Gunshots in front of poolhall, Dallas, TX

I am glad to know that Hawley's is still there and that Walter is still around. Walter is one of my favorite people in the business. When we were there we were also treated well and enjoyed it very much.
 
I was gonna not say anything but I read Mr Wilson post.

Just for discussion, my ban was uncalled for. It appears that CJ can make abusive remarks about others and that was what his comment about Lou was, but when the same is returned to him, its a foul.

I'd like to know why CJ's comment about Lou was not abusive? It is not like it was the first time he has taken pot shots at Lou.

If you want people to learn from my example, best explain what the differences is that makes one comment more abusive than the other.
 
I was gonna not say anything but I read Mr Wilson post.

Just for discussion, my ban was uncalled for. It appears that CJ can make abusive remarks about others and that was what his comment about Lou was, but when the same is returned to him, its a foul.

I'd like to know why CJ's comment about Lou was not abusive? It is not like it was the first time he has taken pot shots at Lou.

If you want people to learn from my example, best explain what the differences is that makes one comment more abusive than the other.

I've made remarks to you previously. They were not enough that you took heed.
Maybe this is a warning you'll remember?

Just because one does something does not mean you may also.
I thought I just made it clear, if you wish to play with fire, you might just get burned.

Until such a time as the community feels that you are providing better content than CJ, if you attack him, I'll be waiting nearby.
 
I know most of the rooms you are talking about, and since the 90's most of them have either gone out of business, changed ownership & names, or the neighborhoods have totally gone to H#ll. Last I heard the Clicks on Skillman was still there but under a different name & ownership. There might still be a room or 2 on Greenville Ave., but again not the best of areas to be hanging out. Wizards in Richardson is about the only one I know of that is in a somewhat decent area, and it's more of a Sports bar than a Poolroom, even though it has Pool Tables.

In Arlington there's still Rusty's, but I don't really care for the neighborhood, but I wouldn't exactly call it a bad neighborhood either, there was a Clicks & a Speeds across the highway from 6 Flags, but I think I heard that the Clicks went out of business, don't know about the Speeds. You might ask CJ about rooms in the area since I think he's living somewhere around Arlington now.

As Fast Eddie told Vincent in The Color of Money - This used to be just your average Bad Neighborhood, Now Look at It.



Yeah i think Wizards is a different place now with furniture style tables . Most of the places i mentioned were where people played after work and casual players , believe CJ's and Clicks on Abrams were where serious pool was played , and i guess Wizards too .In 1980 i had a stereo put in my car at DalWorth car stereo , it was where Hawley's is today , i lived in some new apartments nearby.
 
hello the shooting i was their 20 ft.from man shot

was a tall blk male wearing a straw hat young shooter was a short blk male with a huge blk male and hot white girl/trashy girl and he didn't shoot directly at him he shot at ground rickashaed and hit man in spin hurling upward and when paramedics came he went into shock and passed out not sure of his status but i haven't seen him they arrested the two males and not the female wtf is what i said i watched it happen from the window i yelled at gilbert my bartender saying their was a fight the man owed the shooter 200 dollars and they were trying to get the money from him pushing him and messing with his car threatening him saying i have a strap 2 minutes later he was shot it was 9mm we found the casing many other have happened before this incident and they can happen anywhere anytime. i an one of the apa captains at hawleys i love the place and hang out with walter and my teammates often. hope you guys are happy now that you know as much as everyone else who was their.
 
with an influx of televised events and commercials.

That's the problem with most of Dallas's Poolhalls, most are located in somewhat of a bad neighborhood, yet for some of them, just a few blocks away there can be neighborhoods with million dollar homes.

Where CJ's Billiard Palace was located at the corner of E. Grand & Gaston was kind of like that. To the north there was white rock lake & the dallas arboretum, with some very nice homes for a few blocks. to the west, going back towards downtown on Gaston there were a few blocks of nice neighborhoods & even a country club, but if you went too far in either direction the neighborhoods got a little questionable. If you went South on E. Grand back towards Fair Park the neighborhoods were really bad. When CJ's first opened at that location it wasn't so bad, but as time went on the neighborhoods changed and it got a little bit rougher every year. CJ tried to adapt the room to meet the changes in the neighborhood & the clientele and was successful at it for awhile, but I think it finally just got so bad that CJ didn't want to deal with it anymore.

CJ's Billiard Palace was one of the most successful pool rooms in the country for a number of years. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, the area changed and it was very challenging to keep the "right" clientele.

I knew when I started recognizing all the different "gang signs" it was time to start looking for another location. I've recently started looking again between Dallas and Ft. Worth, it's about time for another CJ's to open up and promote pool like there's "no tomorrow".

I'm certain pool can become very popular again in the DFW area, especially with an influx of televised events and commercials.
 
Yeah, Walter's cool, I've know him for 15 years, and this could happen at any time, any place in Dallas.

I had someone shoot at one of my police officers one time, he ducked and the bullet came through one of my front plate glass windows and hit a picture of Minnesota Fats located above my bar.

I always wondered if that had any significance, I've still got the picture of "Fats" with the bullet hole in his head.

You should post a picture of that lol. I'd like to see it
 
I had someone shoot at one of my police officers one time, he ducked and the bullet came through one of my front plate glass windows and hit a picture of Minnesota Fats located above my bar.

:eek: They should catch the guy who took that shot and give him 20 years hard labor for hitting Fats ! :D
 
was a tall blk male wearing a straw hat young shooter was a short blk male with a huge blk male and hot white girl/trashy girl and he didn't shoot directly at him he shot at ground rickashaed and hit man in spin hurling upward and when paramedics came he went into shock and passed out not sure of his status but i haven't seen him they arrested the two males and not the female wtf is what i said i watched it happen from the window i yelled at gilbert my bartender saying their was a fight the man owed the shooter 200 dollars and they were trying to get the money from him pushing him and messing with his car threatening him saying i have a strap 2 minutes later he was shot it was 9mm we found the casing many other have happened before this incident and they can happen anywhere anytime. i an one of the apa captains at hawleys i love the place and hang out with walter and my teammates often. hope you guys are happy now that you know as much as everyone else who was their.

And the longest run on sentence of the year goes to....
 
was a tall blk male wearing a straw hat young shooter was a short blk male with a huge blk male and hot white girl/trashy girl and he didn't shoot directly at him he shot at ground rickashaed and hit man in spin hurling upward and when paramedics came he went into shock and passed out not sure of his status but i haven't seen him they arrested the two males and not the female wtf is what i said i watched it happen from the window i yelled at gilbert my bartender saying their was a fight the man owed the shooter 200 dollars and they were trying to get the money from him pushing him and messing with his car threatening him saying i have a strap 2 minutes later he was shot it was 9mm we found the casing many other have happened before this incident and they can happen anywhere anytime. i an one of the apa captains at hawleys i love the place and hang out with walter and my teammates often. hope you guys are happy now that you know as much as everyone else who was their.

Thanks for the first hand report. Scary shit being around such things.

I see that the shift and period keys were hit by the bullet, too.:thumbup:

Jeff Livingston
 
There is clearly a double standard in place. I guess pro players can do whatever they want with no repercussions, the rest of us better toe the line :rolleyes:

Wow! You spelled "toe the line" correctly. I had to look this up the other day, as I thought it was "tow the line," as in pulling something. I'm always learning something new every day. I never knew there was a "toe the line." :embarrassed2:

There's no double standard. Folks get irritated when a moderator tries to enforce a sense of calm on the forum. Some people spew words from their keyboards that are hurtful, causing anger, and by their own admission, they do "enjoy playing with their toys" on a forum. Others call it being "honest." I guess it depends on how you interpret it.

There are other forums on the Internet where anything goes. Remember RSB? ;)

I prefer to read good pool content. Every now and then, things can get unruly, but as long as it doesn't get personal, attacking with malice aforethought, I enjoy a good debate on topics. When people attack, claiming they are only being honest, playhng with their toys, et cetera, it's in bad taste; thus, why a moderator is needed.

Look, I don't agree with the referee sometimes in a football game, but imagine what the game would be like without him. :eek:
 
Child care..... I love it. People love to hate CJ. People love to hate sucessful people. All the attention just tells me he is doin a wonderful job.
 
Wow! You spelled "toe the line" correctly. I had to look this up the other day, as I thought it was "tow the line," as in pulling something. I'm always learning something new every day. I never knew there was a "toe the line." :embarrassed2:

I started martial arts training when I was 11, a very long time ago :eek: and at the beginning and end of class we had to line up. There were yellow lines across the dojo floor and you lined up front to back according to rank with your toes on the line. Been toeing the line for 38 years now :thumbup:
 
Without a healthy respect line life leads to many other "unhealthy" behaviors

I started martial arts training when I was 11, a very long time ago :eek: and at the beginning and end of class we had to line up. There were yellow lines across the dojo floor and you lined up front to back according to rank with your toes on the line. Been toeing the line for 38 years now :thumbup:

We call this the "Respect Line" and it's been 25 years, started 12 years after yourself, George. Without a healthy respect line life can often lead to many other "unhealthy" behaviors defined by what we do, and what we say.

Martial Arts was essential to my pocket billiards success, and even more, it taught an internal discipline that no person, place, or thing can take away.

Congratulations on your 38 years, and here's to another 38. :thumbup:
 
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