I guess combo's are out of the question!
Changing the subject is like admitting your wrong.
PRO ONE for Dummies, using *GASP* a diagram.
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Changing the subject is like admitting your wrong.
Regardless, the troll has no clue what he's talking about.
pewpewpool
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His aiming "system" he describes in the video goes something like this..."If I need to use English for position, I won't aim directly for the pocket..."
That sounds like an adjustment he's learned after shooting at a lot of balls. It sounded to me that the TAR folks were the ones all over it being called a "system".
He also mentioned that for thin cuts with CB and OB he just goes for it without thinking because he usually will over think the shot if not...
Anywho...on a different note. Here is my question.
Will the 2nd DVD be sufficient without me having to buy the 1st as well?
Thanks in advance.
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Your rite Beiber.
Thank You!
My New years resolution is to let you all be,you guys are insulting and just down rite mean.
PS......Hope they dont change the tables dimensions.:thumbup:
Anthony
Lol - your post got that reaction buddy. I don't consider myself a mean person.
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Your rite Beiber.
Thank You!
My New reyears resolution is to let you all be,you guys are insulting and just down rite mean.
PS......Hope they dont change the tables dimensions.:thumbup:
Anthony
1.The same shot!
2.The curtain!
3.Connected to the table!
4. The fake pocket!(pro1 wont hit)
5.Stans video of the same process creating different results.
6.Center pocket system!
I could find more ,but dont care to....You guys have insulted me.....or anyone who questions you guys.If you think that I have a problem with any of you ....you got it all wrong.:wink: Good luck with your Game.
Anthony
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Your rite Beiber.
Thank You!
My New years resolution is to let you all be,you guys are insulting and just down rite mean.
PS......Hope they dont change the tables dimensions.:thumbup:
Anthony
The fact that you make claims that what Stan and others are saying can't be true, when you yourself don't understand the system, and haven't even seen the 2nd DVD.
That's what makes you a troll.
I wouldn't be worried about a change in table dimensions anytime soon, seeing as how the 2x1 design has been around for over 160 years and maybe longer.
ALL of what I presented is TRUE. Trust me, if it were not your following would be more than ZERO.
Stan Shuffett
I don't think I have insulted you. I like you.
As for your points.
1. Same shot? - No idea what you mean. Every shot on the table requires a different body postion but many of them can be correctly lined up using the same perception if that's what you mean.
2. The curtain? - You mean being able to make balls with a curtain blocking the pocket? What is your problem with that? Let's see anyone else do ten cross banks without seeing the rail.
3. Connected to the table. - How do you know it's not? I don't know if it is or not but when I can do things like make three rail shots from random places just by using CTE I tend to think there is some kind of connection there.
4. The fake pocket!(pro1 wont hit). - Well this goes along with the point above. It follows that if there is a CTE solution for a pocket the that same solution won't go anywhere else. But frankly I don't know why this doesn't work but I do know Stan thinks it is important and that he is being extremely honest about what he is observing.
5.Stans video of the same process creating different results. - This is something you still don't understand? I showed a video where I set up three parallel positions and on each and every shot I used the exact same perceptions and body motions. This is the heart of this whole thing. That you can treat every shot nearly the same.
6.Center pocket system! - I think it is. I think if you are able to align correctly and stroke correctly then the shot line is sending the object ball to center pocket. Can you prove otherwise? If you can do the shots with PRO One call outs and a perfect stroke then show it.
It's been my theory for a while that there are three contributing factors that make CTE work.
1. The perceptions/or visuals.
2. The pivot.
3. The cue's angle of attack, which is caused by the pivot.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that when the cue is angled to the right (as shown in the diagram), it will cut the OB slightly more to the left. The same occurs if the cue is angled slightly to the left, it will cut the OB a little more to the right.
This might explain why an inside pivot is used when you need to thin the angle.
1. The perceptions/or visuals.
2. The pivot.
3. The cue's angle of attack, which is caused by the pivot.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that when the cue is angled to the right (as shown in the diagram), it will cut the OB slightly more to the left. The same occurs if the cue is angled slightly to the left, it will cut the OB a little more to the right.
This might explain why an inside pivot is used when you need to thin the angle.
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I have a question about your pictures. On the right picture the cue is making right English by pointing toward the center with some angle. Is it supposed to be so or the cue actually shall point somewhere to the left to the "old" center thus creating a new center where the shooter shall hit?
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It's a new center, no spin.
Like I said though, it's just a theory. That diagram could very well be completely wrong, and I'll be okay if Stan says it is wrong.
I just figured it makes sense that when the cue is pointed straight, parallel 1/2 tip away from center. That when you pivot with your backhand, the cue will now have a slight angle (it's a little exaggerated in my diagram), and that could be one of the reasons why it works.
Once again, just a theory at this point.
pewpewpool
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That's what I needed to know, thanks.
Do you think he would talk about his aiming system and his secrets ???? Of course he would never do that !!! And he never will !!! My friend, the way this man pockets balls has nothing to do with feeling and adjustments. He is a potting machine and he goes through systematic process on every shot he takes. That's why he is the only player who plays perfect bank pool without being a "bank pool expert". Trust me, I have been watching this guy since 2009. I have watched some of his matches and shots 500 times and maybe more. You have to watch carefully to realise that nothing this guy does is based on experience and feeling. Different left foot positions (footwork), bridge placements, head positions.......
I have a question for you. Do you think Ronnie O' Sullivan also plays by feeling ???
At Allen Hopkins' s "Million Dollar Event" held a number of years ago at the Valley Forge Convention Center, both myself and Donny Perryman (Lambros Cues) were lucky enough to smoke a few cigs with Busty and discuss his pivoting at length.
Regardless of what he might say in a public forum, he ain't a ghost ball or spot on the ball pocketer. We were lucky to hear the whole story from when he was first taught the system and continued as to why he maintained his manual pivot.
The fact is... that man clearly doesn't want his info out and has no wish to educate others.
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pewpewpool
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I'm going off of the source that you mentioned, which wasn't a good example. Next time you should provide something better.
No clue about Ronnie. He's been on a snooker table long enough that I'm sure most of his shots are recognizable from thousands of the same shots before.
That's a cool story. I'm not saying he doesn't use some sort of aiming system. I'm only saying that to use that video as proof that he does use one is silly.
Do you have more of that conversation with him posted somewhere on the forum? I'd be interested in reading it.
I don't blame him for not wanting the info out either...pool is the man's livelihood
How does Busti know where the cueball is going ?
I've seen Busti jump as soon as he realized he hit the ball too fat or too thin b/c he knows he missed.
If he doesn't know what the two balls would look like upon impact, he should never jump right after collision because after all he shouldn't have that mental image on his head ( how thick or thin the hit is ) , IMHO.
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