Make It Happen

If it is run the same as the 8 ball event last year and I'm pretty sure it is, the people who put up the cash for the event had the right to select the players. Don't know how many were on the list but I'm reasonably sure it was more than 6.
The 8 ball was great and I don't doubt the one pocket will be also.
 
wincardona said:
Never before in the history of our game have the worlds 6 best players been brought together to compete in a round robin format. We'll be able to watch each player compete against all five of the other players. Every match will be like watching a finals match in a tournament:grin:

As a reminder i'll post the players again and then we can envision.

Pagulayan
Frost
Reyes
Van Boening
Deuel
Daulton


Lets support all the people that put endless hours into streaming, to bring to us the best of the best in pool. Accu-Stats has been doing what they do for over 30 years. Thanks in advance to every one that supports Accu-Stats...TAR....Big Truck...lenny.... and all the other streamers that are partially responsible in keeping pool relative.

Enjoy the tournament.

Bill Incardona
Click to expand...

Never heard of them. :D
What?! No Allen Hopkins? Wait he just made a sh!t load at the expo! Who needs to play one pocket? Jk

What a line up! As if The Lion needed an edge playing on the 10footer. The Cannon can make a room so quiet you could hear a mouse pee on a cottonball. The Freezer playing his specialty. The Magician and Corey are sure to show us how to think outside the box. And pshhh SVB might just figure out how to rack and break all 8 in his pocket!

Epic proportions indeed!
 
Last edited:
IamCalvin06 said:
Did we forget about Cliff?
Click to expand...

Man, that is so true. Any one-pocket tournament that doesn't include Cliff Joyner is really not all-inclusive. I'm not sure why Cliff keeps getting left out of one-pocket happenings. Again, he was not inducted into the One-Pocket Hall of Fame, yet he's probably the most prominent one-pocket player of the '90s and 2000s. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't want to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink. :angry:
 
JAM said:
Man, that is so true. Any one-pocket tournament that doesn't include Cliff Joyner is really not all-inclusive. I'm not sure why Cliff keeps getting left out of one-pocket happenings. Again, he was not inducted into the One-Pocket Hall of Fame, yet he's probably the most prominent one-pocket player of the '90s and 2000s. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't want to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink. :angry:
Click to expand...

As you may already know, one pocket game players are either offensive (Scott, SVB, Cory , and others) or defensive players (Cliff, Shannon) and there is in between. I watched Cliff play lately; he tends to play very safe game one ball at a time, maybe because he cannot run balls like he used to. Truthfully i had to fast forward between every shot, very bad for video production, i hope Shannon and Efren do not get into up table game because it seem both players balls run ability is diminished a bit lately??
 
JAM said:
Man, that is so true. Any one-pocket tournament that doesn't include Cliff Joyner is really not all-inclusive. I'm not sure why Cliff keeps getting left out of one-pocket happenings. Again, he was not inducted into the One-Pocket Hall of Fame, yet he's probably the most prominent one-pocket player of the '90s and 2000s. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't want to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink. :angry:
Click to expand...

I do not believe it is the race card, its all about being voted in by confirmed members of onepocket.org. I will bet he gets inducted next year as he was very close this year. I just think Shannon got voted in because he has a more positive reputation along with being a great player.
 
BobTfromIL said:
If it is run the same as the 8 ball event last year and I'm pretty sure it is, the people who put up the cash for the event had the right to select the players. Don't know how many were on the list but I'm reasonably sure it was more than 6.
The 8 ball was great and I don't doubt the one pocket will be also.
Click to expand...

If it is run the same as the 8 ball event last year... Then all the balls will be the same color, right?

I love 8-ball and would have bought those DVD's. But then discovered the presentation was ruined by the ball set used.

HD video good, blue cloth good.

However, 10 foot tables, pockets getting too tight, weird ball sets... sooner or later too many experimental ingredients starts to ruin the recipe.

But I do commend the general concept of these "Make it Happen" events. To those who like one-pocket, I hope you will enjoy this tournament.

Fatz
 
wincardona said:
Support Accu-Stats and the game we all love...One Pocket.

The best 6 one pocket players in the world will be playing a round robin format on the Diamond 5X10 pool table in New Jersey starting on April 11th thru April 14th. Go to ...Accu-Stats On Line... to purchase the stream.

Alex Pagulayan
Scott Frost
Shane Van Boening
Efren Reyes
Cory Deuel
Shannon Daulton


This is a tournament that we can't afford to miss, please support Accu-Stats and help them stay relevant as they continue to bring to us the best of the best in pool.

Thank you,

Bill Incardona
Click to expand...

Thanks Bill, if this happens at super ball time, i will opt for the stream, cannot wait. All my money on Scott this time, it is time to prove to the world that he is the best one pocket player so people forget the way he played with Alex on the 8 ahead--go Scott, if he repeat same mistake he did with Alex he is out of my book for ever..Sure i love Efren to win it, he can, but all others know him by now, in pool, over estimating your opponent is half the battle amazing how it works, Efren has to let these players win the 1st game, maybe 2, otherwise there is no way for him to win or extremely hard will see, for Efren, he is already up there will always under estimate all his opponents very hard to get off this mode ..cannot wait. Cory on the other hand, might not get lucky this time with his multiple combination bank, kiss off ball shots! will see..Alex will loose Scott's games for sure, but might win all others, SVB, if he is in the mode for 1 pocket he might be a killer..
 
Well, there sure isn't anyone on that list that can't play 1pkt. Sure there are lots of other great players, Silver certainly crossed my mind as well, as did Chris Gentile, but as mentioned, this has much to do with who was the most popular pick that could attend.

Now, if we make this a success, perhaps the winner can return to play five other picks exclusive of the ones picked for this first event, and so on, and so on, until there are six event winners. Then .... the Masters Playoff!
 
JAM said:
Man, that is so true. Any one-pocket tournament that doesn't include Cliff Joyner is really not all-inclusive. I'm not sure why Cliff keeps getting left out of one-pocket happenings. Again, he was not inducted into the One-Pocket Hall of Fame, yet he's probably the most prominent one-pocket player of the '90s and 2000s. It just doesn't make sense to me.

I don't want to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink. :angry:
Click to expand...

You're seriously suggesting that Cliff Joyner isn't included because it may be a racial reason?
 
TX Poolnut said:
You're seriously suggesting that Cliff Joyner isn't included because it may be a racial reason?
Click to expand...

Before my words are embellished, dissected, ripped apart, misinterpreted, examined, and rewritten countless times in this thread, let me repeat my sentence: I don't want to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink.

I've been around the pool world for a long, long, long time, longer than some of the members posting here are alive on this earth. For at least two decades, 20-plus years, Cliff Joyner has been *the* best one-pocket player in America. He had to give up crazy weight just to get played. Before Efren, there was Grady Mathews, Ronnie Allen, and then Cliff Joyner, pretty much in that order.

I find it incredulous that he seems to be "overlooked," for lack of a better word, in one-pocket happenings.

I remember some of the top one-hole players in my area asking him for weight in 2002 at Q-Masters. Nobody wanted to play him. He was just that tough.

Maybe some folks haven't been involved in the pool world long enough to understand how strong Cliff Joyner's one-pocket game is. To compare Sylver O. and others to his legacy, IMO, there's no comparison. Make no mistake about it, I consider Cliff Joyner the best one-pocket player in the last 20 years.

Does he play as good today as he did in 1995 or 2000? Probably not, but I'd like to know how many people on this forum actually did witness Cliff's one-hole game in his prime. Those who did will know what I am referencing in this thread.
 
Last edited:
I don't see how you can say he was "overlooked" by someone in the decision making process when the players were voted in by the people buying the packages.

The general populace of pool players and viewers obviously wanted to see other players. I know the people I picked were based on their style of shooting, their aggressive shot making, and their fun personalities.

Pulling the race card just because he isn't as popular as the other players is a little over the top.
 
PaulieB said:
I don't see how you can say he was "overlooked" by someone in the decision making process when the players were voted in by the people buying the packages.

The general populace of pool players and viewers obviously wanted to see other players. I know the people I picked were based on their style of shooting, their aggressive shot making, and their fun personalities.

Pulling the race card just because he isn't as popular as the other players is a little over the top.
Click to expand...

Did I pull the race card? Hmm.

I think, if memory serves me right, my *exact* words were, and I repeat: I don'twant to call the race card on this, but it's starting to stink.

If I was going to pull the race card, I would have just come out and said it. I'm not shy. :smile:
 
PaulieB said:
I don't see how you can say he was "overlooked" by someone in the decision making process when the players were voted in by the people buying the packages....
Click to expand...

I forgot to address the first part of you post.

I was not only referring to this Accu-Stats happening. I was also referring to the fact that he is not in the One-Pocket Hall of Fame.

But you are right in that it seems both are based on the players voted in. Not sure if it has to do with their strength in one-pocket as so much as popularity, and that's okay. Accu-Stats is shooting for the viewers, and I guess Cliff Joyner is not as popular as the other six. :(
 
It's a shame

I think Cliffs game has dropped a tad due to age. You could probably use the reference to People thinking Effren has no chance in this group.I strongly disagree. You could use a quote from one of my favorite movies Diggstown " I think age has caught up with our poor Honey Roy Palmer" How did that turn out?
 
  • Like
Reactions: JAM
ToddW said:
I think Cliffs game has dropped a tad due to age. You could probably use the reference to People thinking Effren has no chance in this group.I strongly disagree. You could use a quote from one of my favorite movies Diggstown " I think age has caught up with our poor Honey Roy Palmer" How did that turn out?
Click to expand...

Great quote. Now I'm going to have to watch this movie. Thanks for that! :)
 
JAM said:
I forgot to address the first part of you post.

I was not only referring to this Accu-Stats happening. I was also referring to the fact that he is not in the One-Pocket Hall of Fame.

But you are right in that it seems both are based on the players voted in. Not sure if it has to do with their strength in one-pocket as so much as popularity, and that's okay. Accu-Stats is shooting for the viewers, and I guess Cliff Joyner is not as popular as the other six. :(
Click to expand...

On the OnePocket.org site the ballot results: Shannon 75, Cliff 74. Each were included on over 53% of the ballots casted with no other players reaching the 25% mark

Cliff received more than 2x the next nearest finisher.... looks like a lot of support out there and it should happen soon...
 
Pre-Flag Master said:
If it is run the same as the 8 ball event last year... Then all the balls will be the same color, right?

I love 8-ball and would have bought those DVD's. But then discovered the presentation was ruined by the ball set used.

HD video good, blue cloth good.

However, 10 foot tables, pockets getting too tight, weird ball sets... sooner or later too many experimental ingredients starts to ruin the recipe.

But I do commend the general concept of these "Make it Happen" events. To those who like one-pocket, I hope you will enjoy this tournament.

Fatz
Click to expand...

Don't know why they would use red and yellow balls, this is one pocket not eight ball. The balls were unusual but they did work for the game, patterns were easier to see, they were a bit more difficult for the commentators though then regular balls.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top