What happened to the old cue gallery

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JoeyInCali said:
I just have to ask.
What's preventing some to post their newest best hitting and looking cues here then putting it on sale the week after ?
A new SW and PFD iirc.
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Wow, that is a great idea....... so i post my cue on the gallery, screaming about how its the best player ever made....and everything else is junk compared to this one. And I could possibly be talked out of keeping it. and then it mysteriusly shows up for sale 2 days later....

thats a great NEW idea. Hmmm I think I might try that one

NOT
 
cueman said:
There actually is a place specifically for AZ cuemakers to post pictures of their work and yet it is rarely used. It is a sticky at the top of this forum. I rarely post anything I built in the main part of the forum, but I have posted several cues in that sticky thread.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=73064
Sticky: Az Members who build their own cues please post photo's of your new and old work!!!!
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Yes Sir, I started that thread back in 2007 and for awhile it was used for that purpose. But, it seems that it isn't really used much these days, but who knows maybe things will come full circle and people will start using it again.
 
scdiveteam said:
Joey,

You have a current post showing 4 plain Jane cues that has over 4000 visitors and most of them well wishers of appreciation. Pretty impressive attention to Joey cues.

My point is I have visited that thread 20 times to watch the progression of the builds. I posted several times in a positive way to bump your thread and it was my true feelings. I am very supportive of all cue makers here and I have never posted a negative word about anyone unless they attacked me directly or by obvious sarcastic overt innuendo as was the case with Steve. If you don't like me, ignore me or let me know. Direct communication always leads to understanding.

If I had a bitter enemy and I knew he was walking into a dark alley with an open manhole it would be my job to warn him. Not rationalize that his injury after the fact was somehow not my fault. My point is there is no need for bantering or one upsmanship between cue makers. We should all stick together and not criticize or try to be clever to make negative statements. Anyone who does not protect their own reputation with rebuttal is walking willfully into the manhole that someone has opened.

My mom always told me, if you don't have something to say positively about someone, say nothing. I have always tried to heed her advice and anytime that I have failed to follow the golden rule I will be the first to admit that I was acting improperly. The only way to fix it is to apologize and hope for forgiveness.

Rick
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Difference is they are not for sale.
And that thread is my thread.
Not in Ask The Cuemaker's thread.
If I posted pictures after pictures in The Ask The Cuemakers thread, I'm pretty sure I'd get called on it.
Again, I was speaking technically.
You said they are free not to click your post.
They really don't have that freedom when they open the page.
But, they do in your own thread. They can just not open it if they choose to.
 
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tikkler said:
Wow, that is a great idea....... so i post my cue on the gallery, screaming about how its the best player ever made....and everything else is junk compared to this one. And I could possibly be talked out of keeping it. and then it mysteriusly shows up for sale 2 days later....

thats a great NEW idea. Hmmm I think I might try that one

NOT
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It's happened here a few times now I think.
And they were called on it.
One guy waited 10 years for a SW and put it on sale within hours of displaying here.
He had a good reason though. His wife told him to.
 
Going back to the original question of this thread, finding the answer is easy...
Just look at the main Cue and Case Gallery views and replies. You get 500 views and 10 people respond. Who would care about taking the time to show people cues if they don't appreciate and acknowledge seeing them......
The only time I see a lot of responses 99% of the time it is a negative thread...
 
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flyvirginiaguy said:
Going back to the original question of this thread, finding the answer is easy...
Just look at the main Cue and Case Gallery views and replies. You get 500 views and 10 people respond. Who would care about taking the time to show people cues if they don't appreciate and acknowledge seeing them......
The only time I see a lot of responses 99% of the time it is a negative thread...
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I hate the fact that this is exactly what I am thinking. And this thread helps prove it.
 
flyvirginiaguy said:
Going back to the original question of this thread, finding the answer is easy...
Just look at the main Cue and Case Gallery views and replies. You get 500 views and 10 people respond. Who would care about taking the time to show people cues if they don't appreciate and acknowledge seeing them......
The only time I see a lot of responses 99% of the time it is a negative thread...
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You sir are 100% correct. I cannot point fingers, either. I participate, and have even been the subject of a couple.
 
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JoeyInCali said:
Difference is they are not for sale.
And that thread is my thread.
Not in Ask The Cuemaker's thread.
If I posted pictures after pictures in The Ask The Cuemakers thread, I'm pretty sure I'd get called on it.
Again, I was speaking technically.
You said they are free not to click your post.
They really don't have that freedom when they open the page.
But, they do in your own thread. They can just not open it if they choose to.
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Joe,

Sorry if I have contributed to your carpel tunnel sydrome by making you scroll past a few extra screens. :duck: I do see your point, but posting pics that are relevant to the OPs thread is adding to the info that is being discussed. Pictures speak a 1000 words. If the rules say don't post pictures on someone's thread, I would comply.

It is like playing nine ball with someone and they get mad about you playing a safety. Play by the rules.

Back to the thread at hand. I posted a link twice on this thread that is an open letter that I wrote to Mr. Wilson where I anticipated the very fact or basis of Steve's point. I did this back in January. I now then suggested that someone starts a poll so we can vote for a Cue Makers Showcase Galley not a sticky thread as Chris Hightower has pointed out exists. Now Eric is accusing me of pissing off collectors when I gave an intelligent answer to the question the OP brought up. It seems to me that most people are reactive and participative in pathos without reading the previous posts mostly because of name calling and the side show.

I guess I will take the ball and figure out how to do a polling thread and we can all vote so everyone is happy. That makes sense.

Rick
 
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tikkler said:
I sure hope more folks start posting there new cues again....soon. I have a whole bunch of brand new high end bueties coming, and I am wondering if I should show them on here
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:eek: You better!!!!!! Why else would I come to the Cue&Case Gallery??:smile:

Todd
 
flyvirginiaguy said:
Going back to the original question of this thread, finding the answer is easy...
Just look at the main Cue and Case Gallery views and replies. You get 500 views and 10 people respond. Who would care about taking the time to show people cues if they don't appreciate and acknowledge seeing them......
The only time I see a lot of responses 99% of the time it is a negative thread...
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Yup.

Thanks

Kevin
 
I think every cue maker should start their own thread showcasing what they build . The Jeff Olney thread is a great example of this. I check it frequently to see the latest creations. Jeffs thread has a great positive feel to it and has many views. It also helps consolidate a makers work into one area so that when I want to order a cue I can look back a pictures and say I want wood like the cue in post # , rings like the cue in post #, And a wrap like on post #.

JMO.
 
Another idea for the people with large collections such as Steves would be to have section such as a collectors showcase. Each collector could post his latest cue as they get them.

We have several large collectors that post here and it could be really great. I would say to keep the thread pretty only collectors with 12+ cues in this section.

If we could get guys like

Steve
Will Prout
Stan Haines
Mars man
and the many others that I am forgetting to post, it would be fantastic.
 
lenoxmjs said:
I think every cue maker should start their own thread showcasing what they build . The Jeff Olney thread is a great example of this. I check it frequently to see the latest creations. Jeffs thread has a great positive feel to it and has many views. It also helps consolidate a makers work into one area so that when I want to order a cue I can look back a pictures and say I want wood like the cue in post # , rings like the cue in post #, And a wrap like on post #.

JMO.
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Hi,

That is a good idea but I believe Jeff's thread is an aberration. I too go there all the time and Jeff has helped me solve a few problems I was encountering sometime ago. Very friendly guy and great workmanship.

The problem with a long thread IMO is that it does not end. Threads should have a beginning, life span and then fade away which is a natural progression.

It works very well in Jeff's case as he defined this usage.

Rick
 
As places become more popular, the general taste become watered down and popular and kind of average.

Used to be, I'd list a cue for sale, say a nice old Spain, and the thread would turn into a remembrance of Burton, with guys adding their memories or experiences with the maker or his product. Now there are so many guys needing the forum to list their Predator butt with a ding that there are rules against anybody saying anything or sharing. Christ, I'm selling Ernie Gutierrez's personal big ivory handle monster cue from 1960 and I can say "bump" every 2 days and guys are afraid to say anything for fear Bavafungu will report the thread for excessive bumping and I'll end up delated. Hey, I get it, stuff changes, but I can't help but feel the entire site has been "dumbed down" and I think that it what Steve is reacting to.

Thanks

Kevin
 
kvinbrwr said:
As places become more popular, the general taste become watered down and popular and kind of average.

Used to be, I'd list a cue for sale, say a nice old Spain, and the thread would turn into a remembrance of Burton, with guys adding their memories or experiences with the maker or his product. Now there are so many guys needing the forum to list their Predator butt with a ding that there are rules against anybody saying anything or sharing. Christ, I'm selling Ernie Gutierrez's personal big ivory handle monster cue from 1960 and I can say "bump" every 2 days and guys are afraid to say anything for fear Bavafungu will report the thread for excessive bumping and I'll end up delated. Hey, I get it, stuff changes, but I can't help but feel the entire site has been "dumbed down" and I think that it what Steve is reacting to.

Thanks

Kevin
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I would agree. This used to be a site for pretty much high end custom cues. Now you have all the production stuff watering things down. Since everyone else is being politically correct I'll say it to all those reading. Nobody gives two craps about production stuff here . I think at the very least it should be put in its own section . I also am not a huge fan of I want to trade my (insert non- pool related item here) for a Szam, Gina or whatever
 
scdiveteam said:
Hi,

That is a good idea but I believe Jeff's thread is an aberration. I too go there all the time and Jeff has helped me solve a few problems I was encountering sometime ago. Very friendly guy and great workmanship.

The problem with a long thread IMO is that it does not end. Threads should have a beginning, life span and then fade away which is a natural progression.

It works very well in Jeff's case as he defined this usage.

Rick
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I guess that's where we differ. I think the long thread is great. It shows me where the maker started and how far they have come.

I really like seeing cuemakers older stuff vs their newer stuff. I'll use Ron Haley as an example . Look at the cue in the wanted for sale right now that was made in 1997 . Rounded inlays not a very exciting cue. Fast forward 15years . Sharp points and corners on everything, beautiful flowing artistic color and inlay layouts, Mitered boxes so tight that you can barely see the joint with a jewelers glass. It's cool see where we've been and how far we have come.
 
lenoxmjs said:
I guess that's where we differ. I think the long thread is great. It shows me where the maker started and how far they have come.

I really like seeing cuemakers older stuff vs their newer stuff. I'll use Ron Haley as an example . Look at the cue in the wanted for sale right now that was made in 1997 . Rounded inlays not a very exciting cue. Fast forward 15years . Sharp points and corners on everything, beautiful flowing artistic color and inlay layouts, Mitered boxes so tight that you can barely see the joint with a jewelers glass. It's cool see where we've been and how far we have come.
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I agree. Jeff's thread is a wonderful template for others to follow. Good idea.
 
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