Are The Bonus Ball Players Under Contract?

Fatboy said:
Lou,

with all due respect I dont think there are enough pool players or hardcore fans left in pool to make a difference, cant even get 1000 viewers on a free stream, thats only 20 people per state. How sad is that? Pool is just to small to matter, it has to reach out to people who dont know what a cue is to work. I think thats too tall of a order.
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Oh, I totally get that, Eric. But you have to think about it like having a short stack -- you don't automatically flush it down the toilet. For some reason all this reminds me of a quick story.

I drove up to Tahoe many years ago from San Francisco, in the middle of the night, in the snow, with my wingman, Jerry. We pulled into the parking lot of Harrahs at 730 in the morning and we were both busted by 8. We lasted exactly half an hour. So we're walking back to the parking lot and Jerry stops in the middle of the sidewalk and goes, "Look! I found a quarter in my pocket." And he just rears back and with all his strength flings it into the sky and says, "OK, now we're really busted."

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
Oh, I totally get that, Eric. But you have to think about it like having a short stack -- you don't automatically flush it down the toilet. For some reason all this reminds me of a quick story.

I drove up to Tahoe many years ago from San Francisco, in the middle of the night, in the snow, with my wingman, Jerry. We pulled into the parking lot of Harrahs at 730 in the morning and we were both busted by 8. We lasted exactly half an hour. So we're walking back to the parking lot and Jerry stops in the middle of the sidewalk and goes, "Look! I found a quarter in my pocket." And he just rears back and with all his strength flings it into the sky and says, "OK, now we're really busted."

Lou Figueroa
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i might have been there that night-I spent lots of time at Harrahs from 89-91 with a friend who was a degenerate 21 player, it was fun for sure.



At the end of the day I hope BB works, its the brightest spot in pool right now. Its not predicated on internet gambling like the IPT was, I dont know what its predicated on, but I have watched this thing for almost 3 years come to life and they have put blood sweat and tears into it not to mention the $$$, I wish Larry, Barry and Co the best and of course the players.
 
Fatboy said:
i might have been there that night-I spent lots of time at Harrahs from 89-91 with a friend who was a degenerate 21 player, it was fun for sure.



At the end of the day I hope BB works, its the brightest spot in pool right now. Its not predicated on internet gambling like the IPT was, I dont know what its predicated on, but I have watched this thing for almost 3 years come to life and they have put blood sweat and tears into it not to mention the $$$, I wish Larry, Barry and Co the best and of course the players.
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I wish them the best too.

Lou Figueroa
 
Fatboy said:
I agree, since everyone is scared to bet in the pool rooms we might as well fight here!!!!! we all cant be as lucky as the Englishmen:p
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We could even find a way to sweat the fight threads. It could save pool.
 
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What needs to be done is contact all league operators of all leagues, and get this streamed in the busiest pool halls and bars, on the busiest league nights. People act like if it's publicized an AZ everyone knows but the truth is I played in the largest APA league in the country and you could probably count the number of players on one hand who know about AZ. The amateur leagues should be the target audience and the marketing should be aggressive.
 
dorabelle said:
I think AZ needs a no holds barred fight thread.
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I like it... But I don't think many would like it if those of us that "keep it real" while being pc, dropped the pc and rilly kept it real. Many would love it though... I would definitely slack off from work to tee off on a few people. Haaahaaa
 
The Saw said:
I like it... But I don't think many would like it if those of us that "keep it real" while being pc, dropped the pc and rilly kept it real. Many would love it though... I would definitely slack off from work to tee off on a few people. Haaahaaa
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That's the Beauty of it, they can stay away from it. It'll keep the other threads clean.
 
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jay helfert said:
I'm starting my own team and Fu...ey on all of you...ey! :p
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Get'em Jay!!!!!!

hope your good buddy,

Dinner is on me, remember that real nice joint we went to that time, lets hit that again, i havent been there since we went like 2 years ago
 
cookie man said:
What needs to be done is contact all league operators of all leagues, and get this streamed in the busiest pool halls and bars, on the busiest league nights. People act like if it's publicized an AZ everyone knows but the truth is I played in the largest APA league in the country and you could probably count the number of players on one hand who know about AZ. The amateur leagues should be the target audience and the marketing should be aggressive.
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What cookie said! Most of the league players don't have a clue who the pros are much less the game. Stream it. Have fun "teaching" tourneys for the players. Give away free table time or food coupons for the winners. Something simple! Play the six pocket version. Lots of ways to promote it on the local level.

Just my attempt to get this drama laden thread back on topic. :rolleyes:
 
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WOW - did this ever goet off track!

(Look what happens when I don't pay attention - LOL)

I think everyone wants Bonus Ball to do good.
It would be good for pool.

All I know is that I had posted a thread way back on page #2 - just saying it would be nice if the management of BB would let people know if and when any more delays are caused. That way some mutual respect can be shown between all aspects of pool, and other events can be scheduled around them.

And then it all went KABOOM!!!!!

I did not expect the level of animosity that I have seen here.
A lot of interesting viewpoints for sure - but still all I want is some level of communication between various interests - after all we are all about pool!!

I am still saying the same thing - and hopefully everything will work out for everyone.

Mark Griffin
 
lfigueroa said:
No, this is wrong on several levels. Here's two: first off they need the hard core fan base, which would be us, and by extension, our fellow pool players whom we interact with at the pool hall and leagues, but who may not participate in online discussions. Think of us, if you will, as potential ambassadors of all things pool. At the minimum, because we are online, we are also the prime and logical potential PPV audience.

Second, anyone who had thought this halfway through would know that in the event sponsors, TV, or other parties take more than a passing interest in this endeavor they're going to do their due diligence and see what the hard core fan base thinks of the whole idea. And where do you think they're going to look to take the temperature? That's right -- they're going to look right here. And that's why it would have been a good idea to have developed and carefully executed a PR plan to win us all over right from the git-go. That's just being smart.

But somewhat obviously, that's not what's happening.

Lou Figueroa
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Actually no, they don't need the hard-core fan base. They need viewers and many more than the billiard industry can provide.

AZ has a certain amount of reach but not nearly as much as some people on AZ think it does.

But I do fully agree that it would have been smarter to do some public relations work to get the hard-core behind the project. I happen to think that this game has some potential and I am not generally a fan of "new" games. But this is a true skill game and the pro-version with three pockets is a tough game. The regular version is tough as well but the pro-version really brings a lot of one pocket into it.

So it would have been better to spend some time getting people acclimated with Bonus Ball beforehand and to get them on board. Spend a little money holding $500 added Bonus Ball tournaments across the country and get the amateurs into it so that they know the game before it ever shows up professionally.

I believe such a grassroots strategy would have paid nice dividends. But at the end of the day the success of BB doesn't depend on us any more than the success of 9 Ball, One Pocket, 10 Ball etc has depended. If the "support" of the die hard fans is anything to go by then BB has no chance considering where pool is with the known games.

When the IPT was airing I couldn't even get the pool rooms to turn it one when it aired. People wanted to watch other sports in the pool room other than pool. Now that said I have a TON of ideas how to make it interactive and get pool room owners and pool players interested but no one is asking me and experience has shown that once people have their own vision and plan they aren't much interested in trying anyone else's ideas.
 
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