★ Aiming Systems ★ Techniques ★ Etc.

Absolutely Agree Completely

If someone is serious about the game as a beginner, it does matter. Pro1 and a few others is the not the correct way to learn to play. Better players can put things in the tool box, beginners have a process they must go through to get a tool box.;)

I agree completely and thank you for your comments.
 
I make videos that address every criticism and show my proof. Just as some aiming system instructors have done.

On this forum some critics were told to put up proof or retract their false statements about my cases. That's exactly how I would handle the critics on the aiming system topics. Put up or shut up.

Basically do your best to demonstrate the issues you claim are there and allow the discussion to deal with those points or just stop poisoning the discussions with accusations that you are not prepared to prove.

The burden of 'proof' is with the one first making a claim about what they are selling. Hence the burden is on the advocates end.

What you continually fail to understand is that what has been claimed as to what IT is can not be proven except by logical rational explanation as it is in the realm of the abstract.

As I have said many many times now, if anyone wants to buy & try IT knowing that the assertion is unproven, then by all means they should do so & have at it & I'll ADD... that I wish them nothing but success.

Thank You, John for the opportunity to make that clear.
 
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So you want me to give you your answer, lol. It's your assertion, where's your proof.
You've been all over Stan for his marketing it should be easy to find your proof.

If it is not asserted to be an objective aiming system, then why all of the defense & hub bub & vitriol when someone says that it is not?

All you are trying to do is divert from the fact that assertions made by the advocates as to what it is has NOT ever been proven.

Best Wishes.
 
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Where does Stan market it as a totally objective system? PROVE THAT. You can't.
Here are a few instances from this month alone:
10-17-2015, 10:00 AM
CTE is a powerful objective visual system
Stan Shuffett
10-13-2015, 05:35 PM
CTE PRO ONE is an objective system.
Stan Shuffett
10-13-2015, 02:23 PM
CTE core equals EXTREME OBJECTIVITY.
CTE PRO ONE is the most objective aiming system in the game. PERIOD!!
Stan Shuffett

pj
chgo
 
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Where does Stan market it as a totally objective system? PROVE THAT. You can't.
Here are a few instances from this month alone:
Quote:
10-17-2015, 10:00 AM
CTE is a powerful objective visual system
Stan Shuffett
Quote:
10-13-2015, 05:35 PM
CTE PRO ONE is an objective system.
Stan Shuffett
Quote:
10-13-2015, 02:23 PM
CTE core equals EXTREME OBJECTIVITY.
CTE PRO ONE is the most objective aiming system in the game. PERIOD!!
Stan Shuffett
pj
chgo

And Stan is 100% right.
 
The burden of 'proof' is with the one first making a claim about what they are selling. Hence the burden is on the advocates end.

What you continually fail to understand is that what has been claimed as to what IT is can not be proven except by logical rational explanation as it is in the realm of the abstract.

As I have said many many times now, if anyone wants to buy & try IT knowing that the assertion is unproven, then by all means they should do so & have at it & I'll ADD... that I wish them nothing but success.

Thank You, John for the opportunity to make that clear.

Stan has proven everything that needs to be proven.
 
If it is not asserted to be an objective aiming system, then why all of the defense & hub bub & vitriol when someone says that it is not?

All you are trying to do is divert from the fact that assertions made by the advocates as to what it is has NOT ever been proven.

Best Wishes.

It is an objective aiming system and Stan has provided and has all the proof needed.
You have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion.
 
It is an objective aiming system and Stan has provided and has all the proof needed.
You have absolutely nothing to back up your opinion.

I have the rational & logical thinking regarding what IS objective & what is NOT objective & hence subjective.

You are the one that has nothing to support your BELIEF other than what has been PREACHED to you & others with no intelligent rational support for what has been PREACHED.

As yesterday, I am NOT going to go into a pointless childish back & forth with you.
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie man View Post
Where does Stan market it as a totally objective system? PROVE THAT. You can't.
Here are a few instances from this month alone:
Quote:
10-17-2015, 10:00 AM
CTE is a powerful objective visual system
Stan Shuffett
Quote:
10-13-2015, 05:35 PM
CTE PRO ONE is an objective system.
Stan Shuffett
Quote:
10-13-2015, 02:23 PM
CTE core equals EXTREME OBJECTIVITY.
CTE PRO ONE is the most objective aiming system in the game. PERIOD!!
Stan Shuffett
pj
chgo

And Stan is 100% right.

Yea right....once again this is the issue with CTE.......statements that are not factual and can not be backed up with any kind of proof other than I so say.

These are nothing more than marketing statements, the type you see on shopping networks and in commercials.

It can not be objective since there is nothing that exists in the real world that anyone can use to aim with. Since it's a visual system you have no idea what each subject that uses CTE sees, therefore makes it subjective. There is nothing in the real world that each of these subjects can use. It's all done through visualization in the minds eye, a very subjective thing. You are assuming everyone is visualing the exact same thing as you which is impossible to know if true. Subjective.

If CTE is objective than so is ghost ball contact patch, as will as any other aiming system out there.

Just post a pic showing the exact spots on the object ball used in CTE, kinda like posting a pic of a rifle with open sights which is a objective aiming system since everyone must use the same front and rear sight to aim.....just show how this type of real world objects to use exist with CTE.

It can't and to keep repeatly stating a blatant false hood that CTE is objective is just to being hard headed.
 
Rick,
I filled up my message box (it's a secret how) so I would not have to discuss your favorite topic with you.

BTW, it's DymondWood or Dymondwood and it's called The Performance Cue. Please don't advertise it for me anymore. I am unable to fulfill the demand as it is already. (And no, I don't want to discuss The Performance Cue with you or anyone else at this time). But thanks anyway.

I understand your points quite well but I just don't care to discuss them with you. No offense meant.

JoeyA

Joey,

How did you fill up your message box so I could not reply, since you wanted to just have YOUR say & not really discuss it?

That's part of the problem.

Some want to say whatever they wish & not have it discussed.

What if I were to say that the cues JoeyA sells are not DiamondWood but are instead made of plastic & hit like crap.

The hit like crap part would be an opinion.

The first part about what they are made of would be a false statement.

I guess you would just sit quietly & let it be known that JoeyA is selling plastic cues as DiamondWood cues.

Same with JB. What if one were to say that his 'leather' cases are not made of real leather but are really vinyl?

I guess he too would sit quietly by & let that be continually said with no confrontation.

I hope both of you can see & understand the points.

Best Wishes.

PS I like the Diamondwood Cue & I think John's cases are the best on the market.
 
Rick,
I filled up my message box (it's a secret how) so I would not have to discuss your favorite topic with you.

BTW, it's DymondWood or Dymondwood and it's called The Performance Cue. Please don't advertise it for me anymore. I am unable to fulfill the demand as it is already. (And no, I don't want to discuss The Performance Cue with you or anyone else at this time). But thanks anyway.

I understand your points quite well but I just don't care to discuss them with you. No offense meant.

JoeyA

Thanks for the correction on the cue, Joey

I understand what you'd like & as I said in the PM, I basically agree with you, but for that one caveat.

But for that, we basically agree.

Best Wishes.

PS It's very very far from my favorite topic, even here on AZB. But... I do think TRUTH is important, very important.
 
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Yea right....once again this is the issue with CTE.......statements that are not factual and can not be backed up with any kind of proof other than I so say.

These are nothing more than marketing statements, the type you see on shopping networks and in commercials.

It can not be objective since there is nothing that exists in the real world that anyone can use to aim with. Since it's a visual system you have no idea what each subject that uses CTE sees, therefore makes it subjective. There is nothing in the real world that each of these subjects can use. It's all done through visualization in the minds eye, a very subjective thing. You are assuming everyone is visualing the exact same thing as you which is impossible to know if true. Subjective.

If CTE is objective than so is ghost ball contact patch, as will as any other aiming system out there.

Just post a pic showing the exact spots on the object ball used in CTE, kinda like posting a pic of a rifle with open sights which is a objective aiming system since everyone must use the same front and rear sight to aim.....just show how this type of real world objects to use exist with CTE.

It can't and to keep repeatly stating a blatant false hood that CTE is objective is just to being hard headed.

Ever had CTE lessons? You buy the DVD? Do you have any kind of real experience with CTE?
 
I said I was not going to do a back & forth with cookie but he keeps pulling me in.

Sorry.

Perhaps Mr. Howerton can flash me a PM once every other day to remind me to not get pulled in.

Why doesn't everyone try to help Mizra, like Joey would like.

Best Wishes.

PS Is there a way to block a thread from view.
 
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How many discussions have we had regarding these threads?
When is enough, enough and I make a final decision regarding the constant friction?

I'm not even going to attempt to make a point over how weary I am of addressing the same complaints for the hundredth time and I don't really think you want to hear it yet again.

What do you think I should do with this regard?
Should I act upon my previous warnings??



Allow me to be clear to others reading this........my admonitions apply to you as well.


The burden of 'proof' is with the one first making a claim about what they are selling. Hence the burden is on the advocates end.

What you continually fail to understand is that what has been claimed as to what IT is can not be proven except by logical rational explanation as it is in the realm of the abstract.

As I have said many many times now, if anyone wants to buy & try IT knowing that the assertion is unproven, then by all means they should do so & have at it & I'll ADD... that I wish them nothing but success.

Thank You, John for the opportunity to make that clear.
 
How many discussions have we had regarding these threads?
When is enough, enough and I make a final decision regarding the constant friction?

I'm not even going to attempt to make a point over how weary I am of addressing the same complaints for the hundredth time and I don't really think you want to hear it yet again.

What do you think I should do with this regard?
Should I act upon my previous warnings??



Allow me to be clear to others reading this........my admonitions apply to you as well.
mr wilson
i have no dog in this race and i have been a good inmate in the azb community
but i fail to understand why you find that post from english offensive???:confused::confused::confused:
 
mr wilson
i have no dog in this race and i have been a good inmate in the azb community
but i fail to understand why you find that post from english offensive???:confused::confused::confused:

Cumulative.

Why the constant friction? Never any common ground.

Sort of like Mom said...if you can't say something nice..........
 
Cumulative.

Why the constant friction? Never any common ground.

Sort of like Mom said...if you can't say something nice..........

Isn't it always the same crowd?

I'm not one to keep statistics, but it doesn't take a genius to figure out why the threads all turn out the same way.
 
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