D'oh.......
What Would You Do - The Push Out
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D'oh.......
One thing I like to do is to not only stay away from my opponent's strengths but also stay away from my own weaknesses. For me, I would hit the 2 and roll it right up near the 1 ball. That would leave a kick at the 1 and the 2 ball would be so close to the 1 that it would take the possibility of a jump shot out of the equation. Leaves my opponent with less options and steers the shot towards my strengths, as I am a better kicker than a jumper. If you are playing someone who seems to always reach for a jump cue to get out of a trouble spot, this is a good way to push the shot towards your strengths.
Bank the 7 towards the 9 hopefully making the runout tougher while trying to leave just the edge of the 1 ball for my opponent.
Damn, Gerry...I love it!
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Eric >welcome back, btw
Are we playing Texas Express or Two Shot Foul??? Big difference.
Lol - I never read every post - glad that we agree.
Push out by shooting the 5 ball into the 9 tying up both balls. This will get you back to the table.
Im with jerry, banking the 7 onto the 9 ball to tie them up......stop Qball, leaving a thin hit on the 1.
Unless im playing a stiff.....then roll out to a straight in shot on the one and let em runa a few off for me:wink:
Unless im playing a stiff.....then roll out to a straight in shot on the one and let em runa a few off for me:wink:
If you are playing a good player, I like slow rolling the 8 ball to try and tie up the 3, leaving them jacked up over the 10, focus being on the cue ball solidly in front of the 10.
I think it really depends on whom you are playing. Loads of people are talking about tying up balls instead of leaving a good equal offensive opportunities. If your opponent is really strong then tying up balls may be a good option but if you are the favorite they why make things harder??
Don't "wake the dead".
LMFAO! When I saw that he pushed to that spot and thought he would get the shot back, I laughed out loud.
You are going to have to leave something MUCH harder than that to think you'll ever get the shot back.
The KEY to pushing out is knowing what YOU are going to do if he gives the shot back to you. You should know this before you ever push. If the shot you push to is WORSE than the shot you had, you may want to shoot the shot at hand.
I personally like to challenge people with a shot that may be makeable, but the shooter is going to have to be "Houdini" with the cue ball to get position on the next ball. Like table distance shots off the rail with the next ball either hidden or at the far other end of the table. I don't mind losing a game to "Houdini" if he gets out.
Don't "wake the dead".
You are always talking about push-out rules, so when I see your name on the thread, I'm curious what you will have to say. All we get is a picture of zombies.....real nice contribution.
Call me crazy, but I would probably go for the 2-rail hit on the 1-ball, using heavy right and a firm hit. It's a shot I practice--i.e., sending the CB two rails and to the pocket that's in the bottom left of the picture. Hit firm, some good separation is likely to result. Of course, I'd probably hit the 1 and then scratch off the 2 in the side.
The reasons are obvious to those with "eyes that can see"
Thank you......:groucho:
You are always talking about push-out rules, so when I see your name on the thread, I'm curious what you will have to say. All we get is a picture of zombies.....real nice contribution.
Thank you......:groucho:
you can't hide your knowledge playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' the strategy gives it away
Yes, I did too....that's one thing about Push/Shoot Out rules, you can tell someone's skill level right away. I always wondered what level that player was and now I know....you can't hide your knowledge playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' the strategy is too obvious to players that really know how the game's played. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Aloha
Yes, I did too....that's one thing about Push/Shoot Out rules, you can tell someone's skill level right away. I always wondered what level that player was and now I know....you can't hide your knowledge playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' the strategy is too obvious to players that really know how the game's played. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Aloha
Ok,at first glance my instinct if I was at the table would be to push somewhere in A in my reposted pic. The plan here is to dare the opponent to make the one AND get on the 2 right. The closer to the rail the better,limiting their options with the cue ball,to make it tougher.
If it gets passed back,the same safety as Tate would be my 1st choice as well,but if I'm in stroke,I'm shooting the one if it goes.
I also see shooting the 7,and putting it as close to B as possible. It makes the safe tougher,but I'm prepared if they pass it back.
If I'm looking at using the 4 somehow,I'm gonna kick it and try to leave the rock at C and try to get the cue ball to the end rail,and if I hit it perfect it winds up at D or E.
I also like the idea of using the 5,or maybe even the 9 and try to get to D or E that way. Also at D and E,you can put the 5 OR whitey there.
Pushing for a jumpshot behind the 5 isn't a new concept to me,but not one I see regularly,so I'd be impressed if my opponent chose this. I'd also take the shot myself,because if he's really confident enough with his jump cue skill to push there,I can't let him beat me to it,and I handle my jump cue pretty well too :wink:.
You can also shoot the 8 and stick the cue ball and try to leave the 8 at F.
I've seen a few guys that would try and jump if you simply lagged to G.
I'd also like to hear what the OP did,and yes if someone pushed to where Beiber said he would have,yeah I'm swinging too. Tommy D.
If it gets passed back,the same safety as Tate would be my 1st choice as well,but if I'm in stroke,I'm shooting the one if it goes.
I also see shooting the 7,and putting it as close to B as possible. It makes the safe tougher,but I'm prepared if they pass it back.
If I'm looking at using the 4 somehow,I'm gonna kick it and try to leave the rock at C and try to get the cue ball to the end rail,and if I hit it perfect it winds up at D or E.
I also like the idea of using the 5,or maybe even the 9 and try to get to D or E that way. Also at D and E,you can put the 5 OR whitey there.
Pushing for a jumpshot behind the 5 isn't a new concept to me,but not one I see regularly,so I'd be impressed if my opponent chose this. I'd also take the shot myself,because if he's really confident enough with his jump cue skill to push there,I can't let him beat me to it,and I handle my jump cue pretty well too :wink:.
You can also shoot the 8 and stick the cue ball and try to leave the 8 at F.
I've seen a few guys that would try and jump if you simply lagged to G.
I'd also like to hear what the OP did,and yes if someone pushed to where Beiber said he would have,yeah I'm swinging too
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Tommy D, the OP woke up yesterday and went downstairs to let his dog outside. Since the table is by the backdoor, I racked some 10-ball while I waited on the dog.
This was my very first break. I saw the layout and took a picture of the spread, raked the balls, and put my cue away.
I posted this picture and haven't touched my cue since. Sometimes I hate the pool gods.
My first idea was to push to the foor rail, taking away the bottom of the ball from my opponent, sorta around A in your diagram. I was hoping to get some better/different ideas. It looks like I need to work on myjump shot.
AZB comes through again. Nice posts guys. I should do this more often.
This was my very first break. I saw the layout and took a picture of the spread, raked the balls, and put my cue away.
I posted this picture and haven't touched my cue since. Sometimes I hate the pool gods.
My first idea was to push to the foor rail, taking away the bottom of the ball from my opponent, sorta around A in your diagram. I was hoping to get some better/different ideas. It looks like I need to work on myjump shot.
AZB comes through again. Nice posts guys. I should do this more often.
Since I kick pretty good, I'm pushing out to a kick shot. I have three choices. I can push out to the left corner of the bottom of the rack in line with the 8-10 about one diamond off the bottom rail. Then kick it one rail into the side pocket.
Or, I can push up to nearer to the two and then kick it off the side rail into the side or safe.
Or, I can shoot the two into the one, leaving the one on the end rail. From there I can kick the one safe, or only leave a bank shot.
None of the three are easy to do, but that's the purpose of a push shot. You want to leave something you think you can do, but your opponent can't do.
It all depends on the skill level of your opponent. If he won't shoot at anything that isn't "open", you could just push out to the 3 ball, and then shoot the one three rails around the 5 stopping the cb on the 2.
If you are good at off angle combos, you could set up for the 1-5 combo.
If you are playing a real good player, odds are if you let him see any of the 1 ball, he will see and take the same shot you were going to do, and then you are no better off than you are now.
Or, I can push up to nearer to the two and then kick it off the side rail into the side or safe.
Or, I can shoot the two into the one, leaving the one on the end rail. From there I can kick the one safe, or only leave a bank shot.
None of the three are easy to do, but that's the purpose of a push shot. You want to leave something you think you can do, but your opponent can't do.
It all depends on the skill level of your opponent. If he won't shoot at anything that isn't "open", you could just push out to the 3 ball, and then shoot the one three rails around the 5 stopping the cb on the 2.
If you are good at off angle combos, you could set up for the 1-5 combo.
If you are playing a real good player, odds are if you let him see any of the 1 ball, he will see and take the same shot you were going to do, and then you are no better off than you are now.