Mike Dechaine: Are You Sold Yet?

No doubt he has the 2nd best track record in USA.
But at mosconi he won't be playing svb. And if his teammates don't mesh with him that's going to be a major issue.
Anyone know what dechaines mosconi track record ?
 
No doubt he has the 2nd best track record in USA.
But at mosconi he won't be playing svb. And if his teammates don't mesh with him that's going to be a major issue.
Anyone know what dechaines mosconi track record ?

it was posted earlier in the thread and it is abysmal
 
Really a shame that we're only sending three, but kudos to Mike for attending an overseas WPA Sanctioned major.

No doubt. It is a sad statement that a guy like Bergman does not go and play in it after all his wins and success and after just beating Dennis O in a decent length challenge match.

Big reason pool in the USA is going nowhere.
 
No doubt. It is a sad statement that a guy like Bergman does not go and play in it after all his wins and success and after just beating Dennis O in a decent length challenge match.

Big reason pool in the USA is going nowhere.

In another thread Mike Wong is trying to breakdown the expenses of going to the US Open and he is over $2 K by the time hotels, food, gas, and entry fee are factored in.

Does anyone have information on just how much a player needs to make the trip and play in Qatar?

Bergman should definitely be there, but maybe the expense of the trip is an issue.

Jennifer Beretta told me the BCA used to kick some money to American players playing overseas. It wasn't much but it helped for sure. That has long since stopped.
 
No doubt. It is a sad statement that a guy like Bergman does not go and play in it after all his wins and success and after just beating Dennis O in a decent length challenge match.

Big reason pool in the USA is going nowhere.

Gotta make it to the last 16 to 'maybe' beak even....

Unlike the PGA, pool creates far more losers than winners.

If a player is a 2-1 favorite every match, the odds say he is favored to lose money.
 
In another thread Mike Wong is trying to breakdown the expenses of going to the US Open and he is over $2 K by the time hotels, food, gas, and entry fee are factored in.

Does anyone have information on just how much a player needs to make the trip and play in Qatar?

Bergman should definitely be there, but maybe the expense of the trip is an issue.

Jennifer Beretta told me the BCA used to kick some money to American players playing overseas. It wasn't much but it helped for sure. That has long since stopped.

What's the point of playing those challenge matches for $20,000 and up if you can't use some of it to go to other tournaments? Bergman has made a lot of money gambling this year, I would be appalled if he couldn't afford to go to Qatar. Where does the money go? Does anyone besides Shane invest their money? It sucks because I would love to see Bergman and Hall at the W9B. I hope it's not a money issue and it's something entirely different that's stopping them from going.
 
Airfare has got to be $1000. Then if you have to play qualifiers you're there for two weeks. That's got to be another $2000.
 
What's the point of playing those challenge matches for $20,000 and up if you can't use some of it to go to other tournaments? Bergman has made a lot of money gambling this year, I would be appalled if he couldn't afford to go to Qatar. Where does the money go? Does anyone besides Shane invest their money? It sucks because I would love to see Bergman and Hall at the W9B. I hope it's not a money issue and it's something entirely different that's stopping them from going.

Pool players aren't exactly known for being good with their money. There's still travel expenses, cost of living, and other assorted bills that need to be handled for those that do handle their money well.

Also winning a $20,000 challenge match doesn't mean that player gets the whole lot. Backers are usually involved with that much on the line.
 
I'd like to see MD in some action matches with some of the Philippine or Taiwan guys.

Nah you do not want to !
Mike's probably gonna need a spot from 18 yr old Ko pin Chung, let alone his big brother ko pin yi who will smash him that aint even funny.
Mike's top gun in the US, but always gon be hard playing em Asian monsters.
 
Pool players aren't exactly known for being good with their money. There's still travel expenses, cost of living, and other assorted bills that need to be handled for those that do handle their money well.

Also winning a $20,000 challenge match doesn't mean that player gets the whole lot. Backers are usually involved with that much on the line.

Yes I understand that the player doesn't get all the money and backers usually profit more, but you should still have a good chunk saved up if you're constantly in action. Then again, we don't know how much they lose sometimes, as apposed to hearing about them winning a huge score. Ahhhh, the perks of being a pro. Sorry not sorry.
 
Some players don't like tournaments for a lot of reasons. They don't like waiting around to play. Action matches gets their heart pumping and they play much better than in tournaments. I never was as good in tournaments than I did one on one. I felt in tournaments that I already paid my entry fee and that's all I could lose. In action, it's not over until I run out of money or quit. It's hard to explain. Johnnyt
 
Gotta make it to the last 16 to 'maybe' beak even....

Unlike the PGA, pool creates far more losers than winners.

If a player is a 2-1 favorite every match, the odds say he is favored to lose money.

Still, if you are actually committed to being a "pro pool player" than you need to compete in the top events. Sponsorship and success only come with playing in the top events, honing your game against the best, and winning major titles and getting international recognition.

Bergman has had some big wins that paid well, he had a place on the MC last year and got some money from that, and he will likely be there this year as well. A pro pool player has to take winnings and earning and start to reinvest them into things like the World Championships.

If a player Bergman's caliber has decided not to bother with world championships and the major international events throughout his career they might as well quit pool and go get a job because there is really nowhere to go in this sport without playing at that elite level. He has done anything he will ever do in this sport at this point, and without stepping up to the next level there is no point in staying where he is.
 
Still, if you are actually committed to being a "pro pool player" than you need to compete in the top events. Sponsorship and success only come with playing in the top events, honing your game against the best, and winning major titles and getting international recognition.

Bergman has had some big wins that paid well, he had a place on the MC last year and got some money from that, and he will likely be there this year as well. A pro pool player has to take winnings and earning and start to reinvest them into things like the World Championships.

If a player Bergman's caliber has decided not to bother with world championships and the major international events throughout his career they might as well quit pool and go get a job because there is really nowhere to go in this sport without playing at that elite level. He has done anything he will ever do in this sport at this point, and without stepping up to the next level there is no point in staying where he is.

Scary times, for If American pool continues to evolve in the direction of bar table pool at the pro level, the gap between the top Americans and the top internationals will grow even wider.

PS I think Hall would be more successful than Bergman if they both tried the international circuit.
 
Still, if you are actually committed to being a "pro pool player" than you need to compete in the top events. Sponsorship and success only come with playing in the top events, honing your game against the best, and winning major titles and getting international recognition.

Bergman has had some big wins that paid well, he had a place on the MC last year and got some money from that, and he will likely be there this year as well. A pro pool player has to take winnings and earning and start to reinvest them into things like the World Championships.

If a player Bergman's caliber has decided not to bother with world championships and the major international events throughout his career they might as well quit pool and go get a job because there is really nowhere to go in this sport without playing at that elite level. He has done anything he will ever do in this sport at this point, and without stepping up to the next level there is no point in staying where he is.


There are any number of extremely valid reasons why a pro pool player might decided to pass on any particular event.

Lou Figueroa
 
Scary times, for If American pool continues to evolve in the direction of bar table pool at the pro level, the gap between the top Americans and the top internationals will grow even wider.

PS I think Hall would be more successful than Bergman if they both tried the international circuit.


It's a disaster for American pool if promoters continue to put on bar table events in lieu of 9' table events.

Lou Figueroa
 
It's a disaster for American pool if promoters continue to put on bar table events in lieu of 9' table events.

Lou Figueroa

What's even more scary is when the Europeans and Asians take down the US bar table pro tournaments, then go back to beating US players down on the 9 footers.
(see also 2015 US Open 10-ball and 8-ball - the trend has already started).
 
The fact that Shane's record in MC is also not that good makes this a hypocritical argument for most people.


But...



If you really do want to put stock into their MC results then it is only fitting that you take notice of Johnny Archers record during the last MC that Mike played in, and notice that he went undefeated... meaning Mike is actually a good teammate in spite of the arguments that occurred between he and Johnny.

And if you are going to look at previous results then notice that the last year Mike played was the closets that team USA had came to a victory since 2006, only losing 11 to 9, and you can no longer say he is not a good teammate... if you want to put stock into MC results.

we are talking about mike and only mike. the only thing hypocritical is dragging others into the mix to make a ridiculous point.
 
Mike has just tied for 9th at the WPA World championship. Are you sold yet?
 
Mike has just tied for 9th at the WPA World championship. Are you sold yet?

I was sold the first time you ever posted on here that he was good. I had never heard of him but your word is good enough for me. :)

Since then I've watched what I can on youtube and streaming. Yep. I'm sold.
 
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