Frost vs Alex - 1 Pocket Match on Monday for $40,000
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I think you're right. That does ring a bell. He was very generous to Keith during this tournament, rooting for him on the rail, et cetera. I enjoyed his company.
Egad... Unfortunately, I had my stories mixed up. This is the story I was thinking of... and it was Frost who was playing Fusco. But Keith had a part in the story. In fact, it was a Keith story:
My apologies:
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This is why... the action room:
Here's one story from the past:
I was in Derby City a couple of years ago when Keith was playing Sparky all week. At one point, they had left their table for a break, and some other game (Frost and Jimmy Fusco, 5-ahead, 5 large) started up on it. When Keith came back, he wanted "his" table back. They wouldn't give it back, so Keith says, "well, I'm taking my cueball" which apparently must have been a red circle or something special.
I know Frost and Fusco were pissed (I think they were in the middle of a game at the time), but it was too comical for either to get too mad. There were no tables left in the practice room, so Keith literally with ball in hand marched into the tournament room. Now there was still a tournament going on, but he walked right through everything to the Chapel area ( a small side room that looks like a Chapel) that had tables in it.
So, the picture is this:
Keith McCready, with the ball, dressed only in a worn out and grungy golf-style shirt with a few cigarette holes, some old gym shorts from the 70's, and dirty white socks. No shoes. And his skinny legs were in dire need of covering. As he walked, the socks were slipping off as socks do, so the toe ends were just flapping away in a clown-like fashion as he strutted through the tournament arena with ball in hand. There were probably 3 dozen people following him in a mock Pied Piper fashion all the way until he found an empty table in the Chapel. Fusco was one of them trying to get the ball back!!! All the while, McCready was just a yapping away.
"C'mon Sparky! Let's play."
And they played.
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Mea culpa
Freddie <~~~ can't keep anything straight
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Keith McCready
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I do remember that, Freddie. All the cueballs were getting beat up and caked with chalk. Some of them seem like they warped. But this particular cueball was a good one, and I wasn't going to give it up to Frost. I think I was mad at him about something, so I just stuck it in my pocket. He wasn't getting my cueball to play anybody. I mean, technically, it wasn't mine, but I made it mine.
About the money amounts, it is okay to say there is a total of 40, 20 apiece, but to advertise it as 40, some people might think they're betting 40 each. A better way to phrase it might be to say that it's 40 guaranteed, and people can do the math from there.
In California, it's illegal to advertise a game like that. In the future, they should advertise it differently and maybe give 5 percent of the purse as a donation to a charity, if you get my drift. If I was fixing to play somebody for $50,000, I surely would not want the money amount that I was playing for addressed on this website.
What has been done is done, but it might be something to think about for the future money games. :smile:
Hey, maybe they can change it from "in the middle" to "on the lamp". :grin:
Apparently at that moment, Freddie's lamp was on but no one was home!
I thought they were betting 40 each due to the way it was listed. I guess I wasn't as confused as I thought...
JAM, that table sure looks like the identical "Fisher" I grew up playing on in the early 70's. It has the same round markings for each spot on rail and the plastic pockets look the same. The sheen of the finish even looks right. I have a hard time beleiving they wouldn't have a Brunswick though.
Does anybody know for sure, what kind of table it is? Maybe more picks....
Here's an interesting read about the pool table at the White House: White House Takes a Cue from Kansas.
You know, that's a great question, though, about the Fisher or Brunswick. I think I read they had four pool tables in all. George H.W. Bush had a pool table in what is today called the "Map Room" in the White House.
Here's one that is/was at Camp David below, but the new one that President Obama is shooting on looks newer.
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Go back to 1988. $ game between RA and Danny D. It was billed as a $20K Challenge Match. It was promoted that way. Both participants put in 10K apiece. Those on the inside knew the score. Whats the problem? You cant equate your $50 money game with the perogatives of a promoter. This is business.
Tell me if you get a salary of $75K a year but the feds take $16K and the State takes $4K. Do you go around saying I make $55K a year to prospective clients or lenders ? No you talk about gross not net. This is the basis of negotiating and business.
For me either way you want to call it. It was a beautiful exhibition by Alex and a lesson for Scott
I await for the rematch.
Tell me if you get a salary of $75K a year but the feds take $16K and the State takes $4K. Do you go around saying I make $55K a year to prospective clients or lenders ? No you talk about gross not net. This is the basis of negotiating and business.
For me either way you want to call it. It was a beautiful exhibition by Alex and a lesson for Scott
I await for the rematch.
Scott could have come out early and practiced on table 1 like Alex did with Shane over 2 days...great comeback by Alex. Table 6 is easier.
They should have a rematch at Scotts homeroom next.
That is a very good point. Ok here is my proposal.
If the match is promoted, with posters, tickets and the like then we use the in the middle amount. If it is regular heads up gambling we use the bet amount,
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I always refer to the amount I am actually betting..
If I am betting 1k I say we are betting 1k but if I win or lose I do say" That was a 2k swing" ha ha ...
If I am betting 1k I say we are betting 1k but if I win or lose I do say" That was a 2k swing" ha ha ...
I got a couple other DCC stories on this as well.
I think the first DCC year I attended, Monster John was getting on a game but the game fell through. John was pretty tall with long arms and he had already put the total post on the lights. When the game fell through, he went back and reached for the post, but the stack had fallen and he really couldn't reach it up there, so he stood on his tip-toes and blindly fished down the post. It sort of made you wonder if when he got it all (and he did ask out loud how much was supposed to be there), that maybe one president or two were still sitting up there. But who was going to stand on the table to look?
And another year in 2007 or 2008 I think, there was one set (was it Bartram, Orcullo, Shane????) where the post was on the lamp again.... 30 bags of sand including Benjamins AND Jacksons (I guess people really wanted to get in the middle) in all uneven stacks sitting all pretty. I took a photo, but I think someone had actually put a photo of it on the internet. I mean where else but the DCC do you find a post of 30 bags on the lamp???
Freddie <~~~ do you get me or am I wasting my ink?
Thanks Keith!!!I do remember that, Freddie. All the cueballs were getting beat up and caked with chalk. Some of them seem like they warped. But this particular cueball was a good one, and I wasn't going to give it up to Frost. I think I was mad at him about something, so I just stuck it in my pocket. He wasn't getting my cueball to play anybody. I mean, technically, it wasn't mine, but I made it mine.
About the money amounts, it is okay to say there is a total of 40, 20 apiece, but to advertise it as 40, some people might think they're betting 40 each. A better way to phrase it might be to say that it's 40 guaranteed, and people can do the math from there.
In California, it's illegal to advertise a game like that. In the future, they should advertise it differently and maybe give 5 percent of the purse as a donation to a charity, if you get my drift. If I was fixing to play somebody for $50,000, I surely would not want the money amount that I was playing for addressed on this website.
What has been done is done, but it might be something to think about for the future money games. :smile:
Freddie <~~~ lost a poker tournament on the first hand to Keith when he flopped top full house to my bottom full house.... Brrrrrrr... cold!
Man, if I lost 20k in 1P whether it was my money or someone else s I would be sick to my stomach.
But, someone has to win and someone has to lose.
John :smile:
But, someone has to win and someone has to lose.
John :smile:
