Get Rid of that Measle Ball!

Fast Lenny

Fast Lenny

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After watching Karl Boyes have cue ball cleaned nearly every rack and sometimes twice. I have watched a bunch of the matches the past few days from the World 9 Ball Championships and if you added all the cue ball cleaning during all the others it would not even come close. Lets just say he lost some fans, probably a few hundred easily.

Here is my solution for them to stop using this stupid training ball in pro events, it grabs chalk more then any other cue ball. Not sure why people are playing with this ball that was just used on ESPN to show spin to viewers many years ago but everyone jumped on it. It is time a cue ball is made that has a coating that resist holding chalk better without spots all over it, it is diseased! Players should demand that and the masses will buy that cue ball because it will be the best, a no or lower skid cue ball that has higher resistance to chalk. There could be more chalk sticking with the new chalks that are supposed to stick to your tip better but that also means more on the cue ball. There is no guarantees because skids are not always caused by the chalk and a bad stroke I believe.

You can send me a royalty check or thank me when it comes out. Leave the measle ball to ESPN, pool instructors and the carnival gaff pool tables.
 
Why get rid of it when Karl was the only one abusing the cleaning.
Just institute some guidelines to prevent this. The ref should have
put an end to it right then.
 
itsfroze said:
Why get rid of it when Karl was the only one abusing the cleaning.
Just institute some guidelines to prevent this. The ref should have
put an end to it right then.
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Karl was abusing it and had it cleaned more then all the other matches combined I watched but nonetheless that cue ball picks up chalk more then others I believe which causes skidding. The ball is a training ball we are using for pro events, why not have something made that doesn't have spots all over it and a coating which is more chalk resistant. The market is wide open so Cyclop or whoever get on it, this is a huge deal. The game is tough enough without skids popping up like a jack in the box.
 
I think they need a clock, watching the Efren match was toxic with grabe or what ever his name is.
 
Fast Lenny said:
Karl was abusing it and had it cleaned more then all the other matches combined I watched but nonetheless that cue ball picks up chalk more then others I believe which causes skidding. The ball is a training ball we are using for pro events, why not have something made that doesn't have spots all over it and a coating which is more chalk resistant. The market is wide open so Cyclop or whoever get on it, this is a huge deal. The game is tough enough without skids popping up like a jack in the box.
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Yeah, but it sure looks perdy spinnin' all over the table huh ?!? :rolleyes:
Kill the measle ,.... adopt the red circle !
 
i hate measle ball too. i actually bring my own cue ball, an aramith red rot - the one with the tiny red dot. if there's an aramith with no dot, i'd use that.
 
It was made for freaking 3-cushion.
Not pool.
It plays frkn heavy and is annoying.

Red circle any day.
 
Sounds reasonable to simply return to using a Standard Cue Ball.
I have never understood the "attraction" to the Spotted Wonder Ball.
 
Why would Saluc make the measles ball differently than the red dot ball?
Wouldn't it be the same material and weight?
Has anyone checked with Saluc, or weighed the balls on a scale?
Is this all maybe in your head?

The cleaning ritual could have been controlled by the ref.

I suppose they should have used Brunswick Centennials instead. (For those of you in the know, that was a joke.....)
 
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I think the reason they are used so often, is its a way for tournament operators to make an attempt to standardize the cue balls used all over the country. I've never seen a aramith six dot roll funny in any way. Maybe the previous poster was playing with a knock off?
 
Pool's present condition is like an episode of 'The Twilight Zone'

I agree, what a mess "someone" has made......

I don't know which is worse, the "Dweezle Ball" or the "Magical Rack" - they both are horrible and have turned the game into something best suited for a carnival game......stuffed animals anyone? :wink:

It seemed like some kind of sick joke to see the pros playing with a "practice cue ball".....when I came back (after 8 years) to see what had happened to this great game it was like an episode of 'The Twilight Zone'


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Straightpool_99 said:
I HATE the measle ball, and I always have! I don't like the way it looks, I don't like the way it plays and I don't like how it vacuums up every piece of chalk on the table and tip. Most of all I hate how it goes flat in certain spots, which I learned about in this forum and then later witnessed for myself. I actually thought it was the table or cloth that made the ball "settle" weirdly, but no, it was the freakin' ball. Did I mention how much I hate it?

I prefer the blue circle that came with the Centennial set, heck even the one from the standard aramith set is preferable to the diseased POS ball that I'm forced to play with now.

Also players should be warned when they are abusing the cleaning privileges. Why, oh why must the players always try to murder any entertainment that can be had while watching pool? Maybe Strickland is right after all: 20 second shot clocks is looking more and more enticing as the years go by, maybe one time out per rack. Cueball should be cleaned at the referees discretion between racks IMHO. I wonder why pool ends up with all the stalling idiots, when snooker, a patently slow game has so few of them. When watching snooker the game usually goes along nicely (Ebdon being the universally hated exception to this rule). If you switch to watching pool, you wonder to yourself why that guy is staring at an obvious layout for a minute or more, or interrupting his preshot routine every other shot.
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What have you been playing with for the last 30 years? Certainly NOT the measel ball.

It is heavier than the other balls in a set...Aramith or Centennials. Its a tad bit heavier than the BW Blue Circle, which means it is basically the heaviest big table ball EVER used.

Albeit that the Red Circle is lighter...and By Red Circle I mean the OLD Hyatt balls. I have 2 I carry around.

You just cant finesse that measel ball and bend it, not to mention forward momentum carom angles change with a heavier ball.

Call me old fashioned, but newer isnt always best. Just because its what they use on TV, doesnt make it right.

To make matters worse, my local joint has FAKE measel balls...talk about a real joy.
 
I use a knock off measles on my Valley bar box. I find that the regular cue ball, which I believe is Teflon coated, gets too much action. Maybe its just my stroke that has too much juice lol.
 
JoeyInCali said:
It was made for freaking 3-cushion.
Not pool.
It plays frkn heavy and is annoying.

Red circle any day.
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Actually, there is a chart that has been posted on here in the past, that showed what cue balls matched up to which Aramith sets with regards to weight, size,and coating. The pro cup (measel) ball matched up to several sets it's sold with. The red circle was actually listed as having the same coating as the Aramith carom sets.
 
Shaft said:
Why would Saluc make the measles ball differently than the red dot ball?
Wouldn't it be the same material and weight?
Has anyone checked with Saluc, or weighed the balls on a scale?
Is this all maybe in your head?

The cleaning ritual could have been controlled by the ref.

I suppose they should have used Brunswick Centennials instead. (For those of you in the know, that was a joke.....)
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The measles ball is different from the red dot because they are made with different resins and go with different sets at different price points. The measles ball is a better ball, made with the Super Aramith Pro resin and is matched to the Super Aramith Pro Cup set. The red dot is a made with the cheaper Premier resin and goes with the Aramith Premier set.

The cue ball equivalent to the measles ball is the red logo ball. This is the ball that goes with the Super Aramith Pro set and is the same ball as the measles ball except for the graphics. The other ball that is identical and would make a good substitute (and here's where I don't get your Brunswick Cents joke) would be the Blue Circle ball, the one that comes with the Brunswick Centennials.

The Red Circle ball is Aramith's generic cue ball, often used as a replacement. Unlike the three balls mentioned made with the Super Aramith Pro resin, it is made with the Super Aramith resein (not the Super Aramith PRO resin). It does not come standard with any ball set Aramith makes.

And yes, the above information is straight from Aramith.

As for weighing different cue balls, it largely means nothing. All Aramith balls are regulation - between 5.5 and 6.0 oz. The better sets are matched (Super Pros, Tournaments, and Centennials), meaning all the balls in the set are matched at the factory for weight, size, and color. But once you replace the cue ball, even with an identical model, all bets are off because it wasn't matched at the factory to the other balls. This is why any discussion of the measles playing different than the red logo or blue circle is usually meaningless. Even in a matched set, over time the balls will begin to vary in weight, usually with the cue ball being lighter than the others. So it doesn't matter if a particular Blue Circle weighs more or less than a given Measles ball. What matters most in how it plays (assuming the same resin as the object balls) is whether the CB is heavier, lighter, or the same as the object balls in the set.
 
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