Dechaine quits out of turn!

hang-the-9 said:
I did not think there was actually a rule about when you can forfeit. For example, if you unscrew your cue during your opponents turn, it's counted as a forfeit, which took place in the middle of the opponent's inning.

I have often conceded the last ball to someone if it was easy (9 or 10 ball here), or even if it was semi-easy but they had a good run out to get to it or a good position shot or something. If I respect the player and we have a good match going I would not want to see someone miss a game winner.

In fact, several times I have people concede the game winner to me when I felt iffy about making it. Took a load of my mind let me tell you hehe.
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I take it you don't gamble? You would never see this mindset with players gambling.
 
I tried watching the stream a few times today but all I can see is the chat. The video player window is not there.

See attached screen shot.

I have a mac, tried both safari and firefox. I disabled adblock on firefox for insidepool.tv, still no video player.

I am able to watch the recorded videos.

I watched the stream from steinway recently, no problem.
 

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Sloppy Pockets said:
I see your point, but champions quit in the chair all the time. What are we do do about that? I've seen Earl do it in pool on several occasions, and even a ferocious tiger like Roberto Duran seemed to know when it was time to say, "No mas."
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You do know that the majority of people thought that fight was a dump, don't you?
 
hang-the-9 said:
Beanless chilli is just a spicy chopped burger.
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:eek:

<-----plugs ears. lalalalalalalalalalala

The Rules and Regulations for cooks at the World’s Championship, State, Regional and District Cookoffs are as follows:

1. Traditional Red Chili is defined by the International Chili Society as any kind of meat or combination of meats,
cooked with red chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients, with the exception of BEANS and PASTA
which are strictly forbidden.

2. Chili Verde is defined by the International Chili Society as any kind of meat or combination of meats, cooked
with green chili peppers, various spices and other ingredients, with the exception of BEANS and PASTA which
are strictly forbidden.

http://www.chilicookoff.com/Event/event_rules.asp


Mike quit before the game was "over"?

well thats a shame. maybe he smelled chili cooking and wanted to find out if it had beans?
 
The Kiss said:
If Mike really wanted to blow Corey's mind. There was a foul that was commited by Corey.Towards the end before MD quit Corey made a shot and scratched Corey stopped the cue ball before it hit the pocket. By the book it is a 16 ball foul/penalty. Generally its not called but if you really wanted to be a dick that would have been the perfect time to call it. The tension between misses/sharking/railbirds chirping was at a peak level.
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Actually, under WPA (world-standardized) rules, it is considered unsportsmanlike conduct. The penalty is to be determined by the referee, and can range from just a warning all the way to ejection and forfeiture of any prizes.
 
pt109 said:
In snooker, it's considered bad form to concede a match when it is not
your turn at the table.....pros have been warned or even fined for it.
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Players often concede a frame immediately after missing a shot - generally only when they need snookers, though.
 
JohnnyP said:
I tried watching the stream a few times today but all I can see is the chat. The video player window is not there.

See attached screen shot.

I have a mac, tried both safari and firefox. I disabled adblock on firefox for insidepool.tv, still no video player.

I am able to watch the recorded videos.

I watched the stream from steinway recently, no problem.
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Have you tried to google. Ustream wont play on mac

http://casadeblundell.com/jonathan/ustream-videos-not-working-fixed/

Could be something with flash player
 
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backplaying said:
I take it you don't gamble? You would never see this mindset with players gambling.
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I've seen people concede games early gambling, not just the game winner but 2-3 ball run outs when the players were good.

Grady said several times on commentary during matches that "if you were gambling you'd just throw those balls in and start a new game".
 
Sounds childish....gives little respect to the game if that's what actually transpired.
 
POVPOOL said:
Unscrewing your cue, which can be construed as a forfeit actually isn't.

If this were a rule, Jose Parica would have been forfeited from 100's of events. He's very well known for using as many as 3-4 shafts during a match sometimes.
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Changing a shaft is a different thing, you do it on your turn and should be pretty obvious you are not just doing it to put away the cue. Only a total jerk would start saying you are quitting in this case.

I've seen people stand 20 feet from their case in line of sight of the guy shooting and they start to slowly take apart the cue while the other guy is finishing the game. That is a loss of game.
 
absolutely

Mainplayer said:
That really wasn't quitting. I missed a pretty easy ball and felt Corey could run the 10 wide open balls on the table. I guess something could have happened but I respect his game.
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Very good point. To me there is a difference between quitting, and conceding. I watched a guy concede, in a tournament, the game after the break playing 8 ball on a bar box to our house pro. Sucked because I had him in the Calcutta.

Could Corey have not got out, possible, but not probable.

It is Mike's decision, nobody elses.
 
Bustamante conceded to Neils in the World Straight Pool tournament a few years ago. It was a completely lopsided match and Neils only had a few more balls to run before becoming the champion, but Busty conceded first. Personally, I think Busty's concession was poor etiquette, especially given that it was the finals and a straight pool tournament. Let Neils run the last few balls and get the satisfaction of pocketing that last ball for a climactic finish. But conceding robs him of that thrill.

I don't know if anyone else noticed, but Bustamante actually conceded to Darren in this year's 14.1 tournament BEFORE Darren pocketed his 200th straight ball. WTF? Let Darren get the satisfaction of actually pocketing the last ball and achieving the first ever 200-and-out completely undisturbed. If Francisco actually knew the count when he decided to concede, then this would have been a completely classless move. But I like Busty (a lot, even), and I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he simply thought Darren already pocketed the 200th ball before shaking his hand.
 
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makes no sense

POVPOOL said:
Look guys, I'm not trying to bash Mike and frankly I only caught the last 30 minutes of that match and didn't see the Corey, food ordering incident. Furthermore, I was unaware that touching the cue ball was a 15 point foul which, is also a very good point indeed...

The point which I was really trying to make is that technically, a concession can only be made during a player's turn. Not before, or after. A concession cannot be legally accepted by a tournament director or an opponent until it is that person's turn at the table and they physically motion or indicate that they concede the match or game.

I know it sounds nitpicky, but these are rules that have been established for many years. If you've ever watched a snooker match and the player is in the middle of a run and yet has clearly won the frame, you NEVER see the other player get up and say, 'Okay, you win!'

The opponent cannot technically forfeit until the inning is over and it is his turn at the table.

I feel it's important to understand this because this is an integral part of sportsmanship.

Not that the food thing had any merit either.
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So Mike could only forfeit before he missed the ball in hand? When is it still considered your turn, when you sit down, or when the balls stop rolling.

If he leaves not to come back is the tournament stopped until he returns, what if he doesn't return.

Stupid rule, and totally unenforceable.
 
POVPOOL said:
Look guys, I'm not trying to bash Mike and frankly I only caught the last 30 minutes of that match and didn't see the Corey, food ordering incident. Furthermore, I was unaware that touching the cue ball was a 15 point foul which, is also a very good point indeed...

The point which I was really trying to make is that technically, a concession can only be made during a player's turn. Not before, or after. A concession cannot be legally accepted by a tournament director or an opponent until it is that person's turn at the table and they physically motion or indicate that they concede the match or game.

I know it sounds nitpicky, but these are rules that have been established for many years. If you've ever watched a snooker match and the player is in the middle of a run and yet has clearly won the frame, you NEVER see the other player get up and say, 'Okay, you win!'

The opponent cannot technically forfeit until the inning is over and it is his turn at the table.

I feel it's important to understand this because this is an integral part of sportsmanship.

Not that the food thing had any merit either.
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"I quit" ...."no you can't quit it is not your turn"...... "watch me".... Really?
 
What's the difference between quitting in a pool set and a fighter throwing in a towel? Pro golfers quit mid round when they play like a hack and just blame it on their back.... seen it a lot.

If someone quits... it's the same as an MMA fighter tapping out. Don't make a huge deal over it.

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Sloppy Pockets said:
Really?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...bizarre-final-frame-concession-143421711.html

Drago conceded the match after a missed shot, just like Mike did, only in his case he tried to retract the concession and McManus refused to accept the retraction. Of course, Drago then proceeded to beat the shit out of his own head. At least Dechaine didn't do that. ;)
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Only because he knew he'd be charged for heavy damage to the table.
HOOOOOHHHHHH

that was mean, sorry.

Drago tried to take it back because he'd forgotten there's a 500ish dollar fine for conceding like that.
He was bashing his head because he basically just set fire to his rent money.
 
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