I agree with the decision to remove the text post.
It is a shame they didn't remove the "poster" as well
JOHNNY ARCHER apologizes for text to Mike Dechaine
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It is a shame they didn't remove the "poster" as well
So you feel it is not a matter of concern that the man at the helm of an organization that we are supposed believe exists to further professional pool has taken a personal matter and escalated it to threaten an individual with professional retaliation?
I guess we can just stare up at the clouds and scratch our nuts...or we can bring light to the sham that is the ABP by illuminating examples of the fact that it puts a select few first, the rest can tag along and maybeget thrown a few crumb along the way.
Jesus, Johnny... MD makes a sideways comment about your wife, you react and then you apologize for reacting? Stop being such a pussy!
Don't be so sensitive about us fans -- you could be #1 on the PGA tour and I'd still expect you to swing your lob wedge at someone's head who insults your wife. Most people would.
I mean, if someone called my woman a "know-it-all-beotch" or something....well, they'd be half-correct....but if she found out about it and was devastated, then you're almost FORCED to do something....like opening a tutoring business.
It looks like the forum is divided here on this subject. I didn't see the text so hard to respond too much about it...I will say I definitely am loyal and defend my friends when I feel they are attacked. Now does that make all my actions right by how I defend them?...possibly not, but I'd prefer to make a mistake there then to sit back and do nothing. He apologized for posting the text...sounds like it was a mistake, maybe cut him a bit of slack.
Johnny,
Check your PM's.
Check your PM's.
It was a beef over comments made about a mans wife, it dont belong here. You can color it any way you want to, its still out of line.
First, my caveat...I'm a huge JA fan. I'm also a fan of MD for the entertainment factor. And I did NOT see the texts before they got pulled.
JA, are you apologizing to the AZ community for having to view the texts? Or are you apologizing to MD? Or are you simply apologizing for letting your emotions get the best of you in sending the texts?
From the posts, it sounds like the texts had the intention of black balling MD in the pool world (no offense to the real Black Balled):smile:
If that is what the text was, have you talked to MD and extended an apology and olive branch? Or do your feelings stay they way they are?
People in the same profession do not need to get along personally. But there also can't be a person in power, that is also a competitor, who has the power to affect another's chance at a career IMO.
Best to both of you on getting past it and moving on.
Tap, Tap, Tap! Unbelieveable to me. Very bad form.
Mistakes were made on both sides.
One initiated the other
In the old days they could meet up at the YMCA & work it out in the ring.
In older days they could meet up under the 'Dueling Oaks' here in the City Park of New Orleans & I believe Mike would have his choice of weapons.
Some say we live in a more civilized world.
How about this? They match up & the loser has to decline to play the Mosconi Cup.
Or...
They work it out in private as the WHOLE thing should have remained from the very start even if one has some problems with how someone is doing or not doing something & then they make a public display that it has been worked out.
Or... it festers into a Mosconi - Fats thing.
It was their 'business' until it was made public.
One has made a public apology & one has sort of made an attempted to explain.
I think we should let it go back in private where it should have stayed.
It will either get worked out 'in private' or it won't.
Just my meaningless thoughts on it.
Best to All,
Rick
One initiated the other
In the old days they could meet up at the YMCA & work it out in the ring.
In older days they could meet up under the 'Dueling Oaks' here in the City Park of New Orleans & I believe Mike would have his choice of weapons.
Some say we live in a more civilized world.
How about this? They match up & the loser has to decline to play the Mosconi Cup.
Or...
They work it out in private as the WHOLE thing should have remained from the very start even if one has some problems with how someone is doing or not doing something & then they make a public display that it has been worked out.
Or... it festers into a Mosconi - Fats thing.
It was their 'business' until it was made public.
One has made a public apology & one has sort of made an attempted to explain.
I think we should let it go back in private where it should have stayed.
It will either get worked out 'in private' or it won't.
Just my meaningless thoughts on it.
Best to All,
Rick
Kudos to Johnny for manning up. He was in the wrong to send something like that. As a leader, he should set an example and has done so. If he continues to deal with MD, even though MD is a giant sore spot for him, it shows he is the right guy for whatever job is coming around the corner.
Johnny please continue to do a good job as a leader. I think you can make something happen with pro pool. Hope you continue to make these types of good decisions, and that whatever is going to happen with BB, works out for all the pros.
best,
Justin
Johnny please continue to do a good job as a leader. I think you can make something happen with pro pool. Hope you continue to make these types of good decisions, and that whatever is going to happen with BB, works out for all the pros.
best,
Justin
According to johnny, they were said to his wife ,not about his wife . Big difference.
Exactly... Say anything about my wife or mom, you're going to catch a dudu chop, then about 10 more, then get kicked in the ribs about 30 times. Stop being such a pussy!
Step 8:
Made a list of all persons I have harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
1. Sorry to my wife for getting so shit-faced at our wedding that I could not perform later on.
2. Sorry to my best friend Sadie for drinking both pints of Cuervo Gold at your wedding and sticking my foot in the salad while dancing on the buffet table and calling your sweet mother a fat, ugly b!tch when she begged me to stop.
Must I go on?
Depending on what was said, maybe Melanie show have slapped him. Southern Ladies use to do that back in the day.
Now days she probably would have wound up in jail for assault & battery. So, she probably tells her husband, Johnny & he sends an ill advised text instead of handling it in person.
I guess the digital world we now live in is more 'civilized'.:wink:
Best to All,
Rick
Some of you guys are writing your own version of the story
without reading Johnny or Mike's post carefully.
Johnny's exact words are:
Not "about" Johnny's wife. TO his wife. Meaning, they spoke face to face.
Nowhere does Johnny claim Mike actually said something nasty about his woman.
But maybe he kind of allows that misunderstanding to continue, because it creates
a simple narrative with a good guy and a bad guy, and johnny gets to be the good guy.
I guess some of you want to believe the story is something like: mike said something
rude about or to johnny's wife, or even made a pass at her, and the family man
said "them's fighting words!" to the arrogant mouthy kid trying to steal his
woman or besmirch her honor.
The boring reality is probably that mike was making small talk with his wife,
they talked about the pro pool scene, and mike made some very blunt comments
about the ABP, which was Johnny's brainchild, so of course he took offense
when she repeated the comments to him.
without reading Johnny or Mike's post carefully.
Johnny's exact words are:
Not "about" Johnny's wife. TO his wife. Meaning, they spoke face to face.
Nowhere does Johnny claim Mike actually said something nasty about his woman.
But maybe he kind of allows that misunderstanding to continue, because it creates
a simple narrative with a good guy and a bad guy, and johnny gets to be the good guy.
I guess some of you want to believe the story is something like: mike said something
rude about or to johnny's wife, or even made a pass at her, and the family man
said "them's fighting words!" to the arrogant mouthy kid trying to steal his
woman or besmirch her honor.
The boring reality is probably that mike was making small talk with his wife,
they talked about the pro pool scene, and mike made some very blunt comments
about the ABP, which was Johnny's brainchild, so of course he took offense
when she repeated the comments to him.
^^^adding to my signature.
This can be applied toward well over half the bullshit on this forum. Some people should apply this logic, and the world would be a little more round.
Johnny has a leadership role now. Whether he likes it or not, he has it, and should act as such. This was a good step in the right direction.
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Thank you. The last paragraph explains exactly what happened.