Straight Pool Runs from Derby

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Here are several runs that have been uploaded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVo0AI-PvNc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me04hK5eXVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG4Lajtfgkc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X8Zb0uMMTo


Prizes at the 2016 DCC George Fels Memorial Straight Pool Challenge:

Daily prizes:

Sunday
Mike Davis (141) $300
Carlo Biado (140) $200
Dennis Orcullo (108) $100

Monday
Konstantin Stepanov (149) $300
Alex Lely (127) $200
Niels Feijen (122) $100

Tuesday
Johnny Archer (179) $300
Dennis Orcullo (154) $200
Thorsten Hohmann (151) $100

Wednesday
Lee Van Corteza (225) $300
John Schmidt (168) $200
Mika Immonen (155) $100

Tournament:
5th-8th -- $900
Lee Vann Corteza
Johnny Archer
Thorsten Hohmann
Mika Immonen

3rd-4th -- $$1800
Mike Davis
Konstantin Stepanov

2nd $3200
John Schmidt

1st $5000
Dennis Orcullo

Highest run
Lee Vann Corteza $1000

Totals:
1 -- Dennis Orcullo 5000+100+200 = $5300
2 -- John Schmidt 3200+200 = $3400
3 -- Konstantin Stepanov 1800+300 = $2100
3 -- Mike Davis 1800+300 = $2100
5 -- Johnny Archer 900+300= $1200
5 -- Lee Vann Corteza 900+300+1000 = $2200
5 -- Mika Immonen 900+100 = $1000
5 -- Thorsten Hohmann 900+100 = $1000
9 – run 140 Carlo Biado $200
10 – run 127 Alex Lely $200
11 – run 122 Niels Feijen $100

5300+3400+2100+2100+1200+2200+1000+1000+200+200+100 = $18,800 total prizes
68 entries at $100 plus $12,000 added = $18,800
 
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jsp said:
Thanks for the links!


Didn't even watch this video yet but simply looked at the video description. Are we really to believe that Lee Van has never played straight pool until that day, and he ran 225 on only his 11th attempt?
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Any ball/ any pocket?
how hard can it be?
:eek:
 
jsp said:
... Are we really to believe that Lee Van has never played straight pool until that day, and he ran 225 on only his 11th attempt?
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Maybe he practiced some before the derby, but I pretty sure that he never played a real match. The day after his qualifying 225, he played a match with Mike Davis and I was present as they explained to him the requirements of the opening break and how most players execute it.
 
Well..,

pdcue said:
Oh, just a few orders of magnitude more than 9 or 10 or 8 Ball

Dale
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Not for the level of shooters that exist today. There are plenty of players that are capable of high runs with little effort.
 
His shot making ability is what got him through those rack but it was luck that go him out. It was kind of possible to see where it was pool experience and not straight pool experience, it makes sense now knowing that it was his first day playing although strange that he has never tried before at this time in his career not to mention a single gambling match.
He's a hell of a shot maker, would love to see him give it a few more tries down the road, HEY do yo guys think now he might signs up for the 14.1 in New York? or maybe even the Maryland? I'm willing to bet he plays in one of them.
 
Even after players that never play 14.1 and run 200-300 balls after very few games beat the best 14.1 players in the world, some of the 14.1 purist still think 14.1 is harder than 9 or 10 ball. Johnnyt
 
jsp said:
Thanks for the links!


Didn't even watch this video yet but simply looked at the video description. Are we really to believe that Lee Van has never played straight pool until that day, and he ran 225 on only his 11th attempt?
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There is an old video of Efren winning a 14.1 tournament, I think he beat Earl in the finals and multiple noted 14.1 players like Steve Mizerak, Johnny Ervolino and Cicero Murphy were in the tournament. More than once Efren had to ask the referee about a rule. He wasn't sure about all the rules but he knew how to make the balls go in the holes.
 
7forlife said:
His shot making ability is what got him through those rack but it was luck that go him out. It was kind of possible to see where it was pool experience and not straight pool experience, it makes sense now knowing that it was his first day playing although strange that he has never tried before at this time in his career not to mention a single gambling match.
He's a hell of a shot maker, would love to see him give it a few more tries down the road, HEY do yo guys think now he might signs up for the 14.1 in New York? or maybe even the Maryland? I'm willing to bet he plays in one of them.
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Dennis Orcollo sort of taught himself straight pool at Derby about 5 years ago. He was in our straight pool room early every morning, just practicing a bit. Then he bought some sheets and kept going. He got better and better at it.

Then he got Warren Kiamco to come in. Warren would shoot and Dennis would tell him what to do. That was ok in practice, but I had to stop them when Warren was officially going for it. Warren got better and better every year and ran a 145 last year.

This year Dennis was showing Carlo Biado some things early on. Showing him break shots. In the past, Carlo tried a little bit, but I think his high was around 70. This year his first two innings were 140 and 108.

I may have seen Lee Vann take an attempt a few years back but maybe not. Someone told him to give it a shot and we figured maybe within a few years he would be putting up good runs, too. We were surprised by how quickly he took to it.

Roberto Gomez was up there trying, too. Probably be putting up some good numbers if he keeps at it.

I think the word is out that they get a pretty good bang for their buck in our event. Lee Van got $1000 for the high run of the event, $300 for high run of the day, and $900 for getting knocked out in the first round. He bought one $100 entry for 12 tries. Dennis Orcullo got $5000 for first place, and daily prize money totaling another $300. He bought two tickets. John Schmidt bought one ticket and got $3200 for second place and $200 in daily prize money. The Europeans, Russians, and the Filipinos know about it. The younger Americans can't be bothered.
 
I am approaching 102% level of certainty that there will not be a md event this year.
7forlife said:
His shot making ability is what got him through those rack but it was luck that go him out. It was kind of possible to see where it was pool experience and not straight pool experience, it makes sense now knowing that it was his first day playing although strange that he has never tried before at this time in his career not to mention a single gambling match.
He's a hell of a shot maker, would love to see him give it a few more tries down the road, HEY do yo guys think now he might signs up for the 14.1 in New York? or maybe even the Maryland? I'm willing to bet he plays in one of them.
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Johnnyt said:
Even after players that never play 14.1 and run 200-300 balls after very few games beat the best 14.1 players in the world, some of the 14.1 purist still think 14.1 is harder than 9 or 10 ball. Johnnyt
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It is an interesting question: if the game is so hard, why are such effective efforts made by players wilth little to no experience in the game?
 
Saturated Fats said:
The day after his qualifying 225, he played a match with Mike Davis and I was present as they explained to him the requirements of the opening break and how most players execute it.
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This is actually pretty funny. To think someone gets instructed how a straight pool match actually begins AFTER he has already run over 200 balls. This must be a first ever in pool history.

In golf, that's like someone teaching you the rules of water hazards after you've already shot a round of 65.
 
Johnnyt said:
Even after players that never play 14.1 and run 200-300 balls after very few games beat the best 14.1 players in the world, some of the 14.1 purist still think 14.1 is harder than 9 or 10 ball. Johnnyt
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Rotation players who are straight pool newbies that can run over a hundred balls after a few attempts does not necessarily prove that 14.1 is an easier game than 9 or 10 ball. What I think it does prove is that these freaks are REALLY REALLY good at pool, no matter the game.

I still think 14.1 is "harder" than 9/10 ball. I put "harder" in quotes because it's tough to objectively compare the difficulty of the two different games.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Dennis Orcollo sort of taught himself straight pool at Derby about 5 years ago. He was in our straight pool room early every morning, just practicing a bit. Then he bought some sheets and kept going. He got better and better at it.

Then he got Warren Kiamco to come in. Warren would shoot and Dennis would tell him what to do. That was ok in practice, but I had to stop them when Warren was officially going for it. Warren got better and better every year and ran a 145 last year.

This year Dennis was showing Carlo Biado some things early on. Showing him break shots. In the past, Carlo tried a little bit, but I think his high was around 70. This year his first two innings were 140 and 108.

I may have seen Lee Vann take an attempt a few years back but maybe not. Someone told him to give it a shot and we figured maybe within a few years he would be putting up good runs, too. We were surprised by how quickly he took to it.

Roberto Gomez was up there trying, too. Probably be putting up some good numbers if he keeps at it.

I think the word is out that they get a pretty good bang for their buck in our event. Lee Van got $1000 for the high run of the event, $300 for high run of the day, and $900 for getting knocked out in the first round. He bought one $100 entry for 12 tries. Dennis Orcullo got $5000 for first place, and daily prize money totaling another $300. He bought two tickets. John Schmidt bought one ticket and got $3200 for second place and $200 in daily prize money. The Europeans, Russians, and the Filipinos know about it. The younger Americans can't be bothered.
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Great infos.
Thanks for sharing.
 
King T said:
There are plenty of players that are capable of high runs with little effort.
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its soooo easy, that this group of bangers tried over 800 times, AND WITHOUT AN OPPONENT AT THE TABLE, and only Lee Vann Corteza (one person) could muster 225.

like falling off a log I guess.


Mike Davis
Carlo Biado
Konstantin Stepanov
Alex Lely
Niels Feijen
Dennis Orcullo
John Schmidt
Johnny Archer
Thorsten Hohmann
Mika Immonen
 
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