race to 25 2 out of 3 sets

Or combine Glenn's idea of a 'knockout' lead with declaration of a 'draw' if the difference isn't greater than a certain number of games by a specified game number.
 
I say keep the format as is, or at least something close.

It's a lot easier for me to justify, dedicating 5 hours or so a day for an entire weekend to watch, as opposed to the whole weekend itself (as in a race to 100)...especially, when it's usually apparent after the first day who is going to win.

99 times out of a 100 the better player "that weekend" is going to win 3 separate races to 25 spread over 3 days. The sets are long enough to even out the roll's, but short enough to allow for nice comebacks.

As an aside, since Bartrum thinks that these races are to short and that they allow for an underdog to win, I say let's prove it...throw him in the ring against any or all of these guys (Archer,SVB, Alex, Bustamante, etc.) in this format and let's see who wins.

I'm sure he's not scared, and I'd definitely pay to see it!

Either way...thanks for all of the hard work!

i said this format is fine.
but its not a good format to see who is the best player
thats all i was saying in this thread.
im not a big enough name to be in this tar thing.
they need to keep the top guys in there to sell ppv.
 
I blew that match but I was never stuck 20 games.

Sorry about including you in that line up Donny...being old kind of makes it hard to remember everything ya know:thumbup:...as I recall now...you did put up one hell of a fight with Shane...and now that I think about it...you were the only player that would have escaped the knockout...LOL

Glen
 
35tdoj.jpg

How cool would it be cleary....if we did lunch together someday...I'm in your area right now, how about tomorrow?...I'm sure we could find something to talk about:grin:
 
Well then, call me so we can make arraignments to hook up, 702-927-5689

Glen

Just meet me in Brooklyn. Johnny's pizza, 436 New Lots Avenue. It's a beautiful part of brooklyn called East New York. I'll be there at 1pm, see ya then bud!
 
I blew that match but I was never stuck 20 games.

Donny, question for you buddy. If a 20 game lead would have given you an automatic win early in the match...knowing now what you didn't know back then...would you have tried to play even harder to go for the knockout as quick as you could have over Shane...rather than go the distance to 100? I know from my playing years that sometimes you just get on a roll and can't seem to miss anything and can really string some racks together....but even then, sooner or later you fall out of that Zone. So my question is just that...while in that "zone"...would you have given the option...focused all efforts to gain that lead to win the match?

Glen
 
While you're in town, could you convert my dinning room table into a 5 pocket diamond? Pro cut, of course.

If you want a real pool table, instead of trying to make a dinning room table into one....I can help you get a real DIAMOND pool table, it's only about $6,000 delivered and set up....which would cost less than what you'd have to pay to fix that dinning room table up;)

PS. I have a Diamond with just the two foot corner pockets....will that do?
 
If you want a real pool table, instead of trying to make a dinning room table into one....I can help you get a real DIAMOND pool table, it's only about $6,000 delivered and set up....which would cost less than what you'd have to pay to fix that dinning room table up;)

PS. I have a Diamond with just the two foot corner pockets....will that do?

No, I was hoping to get this
b1597.jpg

to play like a diamond.
 
No, I was hoping to get this
b1597.jpg

to play like a diamond.

For $4,995 I can make that play just like a Diamond 7ft ProAm, and not only play like one, it'll even LOOK just like one...and you can still eat off of it if you'd like;)...what color of cloth do you want?
 
It would not surprise me one bit because these two guys and others tried to form an association boycotting the US Open.

Let's just say that there were some multiple bets made by various people and depending if the money was laid on Shane or JA that they could possibly throw the match. I mean they didn't invest a dime into this match.

Split the 4k...2k a piece for being there and split whatever money that bookies were raking in.

Didn't someone mentioned that the final score was actually tied with all sets combined?

I wonder if pool is sanctioned or commissioned by any governing body to monitor these matters. Heck, all major sports monitor these activities.

AZ members were betting hundreds of dollars who's to say there wasn't thousands of dollars floating around while this match was going on.

I can assure many members on AZ, myself included, would act together if bigger opportunities came knocking. It's just the nature of the beast with this game. Pool players have always been a tight knit, they get closer as you rank up higher. It's how it is at pool rooms, the good players hang with the good players and the decent hangs with the decent.

These guys are a selective few who are the top dogs...the 1 percent. Why not eat...got nothing to lose in these TAR matches. These matches are just exhibitions anyways....it's not like it's going to be on their resume, that they lost or beat Player A.

When you look at these guys' resumes...major tournaments are listed and not an exhibition match.

You really have no idea what in the hell you are talking about do you?

You are the guy who doesnt know who 90% of the pros are and now you know how their minds work? How long have you known Shane and Johnny personally? What basis do you have to say they would do anything like what you suggest ?

Here is a clue dipshit....both of these guys HATE to lose. This was a big deal for Johnny because he knew lots of people are watching. Its not a race to 9 where if he gets smoked its just a bad day at the office. This was his chance to show everyone he still has it and he did. Same goes for Shane. He wanted to prove he is the best American. Its called pride jackwagon.

Simple answer is you dont know anything and are talking straight out of your ass.
 
i said this format is fine.
but its not a good format to see who is the best player
thats all i was saying in this thread.
im not a big enough name to be in this tar thing.
they need to keep the top guys in there to sell ppv.

I'd pay to watch you play and so would many others. Even if your top gear isn't quite as high as some other guys, you're a just as good a gambler - and sometimes better.
 
For the viewer, the new best of 3 format is much better than (1) race to 100. But I actually think it would be far more exciting to have a best of 9 format. Each day could be (3) races to 8 or 9.

What is the down side to a best of 9 format over 3 days?
 
Last edited:
I just want to extend a big thank you to Justin, Mark and everyone behind the scenes that make these matches possible.

TAR 26 was exciting and fun start to finish. I couldn't ask for anything more

Both players gave their all EVERY game and it was obvious Shane and Johnny both wanted the win.
(Makes me wonder if these conspiracy theorists even watched the match.)
I find it insulting to read accusations to the contrary.

Also unlike some of the other matches I've watched the participants were professionals throughout. I want to thank Shane and Johnny for that.


Oh, and thanks for the great podcasts. I enjoyed them also.
Very nice to hear Johnny talk about all that's been going on from his personal standpoint.
 
Am I the only one who thinks best of 9 sets with short races over 3 days would be a good format?

Please see post #196.

What am I missing..?

Thanks in advance..
 
Last edited:
Am I the only one who thinks best of 9 sets with short races over 3 days would be a good format?

Please see post #196.

What am I missing..?

Thanks in advance..

The main problem (which is what started this thread) is that 3 sets of 25 is effectively a shorter race than the old format, and it increases the chances of an underdog winning. Luck evens out over long races, but plays a big role in short races.

Sets to 25 are reasonable, but if you shorten the race much further, then it starts to look more and more like a coin flip. We still want the best player to come out on top.
 
Back
Top