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Ivory Ban
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I've killed enough animals growing up on a farm. I don't need to watch a video. It's all horrific and unnecessary yet virtually everyone likes chicken soup and many love their steak and ribs, ham, turkey etc.
Given your logic, we should totally ban fishing, have you seen the fish lying on the boat suffocating? Live lobster in boiling water,? to quote you. "It's horrific and totally unnecessary."
Have you ever killed anything and eaten it? Have you killed something and watched it die then cut it up and cook it? How can you eat meat if you haven't? How can you eat meat if you have? How can you wear leather shoes or leather coats or carry a leather handbag?
IF you're going to say killing one animal for humans to use its body is wrong, shouldn't there be a universal standard for all animals? Why the hypocrisy? How can you chose just a handful or only one animal that you're going to try to protect?
We could equally apply the same logic to the use of pesticides that kill the cockroaches that like to live in people's houses, the ants that enter our yards and homes. Yet we crush them under our heels and poison them in their homes.
Because they are small and we can't hear their cries, does that make it less horrific?
You're certainly entitled to your opinion and I'll defend your right to say it but I'm not going to agree with you on this one
There is a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering inflicted on both humans and other animals. Whenever we manage to stop just one horrific deed, we've helped to make things just a little better.
But taking the attitude that if we can't fix it all at the same time, then we shouldn't fix any of it, will just keep us standing in place, allowing the same injustices over and over again.
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Buddy! Your not in the 7th grade schoolyard anymore, so get over it an and start contributing like an adult!
Is a paid for hunt at a management reserve that results in an elephant kill, a harvested tusk, all of the meat harvested and fed to local citizens, elephant products made and sold, and all proceeds used to keep the reserve going, buy medicine for the elephants, pay for people who work at the reserve, and pay to fight poachers a "horrific deed"?
I am not your buddy. YOU.. round mouth, started in with the childish for beginners attitude of.. if you don't believe what I believe then your wrong. So your your seventh grade comment makes you a Hypocrite and a punk to boot. In this country people aren't wrong because we don't agree with them. You'd best realize that before talking shit in someone else's country. So shut your lutefisk hole and worry more about Muslims overrunning your country and less about what I build my cue with.
P.S.
Fokk deg, stikk og heng.
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Impressive...
You sure got a way with words
Velkomst Dirttsekk.
Yes. The Norway that's so irrelevant people get upset over its inhabitants expressing an honest opinion.
How is your national debt these days? Still doing tremendously well? If you're lucky, and ask nicely, the irrelevant Norway may give you a loan.
Envy is a terrible thing.
I'm not taking the attitude you suggest. I simply disagree with you.
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Pathetic Shark
Banned
Pathetic Shark
Banned
Indeed it is, one of the seven deadly sins.
I think your douchiness meter is broken...
Trying to hearl profanities at me in some strange type of broken Norwegian does not give you any points.
O-N-L-Y
A careful reading of my post would have helped with understanding...
Tho, it may well be true that SOME peoply only want ivory due to status,
it most certainly does not follow that ALL people who want ivory, only
want it for status.
Should I include a logic diagram?
Dale(captain of the comprehension police)
You said that status driven consumption is a myth. It is not. And ivory used to be a common material, so common that billiard balls were made from it alongside a lot of other items like combs
Since the invention of materials to replace ivory and along with the regulation of ivory in trade the price has steadily risen as the status demand drives the continued use.
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Why then would you be suggesting that I should take that philosophy if you don't? Isn't that basically what you're asking me to do --- Apply it across the board or don't apply it at all? I know you don't apply that philosophy to teaching pool and neither do I --- either fix it all at once or don't fix it at all. Imagine the poor player. He'd be spinning in circles.
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Ivory ban
I am using common sense approach here but I don't think there could be enough agents to enforce such a ban , I could see stopping the sale of ivory after a certain date but trying to stop individuals from reselling grandmas piano is silly or grandpas cue. The original poster if I am not mistaken makes a good living selling ivory so I understand his concern for ivory ban and if it's like gun stuff he probably sold out existing supply lol
I am using common sense approach here but I don't think there could be enough agents to enforce such a ban , I could see stopping the sale of ivory after a certain date but trying to stop individuals from reselling grandmas piano is silly or grandpas cue. The original poster if I am not mistaken makes a good living selling ivory so I understand his concern for ivory ban and if it's like gun stuff he probably sold out existing supply lol
The only way to peg the douch meter is to be an elitist Euro who thinks his opinion is the only one that matters.
I'm not suggesting you fix it all. I'm just saying that you seem to be focused on how "horrific" the elephant deaths are and i'm trying to point out that there are other horrific deaths whenever we eat an animal. I seriously doubt you'd be the one kicking down my door trying to take my ivory laden cues away from me or taking my piano because it has ivory keys. The whole argument of we're going to send the government in to kick in doors and steal from people en masse will never work and if it's tried door to door to search and confiscate every piece of ivory in existence elephants won't be the only things dying. The proposal to make owning ivory or any other currently legal collectable illegal and suggesting that the government will just waltz into every home in America and steal it from people will never work. Like I said, we disagree. I can't support the government or anyone else going door to door confiscating ivory, guns etc.