Should the TAR table stay as is or go to standard pockets? You choose.

What size pockets should be on the TAR Table?

  • Keep the 4 1/8" pockets.

    Votes: 236 46.5%
  • Switch to standard Diamond 4 1/2" pockets.

    Votes: 271 53.5%

  • Total voters
    507
How is it entertaining to watch the shooter smack the rail 3 diamonds up and the ball still goes in? Who cares if he runs out? Do you think we didn't notice that he shot poorly?

Stop trying to ruin this thread. You've stated your opinion half a dozen times.

We get it, now let it go.
 
How is it entertaining to watch the shooter smack the rail 3 diamonds up and the ball still goes in? Who cares if he runs out? Do you think we didn't notice that he shot poorly?

You're out of line here. Please post a video of someone "smack the rail 3 diamonds up" and the ball still going in on a diamond table.
 
Thanks for all the input its great stuff.

A note on why we chose to go with tight pockets: It was because most players were asking for them and the set of Fatboys rails were in the warehouse. The table gained some notoriety so we had Diamond make the set on there now.

I have to say the poll results so far sure dont make it any easier as its a dead heat. Very interesting result so far and some great points made by both sides.
 
You can't disagree. Earl and Shane race to 100 on the 10' table was by far the best TAR match. No one can disagree. If they try to disagree, then they don't like pool.

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How is it entertaining to watch the shooter smack the rail 3 diamonds up and the ball still goes in? Who cares if he runs out? Do you think we didn't notice that he shot poorly?

I think that I can design the proper table to suite your preference. The table will be 100 feet long, and four feet wide. It will have only one corner pocket, which will be 3.5" wide and only one ball racked at the foot spot which will be in the center of the table, 2' from the foot rail. Each player will take ball in hand behind the headstring (the headstring will be 2' from the head rail). With this, we can completely eliminate pattern play and can only focus on shot execution.

Whaddya say?
 
I think that I can design the proper table to suite your preference. The table will be 100 feet long, and four feet wide. It will have only one corner pocket, which will be 3.5" wide and only one ball racked at the foot spot which will be in the center of the table, 2' from the foot rail. Each player will take ball in hand behind the headstring (the headstring will be 2' from the head rail). With this, we can completely eliminate pattern play and can only focus on shot execution.

Whaddya say?

This is too easy with BIH behind the headstring. Thousands of players in the USA could do it easily.
 
I've purchased 95% of all your PPV and think there's merit for both side of the argument. The tight pockets is one factor that makes your show different of the other 40 PPV or live streams I watch each year. I've seen 7 packs elswhere, I love to sweat the less predictable TAR challenges, love to think these guys are human and miss easy shot too, but realy nothing is easy on that table. Gaffy or not both players face the same conditions. I think back to the Morra Domingues match on 4" pockets, even though it looked brutal, it's because it was brutal, you had to be the best under those conditions to win, makes me appreciate these guys and their talent even more. Hope 4 1/8 stays.
 
We're in a heated battle going on a week or so. Nothing to see here:D

This should convey just exactly who he is messing with......

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If it were an option I'd go back to the old rails, assuming that was the difference between the six packs we saw before and last weekend's performance.

But I saw you're not fooling with pocket geometry and such so I went with 4½.

...it's still tighter than what you find in most pool halls, and will let the players relax a little bit and get into their highest gear instead of playing worry-worry-worry all the time.

A pro in his highest gear is a beautiful thing. As long as the races are long enough, the cream will still rise to the top. You don't need special built custom equipment to define who's a good pool player and who's not.
 
I've purchased 95% of all your PPV and think there's merit for both side of the argument. The tight pockets is one factor that makes your show different of the other 40 PPV or live streams I watch each year. I've seen 7 packs elswhere, I love to sweat the less predictable TAR challenges, love to think these guys are human and miss easy shot too, but realy nothing is easy on that table. Gaffy or not both players face the same conditions. I think back to the Morra Domingues match on 4" pockets, even though it looked brutal, it's because it was brutal, you had to be the best under those conditions to win, makes me appreciate these guys and their talent even more. Hope 4 1/8 stays.

That Morra/Oscar match was brutal for me. That table is over the top. I think the one we have now is right on the line. Its not gaffy but its hard enough to make guys change the way they play and I am not sure how I feel about that.
 
The truth is - I don't know what I want anymore. I can complain about either and I can make a case for either.

Here's a couple of random thoughts though:

1. Here's a little pointer for all those guys that always complain about someone who hits a ball a diamond up on the side rail only to watch it fall --- Get Over It Already! This has been a part of the game since the very beginning. Pool is not snooker and turning it into snooker is probably not in anyone's best interest.

2. This constant drum beat I hear about tight pockets is driving me crazy. It's gotten to the point where guys that can't run 10 balls HAVE to play on tight equipment. What's that all about??? If Mosconi could do an exhibition on an 8 foot table with 5 inch pockets, I think you'll be okay playing a 3 hour 9 ball race to 5 on less than tight pockets.

3. As far as the TAR table is concerned, it looks like 4.25 may be the right size (although that's not an option). I'm not sure what happened this past weekend. I would have thought that the table would have played easier since the cloth was just replaced, but it appeared to play harder. Not sure what's going on there?

4. What the heck, I'm going with 4.5. I would really like to see what can really be done on a standard 4.5 inch pocketed table. We rarely have the oppurtunity to see long races on a standard Diamond table, usually all we get to see is a race to 9. Everybody acts like sets are ran out all the time, but I haven't really seen it. So, until someone runs out a set 25-0 I'm voting for 4.5. At least until Celtic comes along and posts something, at that point, I'm going to switch back to wanting the tighter equipment.
 
That Morra/Oscar match was brutal for me. That table is over the top. I think the one we have now is right on the line. Its not gaffy but its hard enough to make guys change the way they play and I am not sure how I feel about that.

I think I found a way to make everyone happy. Leave the pockets the way they are, and just get some smaller pool balls. It will be cheaper too.
 
You can't disagree. Earl and Shane race to 100 on the 10' table was by far the best TAR match. No one can disagree. If they try to disagree, then they don't like pool.

Good to know that a 10 gaff, POS, is what you consider good equipment. Your ignorance is astounding.

I LOVE to golf. I've only been playing a couple years. When people that have been playing for 10,20,30+ years start talking, I STFU and listen. I try to learn something every time. When they start talking about the finer aspects of swing, shot selection, types of clubs, etc I pay attention, sometimes even take notes.

Maybe you should try this. You're not making any friends. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, but you continue to be ignorant and stubborn.

You can learn a lot, and grow valuable relationships here with people that LOVE pool. A lot of them have spent their entire lives around it, and have more to offer in 20 minutes than you do in 2 months. If you read half as much as you post, you would grow your game ten times faster than you are now.

Please Stop Trolling!!!!!

best,

Justin
 
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