Martin referred the seller to the world. You inherently absorb blowback if said seller is a liar who avoids the consequences....
Deal gone bad on superior cues site
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Martin referred the seller to the world. You inherently absorb blowback if said seller is a liar who avoids the consequences....
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Consider this!!!
You "OWN" 2 hundred and 22 pool cues. You are bound to have a cue that meets Pooky's requirement for weight without a weight bolt. You have a running tab with Ohmen pool cues and could easily swap out the cue for one that is acceptable.
BUT
You never answer the phone!!!
You never offer "Any" assistance.
You tell the man "Fend for yourself" and "Not my problem"
Many creative things could be worked out if "PROPERLY" motivated. Including swaps and deals with several cue dealers and makers in various 3 way trades. All involve "No Money"
BUT
Martin assumes "Nothing" but a full refund is acceptable! He knows a full refund is the right of pooky. Pooky needs and wants a cue that he can rely on and keep forever! He makes money here and there playing and the right cue is going to be worth its weight in gold to him!!! Martin could turn lemons into lemonade. But, you cant make lemonade if the guy hides and avoids the issue!!!
KD
It was on Martins web site, and yes I would say Martin profited from pookster buying this cue. Cause Don bought on from Martin why else was Dons cue on Martins web site? Just out of kindness of his heart. Yea rite.
Martin should show proof of the threatening texts or voicemails...
To me, this is the most disturbing part of this whole deal...
If Martin lied about the whole account concerning his interaction with Pookster, just to excuse himself from any further involvement in this deal.
He needs to post again and show these accusations are true...cause I can't understand why he's not trying to help the OP otherwise...
It's in his best interest to make this deal right..or at least make the buyer feel like he's trying to help resolve the situation...wow..no bueno
To me, this is the most disturbing part of this whole deal...
If Martin lied about the whole account concerning his interaction with Pookster, just to excuse himself from any further involvement in this deal.
He needs to post again and show these accusations are true...cause I can't understand why he's not trying to help the OP otherwise...
It's in his best interest to make this deal right..or at least make the buyer feel like he's trying to help resolve the situation...wow..no bueno
I still haven't figured out why a metal weight bolt is verboten but 99.999999999999% of all other cues on earth have a bolt above the handle and also at the joint. :scratchhead:
Sorry, but there's got to be more to this story than what's posted here. Martin and Don R both just stop talking his calls....come on. Most of you guys won't know Don R and I personally do not either, but he's from my hometown and I do know of him. This sounds very surprising based on what I have heard about him. Take it how you will, but loosely translated....he don't need to scam somebody for $$. I also can't imagine Martin not engaging Don to try to clean this up....unless something really bad happened with the prior communication and it got personal. Just doesn't make sense otherwise. Martin wouldn't risk his reputation over a deal he's 0% financially involved in. To think otherwise is just stupid. Hope they fix this. This is so f'ing silly.
Sorry, but there's got to be more to this story than what's posted here. Martin and Don R both just stop talking his calls....come on. Most of you guys won't know Don R and I personally do not either, but he's from my hometown and I do know of him. This sounds very surprising based on what I have heard about him. Take it how you will, but loosely translated....he don't need to scam somebody for $$. I also can't imagine Martin not engaging Don to try to clean this up....unless something really bad happened with the prior communication and it got personal. Just doesn't make sense otherwise. Martin wouldn't risk his reputation over a deal he's 0% financially involved in. To think otherwise is just stupid. Hope they fix this. This is so f'ing silly.
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Bryan,
If you have a website that sells cues and you list a cue you are not selling, don't have in your possession, have never seen and can't verify, YOUR reputation is on the line if the real seller screws someone. There really is no upside for you and a possible huge downside.
If your going to list a cue on your website, you are putting your reputation on the line so make sure the cue passes through your hands.
Sean it's usually the people who are better off who
are really tight with money. So him being well to do kind
of doesn't sound good for a excuse. Sorry just saying its the
average joe that usually isn't so tight. LOL
Of course...and that's not an excuse. But, there's got to be more than meets the eye here. This is just too bizarre what's been presented.
If I was Pooky and Don accused me of putting a weight bolt in the cue when I didnt and refused to give me my money back, I'd be MFing the world as well. It's Martin's job to sit there and listen to it and take it like a MAN or at least text Pook to tell him to call back when he calms down.
To NEVER take his call almost implies he had a hand in what happened. It's that bizarre. Inconceivable.
I have no dog in the fight. Martin is not completely blameless. Pookster should not have gifted the money. He probably did out of respect that the cue was listed on Superior cues site. Don should return the money and at this point pay shipping.
I have to say the number of people on here that are so quick to judge are very entertaining.
Good luck Pookster,
John
I have to say the number of people on here that are so quick to judge are very entertaining.
Good luck Pookster,
John
That's what most of us would like to see. :thumbup:
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Einstein was right about that. The way the wanted/fs section on here is/isn't ran is a joke to me but how the action room is ran is a lot more responsible.
Excuse my ignorance, but, if a cue hits absolutely amazing, what does it matter if there is weight bolt? Without looking, can one determine if a cue has one or not?
I think the op should get a refund for not getting what he was told, but really? A weight bolt? Please school me.
I think the op should get a refund for not getting what he was told, but really? A weight bolt? Please school me.
S, this is SILLY, however, based on what's stated the OP didn't receive what he bargained for, isn't satisfied and should be placated. We can't exonorate the seller (s) based on circumstances/facts we aren't privvy to. Once allegations are levied the ball is in the sellers court to present their side of the story or live with the consequences.
pimpin ain't easy ( was once upon a time)
It's verboten because the guy buying the cue decided it was verboten. And he made it explicitly clear in his pre purchase discussions.
Why can't you imagine it about Martin? He's failed to stand behind the cues he sells before,why would it be difficult to imagine he'd fail again?
No question, assuming Martin indeed had the caveats and disclaimers posted on his web site regarding this sale, he would not be liable were he taken to court. Regardless of the disclaimers and caveats, by posting the cue for sale on his site, at minimum there is an implication he vouched for the Seller. It's rather obvious the majority of the people on this thread agree with that. Since he has numerous cues posted for sale on this site all the time, you would think he would go to the trouble of fixing this problem. The fact that he hasn't speaks volumes IMHO.
I just don't like the cue with weight bolt in the butt...what can I say...That's just my sickness and you can think that martin is not wrong all you want but he was ignoring my phone call the whole time but before then he use to pick up my call so you tell me what is he hiding?
What I think really happen is that Don bought a cue from martin and somehow he change his mind and ask to return the cue but martin offer to sell the cue for him on his site so He doesn't have to refund the money to don and Don can use that money to buy more cue from martin
Martin text me that he sold several cues to don before so Don has be one of martin top customer and that's prob why martin don't want to bug don so he won't be pissed and keep buying cues from martin.
But what about me? I bought several item from him also but I prob didn't spend as much as Don and that's prob the reason why he's siding with don but I am a customer though
And I just decide to take the cue out of the tube again to check the weight and it's all wrong! Don told me the butt weight 15.5 oz and both shafts weight 4.0 oz but they're not!
The actual weight of the butt is 15.3 oz and both shafts weight 3.7 oz so this Don guy lies about the whole cue so he can get rid of it! He's a total BS and so is martin!
And also martin stated that I threaten him and harrasing him.I didn't even use any profanity.All I did was asking for him to talk some sense into don and ask him to call me and tell him that don scam me and I trusted his site and that's why I dealt with don cause I thought it was safe.
If Martin can show any prove that I threaten him or harass him by text or voicemail.I will gladly give him $1000 in cash and return this cue to don for free for all the drama and trouble I put them through and I will not log on to AZ website anymore and I shouldn't cause it will show that I am a POS!
But if he can't prove it then I don't think he should log on here and try to sell anymore cues anymore cause he can't be trusted
Oh and one more thing...what would you do if you're martin in this situation? Would you at least pick up my phone and ask me what happen or at least try talking to don?
That's all I have to say sir.You have a wonderful day
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