Break Pad opinions

a good sign

It's usually a good sign the room owner takes care of the tables. At home I did use one for a while but after some practice jumping and other power stroke type shots I did get burn marks and just quit using one .It's up to each person and it does help keep the table in good visual order but I got my simonis 860 to play on not stare at .:grin-square:
 
Black-Balled said:
Damn!@ That is way more than insuating I have seen your butt.

FTR: I have NOT!
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Good point, not my intent, sorry. Folks, BB has not seen my butt, in fact we have not even met face to "face" :). I feel a little dirty now and need a shower.
 
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12squared said:
Good point, not my intent, sorry. Folks, BB has not seen my butt, in fact we have not even met face to face. I feel a little dirty now and need a shower.
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Pads

carter1984 said:
I was wondering what folks think of break pads. I have seen some in use at various rooms across the US, but it doesn't appear to be very consistent.

I have been told by some friends that they are required by pool rooms in some parts of the world, and very common in Europe and Asia.

Does anyone have much experience with them? What are the perceived or real pro's and con's to using them?
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Break pads help save the cloth especially for jumping which is very hard on cloth. I don't allow jumping on my table so it's not really an issue. It will cause skids in center of table but will help in that area where everyone wants to break from. I don't break hard anyway cause I don't need to make a ball on the break to beat most people. I actually like a messy table. We will both be working hard.
 
carter1984 said:
I was wondering what folks think of break pads. I have seen some in use at various rooms across the US, but it doesn't appear to be very consistent.

I have been told by some friends that they are required by pool rooms in some parts of the world, and very common in Europe and Asia.

Does anyone have much experience with them? What are the perceived or real pro's and con's to using them?
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I saved a nice sized piece of cloth from the last time I had my table recovered. I use it a lot, everytime I break here at home.
 
I use a break pad made from some extra cloth from the recover job. They do save wear and tear. I used to use a piece of newspaper.

If you break (without the piece of cloth) and hit the ball hard, it will go airbourne. If you don't believe me, place a coin (Dime) a few inches in front of the cue ball before the break and see what happens. I haven't noticed a difference when breaking without the cloth at the hall.
 
I have had very mixed results with it , I had to use it at one place in Alaska the cull ball is automatically higher than the apex ball if you take that cloth and place it right infront of the apex ball and then place the cueball on it there will be a height diffrence.

And no matter what the ferrule and the tip are still going to scrape past across the break cloth. Its still going to leave marks.
 
Break Pad Opinions

carter1984 said:
I was wondering what folks think of break pads. I have seen some in use at various rooms across the US, but it doesn't appear to be very consistent.

I have been told by some friends that they are required by pool rooms in some parts of the world, and very common in Europe and Asia.

Does anyone have much experience with them? What are the perceived or real pro's and con's to using them?
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Just before my husband Lawrence "Larry" Krebs passed away back in November of 2006, he had implemented the use of "break pads" on my pool tables at work. He used pieces of Granito felt cut to about 10" x 14". At first, I did not understand the use of these "break pads" for I had never heard of them, nor seen them in use. I guess Larry was just a smart man who was ahead of his time. I have now heard of several places using break pads. Some people describe them being used in other places, but the sizes are much smaller than what I use. I understand other people to use them to stop the burn from the cue ball upon breaking. I use mine for two reasons: 1) burn from breaking and 2) divots in cloth from people who strike through the cue ball and into the felt. The main reason for me IS the divots from that follow through. I ask my customers to place the cue ball to the back end of the break pad...thereby allowing the cue's tip to strike the pad instead of the playing felt in front of the break pad. I get mixed emotions and comments from folks. But this is the only way I know of to try to salvage the playing surface and keep it playable without holes in it from follow through. I could say here that if I were rich that I would not worry about such things, but the truth is that I am not rich and my hands are getting older and hurt when I recover my tables. I like a nice playable surface on which to play. Customers who understand, use the break pad without snide remarks.
 
Instead of a small 3 inch square piece of cloth lay down a strip about 6 feet long all the way to the rack kinda like a runner. This way you can eliminate all spots lol.

Another fantastic idea is to allow chalking only with the cue upside down in a bucket to catch all the chalk dust. :thumbup:

Hospital shoe covers, mask, hair net and hospital gowns are good ideas too.
 
All cueballs skip

WoodyJ said:
I've always used a break pad on my table for the past year (after it was recovered with Simonis 360HR). Also, I have two break spots and break from both ends of the table to even out the wear.

My results:

- No burn marks at either end of the table.

- Lots of skip marks in the middle of the table.

So, my guess is that since the cue ball is slightly elevated (on the break pad), you get more (skip) burn marks in the middle of the table as a tradeoff for no burn marks where the cueball is at rest?

When the center of the table gets more chewed up I'll maybe stop using the break pad and start wearing out the ends more.

As someone else said above, I'm bummed that the HR version of the cloth doesn't do a better job of resisting the burn marks.
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All cueballs skip on the break 2-3 times. The reason you see it clearly on your practice table is that you are the primary breaker. My home table has been reclothed twice, since the last time I always use a break cloth. The marks are the same it either case. The skip marks are made because the cueball does bounce off the slate due to its weight and the force of the break.
 
I use a thin piece of microfiber cloth that game with my eyeglasses (for cleaning your glasses). It works great and feels about 25% of the thickness of Simonis 860.
 
What size should the pad be? I'll start using some of my scrap material and include pads in the Accu-racks sets......

Chris
 
Put me in the camp of those who experience more bounce coming off a square of Simonis cloth, and not liking it.

Has anyone tried Tyvek, the material used in some overnight envelopes? Reading up on it, it's very thin, strong, and heat resistant, and shouldn't transfer any color to the cue ball or affect the roll of an object ball coming up-table.

We just got new Simonis on several tables at the local PH thanks to Ernesto, so next time I take my BreakRak down for a practice session I'll see how Tyvek performs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyvek
 
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