Hey fatboy!!!! Any pictures of ur billiard room n Vegas?

March of Dimes....10% hits the street
UNICEF....less than 5%
Goodwill....0% goes to the needy
American Red Cross and United Way....big salaries at the top

SALVATION ARMY....93% goes to those who need it
 
Why is this thread still in the main forum? It should have been moved to NPR a long time ago. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, just share it off the main page.

This is how lemons are turned into lemonade....
 
March of Dimes....10% hits the street
UNICEF....less than 5%
Goodwill....0% goes to the needy
American Red Cross and United Way....big salaries at the top

SALVATION ARMY....93% goes to those who need it

yes - and THEY get my donations. i should have been clear on that. thank you!

i met 18 mothers.
spousal & child abuse.
inside of 1 year.
(i lost count after 5yrs in the System)
that UNITED WAY - TURNED DOWN - 2yr waiting list....
shelter.
counselling.
returned from whence they came.

(did i bring this full-circle & back to pool-related?)
 
I'm friends with Eric, pretty funny guy if you ask me.

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i love you, Honey - but on this we're gonna have to disagree. we did their books. charities were 30% of our client-base.

creative accounting. that's what the Big 6 (now Big 3), are paid $$$$$$ (6-figures) for.

don't even get me started on churches!

Well, I'm ignorant as to the creative accounting. But I think broad-brush condemnation of the Red Cross is misplaced. I know they have had quite a few controversies and instances of fraud and theft. But they have tens of thousands of employees and hundreds of thousands of volunteers, so manifestations of human greed and corruption will pop up from time to time. Overall, I believe they have done enormous good with their disaster relief in this country and elsewhere.
 
Well, I'm ignorant as to the creative accounting. But I think broad-brush condemnation of the Red Cross is misplaced. I know they have had quite a few controversies and instances of fraud and theft. But they have tens of thousands of employees and hundreds of thousands of volunteers, so manifestations of human greed and corruption will pop up from time to time. Overall, I believe they have done enormous good with their disaster relief in this country and elsewhere.

And in some cases,with the per diems, etc. -- more money goes to the volunteers than to those in need.
 
I haven't read the thread yet, but, I'll bet Fatboy would blush at all the love he must be getting. 168 posts. That's a lot of love.
 
i love you, Honey - but on this we're gonna have to disagree. we did their books. charities were 30% of our client-base.

creative accounting. that's what the Big 6 (now Big 3), are paid $$$$$$ (6-figures) for.

don't even get me started on churches!


Question:

Is there a conflict between an attest, more likely than not fairly stated financial statements opinion, and auditor reclass entries, to more favorably represent that activity?

And if such a conflict exists, in aiding compliance with any tax exempt status requirements...is that conflict patently resolved in favor of the client? To not do so, is to lose the client to another firm that has no ethical problem in creatively reflecting transactions?(or is the auditor signing off on the client's creativity?...or both?)

Or are problem issues glossed over, not rising to the level of reportable significant divergent accounting practices, and therefore not includeable in the issued audited financial report?

These questions are somewhat hypothetical....depends on who's buying lunch...and rounds of golf, and club memberships and.....certified opinions....ah...the way of the world:wink:

ps:How typical is a lateral move by the senior auditor to the client charity controllership/senior staff?

Relevance to Fatboy....directly ...none....
 
Red Cross...

Link to Charity Navigator's (good site), Red Cross page: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=3277

Financial Performance Metrics​

Program Expenses
(Percent of the charity’s budget spent on the programs
and services it delivers) 90.7%

Administrative Expenses 4.0%

Fundraising Expenses 5.1%

Fundraising Efficiency $0.23

Primary Revenue Growth -1.9%

Program Expenses Growth -1.3%

Working Capital Ratio (years) 0.26
 
Question:

Is there a conflict between an attest, more likely than not fairly stated financial statements opinion, and auditor reclass entries, to more favorably represent that activity?

And if such a conflict exists, in aiding compliance with any tax exempt status requirements...is that conflict patently resolved in favor of the client? To not do so, is to lose the client to another firm that has no ethical problem in creatively reflecting transactions?(or is the auditor signing off on the client's creativity?...or both?)

Or are problem issues glossed over, not rising to the level of reportable significant divergent accounting practices, and therefore not includeable in the issued audited financial report?

These questions are somewhat hypothetical....depends on who's buying lunch...and rounds of golf, and club memberships and.....certified opinions....ah...the way of the world:wink:

ps:How typical is a lateral move by the senior auditor to the client charity controllership/senior staff?

Relevance to Fatboy....directly ...none....

you and i have probably met -

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In my neck of the woods we have a Hospice Group with about (5) thrift stores
scattered within a 30 mile radius. These folks have a large complex where
they care for dying cancer patients at very low or no cost. Most of their staff
at the stores are Volunteers. We donate exclusively to them and S.A.

Our local Animal Outreach (cat rescue) is mainly volunteers also.
They will receive an endowment when I pass from this life.
 
In my neck of the woods we have a Hospice Group with about (5) thrift stores
scattered within a 30 mile radius. These folks have a large complex where
they care for dying cancer patients at very low or no cost. Most of their staff
at the stores are Volunteers. We donate exclusively to them and S.A.

Our local Animal Outreach (cat rescue) is mainly volunteers also.
They will receive an endowment when I pass from this life.

i love & respect & donate to Hospice - and EVERYthing they do.

but for those who are NOT volunteers (BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS), they are paid $20-$25/hr. no benefits, cause they are contract labor.
 
Well, I'm ignorant as to the creative accounting. But I think broad-brush condemnation of the Red Cross is misplaced. I know they have had quite a few controversies and instances of fraud and theft. But they have tens of thousands of employees and hundreds of thousands of volunteers, so manifestations of human greed and corruption will pop up from time to time. Overall, I believe they have done enormous good with their disaster relief in this country and elsewhere.

Nice of you to defend the Red Cross..With their massive volunteer network, they have done some good at times.. But I can't believe ANYONE thinks 91% of their donations, actually get to the needy.. It is probably the most corrupt charity on earth. They recieve billions in donations, and volunteer services, with very little (if any) accountability... They are just like Vegas, in its prime mob days (and also the Vatican)...The ones at the top, get 'First Count' ! :rolleyes:

You need to dig a little deeper, rather than just google the figures that those entities provide to Wikipedia !
 
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Nice of you to defend the Red Cross..With their massive volunteer network, they have done some good at times.. But I can't believe ANYONE thinks 91% of their donations, actually get to the needy.. It is probably the most corrupt charity on earth. They recieve billions in donations, and volunteer services, with very little (if any) accountability... They are just like Vegas, in its prime mob days...They get 'First Count' ! :rolleyes:

You need to dig a little deeper, rather than just google the figures that THEY provide to Wikipedia !

hey, hey - we LIKE AtLarge..! :lovies:
be nice, Dick....

the Red Cross does some good.
ALL charities do MORE, than NOTHING.
but they are a BUSINESS....shielded better than we.

<20% goes directly to aid, generally speaking.
 
Nice of you to defend the Red Cross..With their massive volunteer network, they have done some good at times.. But I can't believe ANYONE thinks 91% of their donations, actually get to the needy.. It is probably the most corrupt charity on earth. They recieve billions in donations, and volunteer services, with very little (if any) accountability... They are just like Vegas, in its prime mob days...They get 'First Count' ! :rolleyes:

You need to dig a little deeper, rather than just google the figures that THEY provide to Wikipedia !

I know that you weren't directing your post to me, but, as a matter of fact, I neither believe nor defend anyone. When I can't do the digging myself I use the data available and weigh it accordingly.

Actually the fraudulent numbers that I posted were those that were reported to the IRS. :wink:

J
 
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Mouth taped at 10PM?

Seems a mite bit early to me.


I'll be right back. I gotta run to Home Depot for more duck tape. I'm fresh out and I sense Pinky is about to go into full AZ quack mode.

My brethren, I want brownnose points for the immense patience for making it past our 3rd date (which will be censored).

I've decided to start a non-profit for my therapy fund. Please donate to
www.KK9'sducktapefund@payapal.com. Many thanks (and I promise to spend 100%).
 
Nice of you to defend the Red Cross..With their massive volunteer network, they have done some good at times.. But I can't believe ANYONE thinks 91% of their donations, actually get to the needy.. It is probably the most corrupt charity on earth. They recieve billions in donations, and volunteer services, with very little (if any) accountability... They are just like Vegas, in its prime mob days (and also the Vatican)...The ones at the top, get 'First Count' ! :rolleyes:

You need to dig a little deeper, rather than just google the figures that those entities provide to Wikipedia !

1. "They have done some good at times." understatement
2. "It is probably the most corrupt charity on earth." overstatement
3. "They are just like Vegas, in its prime mob days..." overstatement
4. I didn't post anything about the Red Cross from Wikipedia.
 
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