Hey fatboy!!!! Any pictures of ur billiard room n Vegas?

Doesn't surprise me at all. Specially reading another members post some time back when he told the story of when his Father was in WW ll.

The Red Cross was charging soldiers for a piece of writing paper and a small pencil.

I will always donate to the Sally Anne but the Red Cross has been off my list for some time.
 
Ky Boy said:
Red Cross is a sham.

True story...

Tornado hit here 2 years ago and Red Cross showed up. My mother is a physicians assistant so she jumped in to help and provide medical treatment to those injured as the local hospital also sustained severe damage.

A couple Walmart trucks showed up with food, water, and blankets as many lost their home. The Red Cross folks told the trucks to leave as their items were not wanted, needed, or approved for distribution. To say the local town was appalled by the Red Cross actions are a severe understatement.

Fortunately, my wife's aunt was a principal at one of the local elementary schools who asked that items be delivered there and assured they would be distributed as needed.

Despicable!!
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That's an eye opener! Never ceases to amaze me what I learn on this forum. There is a LOT of cumulative knowledge on display here. Thanks!
P.S. You know what they say, "Two heads are better than one, but five heads are a lot better than two!"
 
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Ky Boy said:
Red Cross is a sham.

True story...

Tornado hit here 2 years ago and Red Cross showed up. My mother is a physicians assistant so she jumped in to help and provide medical treatment to those injured as the local hospital also sustained severe damage.

A couple Walmart trucks showed up with food, water, and blankets as many lost their home. The Red Cross folks told the trucks to leave as their items were not wanted, needed, or approved for distribution. To say the local town was appalled by the Red Cross actions are a severe understatement.

Fortunately, my wife's aunt was a principal at one of the local elementary schools who asked that items be delivered there and assured they would be distributed as needed.

Despicable!!
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several google searches and im coming up empty on that. What town was it and link if you have it.
 
Ky Boy said:
Red Cross is a sham.

True story...

Tornado hit here 2 years ago and Red Cross showed up. My mother is a physicians assistant so she jumped in to help and provide medical treatment to those injured as the local hospital also sustained severe damage.

A couple Walmart trucks showed up with food, water, and blankets as many lost their home. The Red Cross folks told the trucks to leave as their items were not wanted, needed, or approved for distribution. To say the local town was appalled by the Red Cross actions are a severe understatement.

Fortunately, my wife's aunt was a principal at one of the local elementary schools who asked that items be delivered there and assured they would be distributed as needed.

Despicable!!
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That IS despicable ! Sounds like the Red Cross may have made (ahem) OTHER arraingements..wink,wink !..The things that go on in a disaster, are often very hard to justify !..I'm sure most people know how little of every dollar donated (like pennies), ever really get to the needy !

The administrative costs of the Red Cross, and most charities, are a travesty.. They have people in upper and middle management, making thousands, often tens of thousands, more than private sector salaries for the same job !..And, they don't even have to worry about profit and loss, like a real business..Almost all charities are suspect in that regard...Despicable AND sad !
 
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SJDinPHX said:
That IS despicable ! Sounds like the Red Cross may have made (ahem) OTHER arraingements..wink,wink !..The things that go on in a disaster, are often very hard to justify !..I'm sure most people know how little of every dollar donated (like pennies), ever really get to the needy !

The administrative costs of the Red Cross, and most charities, are a travesty.. They have people in upper and middle management, making thousands, often tens of thousands, more than private sector salaries for the same job !..And, they don't even have to worry about profit and loss, like a real business..Almost all charities are suspect in that regard...Despicable AND sad !
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Dick, you and I know that we live in a corrupt and greedy world, and this greed permeates almost all aspects of the human existence. That's the reality of life on planer Earth NOW! Maybe in 10,000 years we will evolve into a higher form of life, or we could just become extinct. :eek:
 
SJDinPHX said:
That IS despicable ! Sounds like the Red Cross may have made (ahem) OTHER arraingements..wink,wink !..The things that go on in a disaster, are often very hard to justify !..I'm sure most people know how little of every dollar donated (like pennies), ever really get to the needy !

The administrative costs of the Red Cross, and most charities, are a travesty.. They have people in upper and middle management, making thousands, often tens of thousands, more than private sector salaries for the same job !..And, they don't even have to worry about profit and loss, like a real business..Almost all charities are suspect in that regard...Despicable AND sad !
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This is the most gross post in this thread....
...well, it was #144....:cool:

We just had a cancer charity exposed in Toronto....
...they were paying out 11 cents on the dollar.
 
Nostroke said:
several google searches and im coming up empty on that. What town was it and link if you have it.
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http://www.kentucky.com/2012/03/02/2092783/storm-smashes-west-liberty-into.html

Here is one link for you among many others.

A search of West Liberty, Ky Tornado will provide many articles, pics and video. It's about 15 minutes Noth-West from my house. A town due east of me, Salyersville was also hit pretty hard. However, as much damage as both towns sustained I am sure Henry, Indiana sustained much more.

However, it was a terrible week for mega storms in much of the US. And to see goods turned away like that was truly disheartening and pathetic.

Red Cross wanted donations and nothing more. And with those donations they would provide needed items. I hope that all of RC does not operate this way but from u12 it seems to be SOP in 2 such occasions.

Gary
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Doesn't surprise me at all. Specially reading another members post some time back when he told the story of when his Father was in WW ll.

The Red Cross was charging soldiers for a piece of writing paper and a small pencil.

I will always donate to the Sally Anne but the Red Cross has been off my list for some time.
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They charged my dad for coffee when he served as well.

Like I said - people ought to think before they want to string Eric or any businessman up. Most don't have a clue how most things are run in this world, or simply don't want to believe it.

How about Goodwill -- people donate items and then they SELL them. All non profit. What a tremendous business model......oh and the CEO of that organization only makes about 2.3 million a year in salary plus retirement & expenses.

Then you have the chief of police of St Louis that was forced to resign. He still got his pension and paid out 83 weeks in sick pay that he never used.
 
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Why is this thread still in the main forum? It should have been moved to NPR a long time ago. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, just share it off the main page.
 
Just so I understand.

It's OK what Fat did because it was legal within some set of rules. But the Chief of police who just like any officer who signs on is explicitly given certain benefits regardless of whatever happens to them in their job, is wrong?


watchez said:
They charged my dad for coffee when he served as well.

Like I said - people ought to think before they want to string Eric or any businessman up. Most don't have a clue how most things are run in this world, or simply don't want to believe it.

How about Goodwill -- people donate items and then they SELL them. All non profit. What a tremendous business model......oh and the CEO of that organization only makes about 2.3 million a year in salary plus retirement & expenses.

Then you have the chief of police of St Louis that was forced to resign. He still got his pension and paid out 83 weeks in sick pay that he never used.
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u12armresl said:
Just so I understand.

It's OK what Fat did because it was legal within some set of rules. But the Chief of police who just like any officer who signs on is explicitly given certain benefits regardless of whatever happens to them in their job, is wrong?
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You don't think that the unwritten code wasn't broken and if this guy needed a sick day off here or there, he was never charged for it on his paycheck cause his boss just looked the other way. And the police cry all the time that they can't keep up with the costs of doing their job -- maybe if you weren't allowed to carry over 83 weeks of sick time (I know I sure can't at my job) a lot of the issues would be resolved.
 
punter said:
Since this thread has turned toward religion bashing, at least the Catholic Churches are spending it on nice things, the Jews just spend all of their time counting their money! :grin-square: :eek:
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For lawyers defending all of their child molesting priests??
 
back on "subject", plus a little about the red cross

What eric did wasn't legal, that is why the feds, I believe the justice dept., got involved. He ripped off tens if not hundreds of thousands of people, most of whom were only trying to better themselves. However, his past and apparently current business practices and his ego have almost nothing to do with my dislike of him. He earned every bit of that in direct dealings with me.

Some things have been said about talking about him behind his back or in a thread he isn't engaged in, he has done the same to me many times. Turn about fair play! I'm always willing to say far worse to his face as he and I both know so big whoop-te-do.

About the red cross. They have been caught running major campaigns soliciting donations for disasters after they are over when the red cross spent almost zero on the disaster they are using to solicit donations. Many years ago they came to Louisiana with blankets and ice after a hurricane. The cheap blankets were sold for twenty a pop or you went away. I forget what the ice sold for but it was sold too.

I used to donate over ten thousand a year. My original criteria was that a charity had to pass through 85% of the money received. I lowered that to 70% and there still weren't that many charities that could make the cut.

Hu
 
When Eric started his business there were aspects of it that were not legal. He made corrections and the business was 100% legal for many years thereafter. It was the economy that forced him to close it, not that it was illegal.

If we're going to discuss it, lets at least keep it accurate.
 
jay helfert said:
.....I'm glad that religion is good for some people. Unfortunately it also leads to violence and ultimately war for many religious fanatics. Of course we all know that. Anything that separates people is ultimately a bad thing. And that's my opinion like it or not.
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Now you got me started Jay...Sorry if this sounds a bit biased, but so be it !...I know we are not without our sins, given our history of racism, slavery, and Native American abuse. But I would like to think we have moved above and beyond those days, and are at least trying to become more like world citizens.

We are now engaging a radical enemy, who does not WANT to let go of its ancient, horribly flawed religion !..They would force Sharia Law on the world if they could..We are no doubt wrong, in trying to impose democracy on them, when they reject it in every way possible !.. Isn't it VERY obvious, they do not WANT to join the 21st century

It is hard to believe, that any religion can be so filled with hatred, toward ANYONE who is not of their faith.. I think I first learned how to really ''hate" after the horror of 9/11 ! ..No use trying to sugar coat my feelings, as I'm sure they are shared by many..But, I find myself wondering, being as it appears they only want us DEAD!... I say, BRING IT ON...You want éradication, we'll be glad to accommodate you !...We owe you one anyway ! :mad:

PS..I always get carried away on this subject, and I will bring it up every chance I get !....I apologize for the morality of this rant, but NOT for the content !

Note; I know this is NPR stuff, but its a hell of a lot more interesting than talking about Fatboy ! ;)
 
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I don't know their overall record, but the Red Cross gave out money for people affected by Hurricane Rita in 2005, I believe. A single person got $200 and more was given to families. This was in southeast Texas.
 
AtLarge said:
Looks to me like at least 90% of donations to the American Red Cross wind up as aid, with the rest going to administrative expenses and fund raising. Sounds pretty reasonable to me.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/24/pf/donations-charities/
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i love you, Honey - but on this we're gonna have to disagree. we did their books. charities were 30% of our client-base.

creative accounting. that's what the Big 6 (now Big 3), are paid $$$$$$ (6-figures) for.

don't even get me started on churches!
 
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