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I am sure the prize winner will be happy with their prize. If not I am sure you will be the first in line if it is offer to be given away, as you lust for a JB CASE don't you?

Actually no, Poodle Brain. I don't lust for anything in life. If I want something, within reason, I just buy it.

Unlike yourself, I am not the type to stand in line for an hour if they are giving away Free Hot Dogs.

Quite sure that you are the kind that would blow half a day waiting in line to get a Free Key Chain. From the Political Party that you don't even vote for.
 
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Actually no, Poodle Brain. I don't lust for anything in life. If I want something, within reason, I just buy it.

Unlike yourself, I am not the type to stand in line for an hour if they are giving away Free Hot Dogs.

Quite sure that you are the type that would blow half a day waiting in line to get a Free Key Chain. From the Political party that you don't even vote for.

Hey Terry, knock it off with the poodle bashing! ;) I have one of those (apricot poodle) and she's quite a smart dog. I sometimes swear she knows what the wife and I are talking about, even beyond the magic words for food, going outside for a walk, etc.

Now if you said "beagle brain," that might carry some weight. :p

-Sean <-- running for cover from the beagle owners
 
Sure you can call of a bet. But to do that, wouldn't you have to communicate first, with the person you bet with? What John did instead was post in ONE thread, that all side bets were off. So if you didn't happen to read the post before the match, you still thought you had a bet going with John. Where I come from, that's simply not cool.

I see what you are saying, but when someone bets and it is confirmed by the other party, it isn't necessarily up to them to cancel the bet. The other person should decide whether they are allowed to cancel or let them out at a buyout. Now there are certain bets that a cancel may be warranted like say for instance (the game is not played)...then it's understandable.

If I recall (correct me if this is wrong), the bets were cancelled because a thread or even threads were deleted so he was frustrated with that and decided to cancel...nothing to do with the match actually being played or not. Some of the guys in the action thread are easy going dudes so they probably didn't overly care as they were looking to just sweat a little action...still others may feel differently. I didn't have any money on it so I can't speak for them, but there are some valid and invalid reasons that a bet should be allowed to be cancelled imo. Having a thread or two deleted is sort of meh in that area...just an opinion.
 
Yeah well, you can't even spell, B A C O N, around my Papillon.

I know Sean, but I didn't want to offend Coco by naming something that had a brain tinier than a small doggy.

Rats are quite intelligent too.
 
Yeah well, you can't even spell, B A C O N, around my Papillon.

I know Sean, but I didn't want to offend Coco by naming something that had a brain tinier than a small doggy.

Rats are quite intelligent too.

Hey now, we own 3 papillons and they are actually VERY smart lol! Let's put it like this...one of them is bell trained to go potty and will occasionally ding the bell causing the other two to run to the door thinking they are going outside...just so he can run back and steal the bone one of them was chewing :grin:
 
I see what you are saying, but when someone bets and it is confirmed by the other party, it isn't necessarily up to them to cancel the bet. The other person should decide whether they are allowed to cancel or let them out at a buyout. Now there are certain bets that a cancel may be warranted like say for instance (the game is not played)...then it's understandable.

If I recall (correct me if this is wrong), the bets were cancelled because a thread or even threads were deleted so he was frustrated with that and decided to cancel...nothing to do with the match actually being played or not. Some of the guys in the action thread are easy going dudes so they probably didn't overly care as they were looking to just sweat a little action...still others may feel differently. I didn't have any money on it so I can't speak for them, but there are some valid and invalid reasons that a bet should be allowed to be cancelled imo. Having a thread or two deleted is sort of meh in that area...just an opinion.

I agree with that Spimp, I was only giving John the benefit of the doubt on cancelling. Rather than dwell on the cancel itself, I thought not contacting the people directly was a far worse offense.

As for the thread being deleted, I don't know. All I know is it that he cancelled our bet within the same thread we made it, and did not have the decency to contact me about it. Based on my past interactions with John and his wild claims, I can only blame myself for betting with him in the first place.
 
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all I got to say about that!

I can answer that one Chris.

Blue Harleys are better than Red ones.

Red, its a good color for Fire Trucks and the color of blood.

Speaking of Blood. Red plastic or red on certain fishing lures can signal that a fish is wounded. Easy prey.

See, both colors are good. Just so happens that Blue is better.

I will be coming out with a new Aiming System DVD soon. TOB. Touch of Blue.


Ever see Electroglide in Blue? It didn't work out so well for Mickey!

Hu
 
taking offers on a JB Rugged Case

Leather comes from animals? Really?

Thanks Hu, I never knew that. You're just a fountain of information. Tell us again how you yourself have tanned leather. Show us some pictures please. We are all on the edge of our seats to see you in action, even if it was a hundred years ago. Show us those pictures of you killing a bear with a boy scout knife and then skinning it and tanning it with your urine.

Then show us the pictures of the saddle you made with that bear skin and how you singlehandlely drove a 1000 head across two states bringing them all safely to the stockyard. Then show us how you drove the train taking them cows to slaughter in Chicago where you single handley killed them all and skinned them.

And of course after that you butchered them all by yourself and packed those thousand hides on your shoulder down to St. Louis where the good folks at Hermann Oak stood aside while you taught them proper methods of tanning.

Please show us Hu, please sir. Please Uncle Hu tell us another story, please.



OK People, start making me offers on a JB Rugged Case! If the offer gets high enough I'll make John reply.

John, you can tan with brains, you don't need piss. No wonder your cases stink!

Hu
 
The Natives up North still tan hides with smoke and urine.

I have always lived by the rule. Don't pee on the trail that you travel on or your moccasins
will smell.
 
this was one piece

that's because it's "bicast" leather. all the shit parts of the hyde that can't be used for anything cause they have so many natural markings (bites, barbwire), get grinded it into leather dust. mix it with glue. pour it out & roll it to 2mm (or thicker for a hard hyde). spray paint it with color. let it dry (normally china doesn't let it cure long enough cause the idiots set furniture outside under tarps during monsoon season), and then ship it here while it mildews on the containers for 45 days. yes, you can literally tear it with your bare hands.

the finest hydes in the world come from Italian & South American cows. graded via computer analysis, cut @ 8-18mm, & tanned to spec. only full & pure anilines; no semi anilines. only A & B grades; no C's. then shipped to whomever for production of high-end items.

you can almost always tell a chinese hyde - by smell, or the fact that it can't "take" a PURE WHITE color (always ivory or cream).

having said all this, vinyl has come a long, long way & is increasingly more difficult to discern against leather.



The pieces that were garbage were one piece leather, had longer tissue in the tear that the ground up stuff doesn't have. The two most likely causes of this garbage are either botched tanning spending too long in the vats or using some very nasty chemicals or maybe salvage hides, my guesses. I'm sure you know that besides rottening in shipping, hides are often salvaged off of animals that die on the range or from other unplanned causes. Some of those hides should never have been salvaged and I suspect might be the source of some of this junk leather.

I don't know anything at all about high end pretty leather and not much about quality working leather. Fooled with horses years ago, working cow horses, cutting horses, and running horses among others. Junk leather that was supposed to be good could get somebody hurt or killed. All looked the same to my eye until a load was put on it. Two inch or wider heavy girth straps that tore when a horse was bucking or a cow hit the end of a rope were an attention getter!

Cheap leather, cheap steel, cheap most things you generally get what you pay for. What really annoys me is paying a high price and thinking you bought the real deal and find you bought garbage!

I agree about vinyl. I like real leather, vinyl will never match the smell of old leather well cared for. Never match the comfort either in my opinion. However heavy good quality vinyl over nylon can be good looking and a lot safer than leather of unknown quality. I assume the materials are vinyl and nylon, all manmade anyway.

Hu
 
Lol.

.........

And another quip from the peanut gallery that has no idea of an inside joke between Terry and I.

Nice dip of the cards, twit. I'd recommend you get a Facebook account to know what we're talking about, but then you'd have to reveal who you are.

-Sean
 
more fun

I'll give you a nickel if you pick up shipping.



More fun to see how creatively I can destroy it and post video! Pretty sure I got stiffed on some fancy wood I won years ago because the site owners knew I would destroy it and post pictures or video. Still got a nice prize I had more use for so no whine coming.

Hu
 
Hey Terry, knock it off with the poodle bashing! ;) I have one of those (apricot poodle) and she's quite a smart dog. I sometimes swear she knows what the wife and I are talking about, even beyond the magic words for food, going outside for a walk, etc.

Now if you said "beagle brain," that might carry some weight. :p

-Sean <-- running for cover from the beagle owners

True story - I was bitten once by a lady's poodle which got out of her fence, ran across the street and bit me on my leg.

A week later the dog dropped dead.
 
When our mother threatened to tan our hides, we just stopped doing what we were doing.
I remain ignorant of the tanning process to this day.
 
True story - I was bitten once by a lady's poodle which got out of her fence, ran across the street and bit me on my leg.

A week later the dog dropped dead.

Now that's some serious reverse-rabies! ;) :p

-Sean
 
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