Fu***** smoking a$$ pool halls

Anyone remember when you could smoke just about anywhere?
In the grocery store,bank,Government buildings,,,just about anywhere!!

Smoker or non-smoker should be able to agree on a few points. Taking it out of some places is understandable. But to make it illegal in others is just wrong.

Seems it is banned just about everywhere,but yet some non smokers are still going to these few unbanned places and complaining about it on a public forum.
A privately owned business,,,and wa wa wa,,,it's smoky in there!!!

Come to my house(that I paid for) and I will light up 3 cigs at a time ,,,,it will burn my eyes too,,but I would do it just for you.

Would you leave and complain how this needs to be stopped??? I say that as a joke,,but it may not be too far from it!!!
 
Smokers want to smoke and non-smokers don't want to be around that smoke. And we all want to play pool together. Instead of arguing about smoke free laws we could implement proper ventilation legislation.

A business should be able to cater to both sides with an air quality standard where non-smokers would not be affected by second hand smoke. Monitoring these levels would be paid for by fines for inspection failures similar to construction or health inspection failures.

An area could also be set aside for non-smoking customers to alleviate direct contact concerns. Casinos are doing this currently and attract more customers.

I was a smoker for about ten years and I understand the reasons why people smoke. It's their choice and should be respected. By the same token, a non-smoker should not have to be forced to breathe in the second hand smoke. We can meet in the middle with forced or voluntary regulation. We can go smoke free or follow cleaner air guidelines. If the business wants to allow smoking then let it happen.

We need to come up with a solution or all states will eventually go non-smoking. The fat cats on Capitol Hill are being juiced by the insurance lobby so we don't stand a chance of getting what we want. Seat belts, helmets, and everything else we do in life is controlled by insurance regs. Let's beat them to the punch this time.

Best,
Mike
 
That there looks like a soldier cemetery. I'm sure most smoked as we had cigs in our c-rations.

CocoboloCowboy said:
Lots of those who BREATHED Second Hand SMOKE wind up here!
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Ha, three smokes at a time... Kill yourself even faster then. That is smart.:thumbup:

But you are correct, it is your house and you can do as you choose in your house.
But the last time I checked, most public places are not your house. So that means you should take that filthy habit outdoors with your stanky ass.
 
Fenwick said:
That there looks like a soldier cemetery. I'm sure most smoked as we had cigs in our c-rations.
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Very true

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The Chinchilla said:
Because he isn't. Those drunk aholes aren't causing anybody any physical harm. If they do, then they are punished, correct??

Lets just skip all that actually, i'll just give everybody the arguments up to this point. Here is my new question (i'll try and be more tactful from here on out)................

Smoking in public IS legal, BUT, why do you feel like it is ok to smoke around people in public (like a park for example)??? I feel like a normal human should be cowering around, asking people if the cig is bugging others when smoking... but this hardly ever happens. Again, the question is, why do you just feel it is ok to smoke in the vicinity of lets say a 2 year old in a park? Why?? Do you assume people don't mind it.... you don't care? What are the various answers?
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From what I'm reading on AZB, "don't care" is the correct answer... :cool:
 
Drinkers don't hurt people around them?

It's amazing what statements people will make in defense of their own vices.
 
One of the chemicals on the list, ammonia, helps convert bound nicotine molecules in tobacco smoke into free nicotine molecules. This process is known as freebasing which enhances the effect of the nicotine on the smoker

A list of 599 cigarette additives, created by five major American cigarette companies, were approved by the Department of Health and Human Services in April 1994. None of these additives are listed as ingredients on the cigarette pack(s). Chemicals are added for organoleptic purposes and many boost the addictive properties of cigarettes, especially when burned. So, according to the Gov its ok to suck all this into our bodies...basically saying "Smoke up Johnny!!!" That way we dont have to pay u SS because you'll already be dead!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Thier laughing at you people
 
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bankshotbo said:
Ha, three smokes at a time... Kill yourself even faster then. That is smart.:thumbup:

But you are correct, it is your house and you can do as you choose in your house.
But the last time I checked, most public places are not your house. So that means you should take that filthy habit outdoors with your stanky ass.
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LOL. Yep,,I agree ,,there are already many public places,,even outside that cannot smoke.
There's no end to all this,,could go on fore ever with valid points from each side.

Like others have said.

Ventilation would be a great thing for ALL. E- cigs aren't bad either.
 
Here in CT, and I'm guessing many other places, too, the unions representing casino workers have been making lots of noise over their members being subjected to 2nd hand smoke. As we all have come to know, smoking bans in certain establishments can be bad for biz. But does it have to be?

Tough for casinos because they don't want their customers wandering away from the gaming to a designated smoking area. But for pool halls, it seems like there can and should be a reasonable solution. If you don't have a really good ventilation system, then ask those who wish to smoke step outside to have their smokes.

I agree with Hu, and many others on this topic.

And the exact quote, very appropriately is: "Your rights end where my nose begins."

Best,
Brian kc
 
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JB Cases said:
I wouldn't say that. It's that they don't yet consider it a problem. As to business rights I say that's a bit ridiculous.

Do you expect a restaurant to use safe food handling procedures? If so why?

We know that smoke is harmful. That's not in question. So why should anyone who walks into a business be subject to poisonous air?

Restaurants don't have the right to poison you so why should any other business?

And back to China, what's actually hilarious is that in Xiamen where I live it is illegal to smoke on the street but legal to smoke in restaurants, pool rooms, and well any enclosed space.

Someone else mentioned that some smokers (I bet much more than some) don't even smoke inside their own houses. They go outside to do it so that it doesn't stay in the house. But in a public setting they have no problem contributing to the smoky air.

I wonder what would happen if business owners were given a choice. Put up one of two signs on the front door. 1. No Smoking Inside - Clean Air Here. and 2. Smoking Allowed - Poisoned Air Here.

So no ban, just those two signs.

How would that go over?

As for smoking itself I subscribe to the witch's creed: Do what you want and harm none. So if you want to fill your lungs with poison go right ahead. Just don't share it with me. I don't force you to eat my Big Macs so I will will keep my poison to myself and you do the same.

Since we all have to breath the same air I suggest that all businesses which want to have smoking make themselves into private clubs and make any employees sign contracts that indemnify you from being sued for endangering the health of the employees.
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Good post!!!!
 
You can open an abortion clinic for killing babies,and you offer your customer the choice to enter or not.they kill 1 million plus every year.90% of their patrons are non smokers.the ability to make a choice is still there.they need to make a law that you have to walk through a smoking poolroom or a bar to get to the abortion clinic.that will really help to save some lives.

bill
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
Here in CT, and I'm guessing many other places, too, the unions representing casino workers have been making lots of noise over their members being subjected to 2nd hand smoke. As we all have come to know, smoking bans in certain establishments can be bad for biz. But does it have to be?

Tough for casinos because they don't want their customers wandering away from the gaming to a designated smoking area. But for pool halls, it seems like there can and should be a reasonable solution. If you don't have a really good ventilation system, then ask those who wish to smoke step outside to have their smokes.

I agree with Hu, and many others on this topic.

And the exact quote, very appropriately is: "Your rights end where my nose begins."

Best,
Brian kc
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The Casino management should take a trip to Canada. The no smoking Casino's I've been to in Canada seem to be busier than Detroit smoking casinos.
 
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