patrol, Morristown HIDTA office, and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives also provided invaluable assistance during the course of the investigation.

Members of the public are reminded that an indictment constitutes only charges and that every person is presumed innocent until their guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.


Source: Department of Justice, United States Attorney William C. Killian Eastern District of Tennessee
 
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