There's gonna be dings.
And many of the dings you get on this thing are permanently there.
You're not just going to put some spit on them and buff them out either.
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There's gonna be dings.
And many of the dings you get on this thing are permanently there.
You're not just going to put some spit on them and buff them out either.
But a year ago 12.9mm was the size predator swore was the only one that was tested as best for performance and worthy of being brought to market??? Their representatives also insisted that there were no immediate plans for alternate diameter sizes.
What changed in a year??
Hmmmmm.....
9ballr...You're mistaken. The Revo shaft will NOT ding and will not warp...period.
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
They need to make these so people can tap them to the pin they want. You figure they would release the shaft available for all pins. I guess I will wait for that and the price to drop on it. I tried one out and it was interesting but I need more time with it.
Yeah.......sure...
Warp? No it won't warp.
But the dings and scratches are going to happen.
Good luck getting those out.
But a year ago 12.9mm was the size predator swore was the only one that was tested as best for performance and worthy of being brought to market??? Their representatives also insisted that there were no immediate plans for alternate diameter sizes.
What changed in a year??
Hmmmmm.....
Predator will tell you whatever you want to hear.
Just pay them 500 bucks and they're ready to go.
Hey there Mike, you've been known for your cues n repairs for awhile obviously.
But can i ask if it is possible to screw up a joint change , is it really a straight forward task that is inpossible to screw up by any cuemakers or is ot solely dependent on the individual expertise of the cm's ?
Im worried if not done well, the cue n shaft will not be centered properly ?
Are my worries unfounded ?
Thanks
Dang !
How long have u been using it ?
I thought its ding n warp resistant.
Couple months ago at a competition, carlo biado n roberto gomez was showing me how strong it was by smacking it on the table deliberately lol
Morning Mr. Morales
My direct answer is. Every cue is looked at on an individual basis. You would be shocked as to how many cues do not have joints concentric to the butt, especially stainless joints.
Ex.
Butt spins perfect except for the top 1 to 2 inches at the joint. This is mainly due to the way the cue is held and machined because the joint is the last to get worked before the joint screw is installed. Using collets to hold the cue without checking with an indicator can leave a lot to be desired and wind up with a .005 to .010 variance at the joint. Tuff action. So even though changing a joint screw is fairly easy. It depends on what your starting with.
Did somebody say "Revo BREAK shaft"?
Who here has information on THAT?
Who here has information on THAT?
I do not care how careful you are with your cue, eventually, some how, some way you're going to ding the shaft.
I've been playing for over 40 years. I know how to carefully handle a cue. And I try and take extraordinary care with the two Ginas I play with. But, alas, I have still managed to put dings in the shafts. Dings happen. And I am thankful that I can get them out with a little boiling water and a Q-tip.
With these black shafts... I think you're looking at Bondo.
Lou Figueroa
wood shafts rule
Yes of course.
It's ridiculous to be telling people "it won't ding or scratch".
Geezzz.........and people fall for this?
Is it just because this is yet another product that's supposed to make their game better??? LOL.....
NOTHING can replace hours spent shooting balls.
You can do the exact same thing with any shaft that is straight and has a tip on it. Just practice doing it.
500.00 china made shaft
China has done nothing but struggle to make a solid maple shaft and keep it straight
Of all the cues that come out of china that have solid maple shafts only one or two companies seemed to make solid maple shaft that will stay straight .
Personally I don't believe the china based cue companies had choice but to switch to some other material because they could never get there $hit together making a maple shaft and keeping it straight.
The problem is selling the public on some other material and convincing the public that the new material is better..
The only way to do that was to put the cue in the hands of people who can play pool great with any cue they get handed .
Predator would be out of business if they charge normal price because of the amount of money they spend on advertising .
It also seems to me allot of LD shaft fans have tried and bought allot of the new technology LD shafts over the years ..
I have met people who have 3 or 4 predator or OB shafts sitting in there closet that are warped or delaminated ..
Every year its the same thing, something that is the best , like a 12 .9 mm diameter ferrule and tip , then the next year the same company comes out and says this is now the best .and comes out with a 12.4 mm shaft .
Like they totally forgot any of the things they said the year before.
Or they say O we are using a better grade of maple now, :angry:
Meaning they been using and selling us the cheapest crap they can buy and still make a laminated shaft .
The bottom line is all shaft have deflection ..........................
and just because china cant mass produce solid maple shafts doesn't mean all solid maple shaft will warp or have issue just most of the ones from china has issues.
Straight up , I have never had a solid maple shaft that I have made, that warped or get returned ................................................
I have a arm load of solid maple shafts zero issue ..............
The issue is china, they make things cheap they come up with more fake products then any two nations put together and they lie there @sses off selling there crap .
What China does copying other people work is nothing less then criminal .
It seems China is the major factor why allot pool players think all solid maple shafts warp.
Its because most beginner pool players buy a china made cue in the beginning .
So you have 5 new players with china made cues and all the shafts are warped .
It would be easy to think all solid maple shafts warp , when that isn't the truth .
The truth is most solid maple shafts from china warp and the custom cues made here in the states don't ...
When predator moved there factor from the USA laying off American workers to china hiring unskilled workers you would think the price of predator cues would of gone down , not doubled or tripled or more ..
That seemed pretty anti American to me .
The most warped shaft I have ever chucked up in one of my lathe was a predator shaft ...
It was a total piece of junk ..
The only thing holding the tenon together was bird droppings .
I have made and designed a few things in my life ,, when one of the guys in the shop created something worthless we would make it into a ash tray or anything to embarrass the person who designed and made it..
I can vision a lunch room filled with predator ash trays ..
If I think I need a LD shaft that bad I will make one like I have in the past.
Lets talk the best ,,,, AAA grade maple dowel 15 bucks . Micarta ferrule 45 bucks
Kamui tip 20 bucks .
Collar material 5 bucks and 3 hours of total time cutting the dowel into a shaft over a 18 month time period .
I have used pre cut shaft wood .. shafts that have been gone from a dowel to a shaft in 90 days and still haven't had issues ..
Just because China cant make a solid maple shaft doesnt mean solid maple shaft are low quality materials.
It means some materials cant be rushed and it helps if you have skilled workers
I can buy premium maple shaft dowel wood for 15 bucks a stick all day long and on Sundays too.
China cue maker are too cheap to pay that much for descent shaft material.
If I can make a descent shaft from a 15 dollar piece of maple shaft dowel wood that will not warp why cant china ??
China has done nothing but struggle to make a solid maple shaft and keep it straight
Of all the cues that come out of china that have solid maple shafts only one or two companies seemed to make solid maple shaft that will stay straight .
Personally I don't believe the china based cue companies had choice but to switch to some other material because they could never get there $hit together making a maple shaft and keeping it straight.
The problem is selling the public on some other material and convincing the public that the new material is better..
The only way to do that was to put the cue in the hands of people who can play pool great with any cue they get handed .
Predator would be out of business if they charge normal price because of the amount of money they spend on advertising .
It also seems to me allot of LD shaft fans have tried and bought allot of the new technology LD shafts over the years ..
I have met people who have 3 or 4 predator or OB shafts sitting in there closet that are warped or delaminated ..
Every year its the same thing, something that is the best , like a 12 .9 mm diameter ferrule and tip , then the next year the same company comes out and says this is now the best .and comes out with a 12.4 mm shaft .
Like they totally forgot any of the things they said the year before.
Or they say O we are using a better grade of maple now, :angry:
Meaning they been using and selling us the cheapest crap they can buy and still make a laminated shaft .
The bottom line is all shaft have deflection ..........................
and just because china cant mass produce solid maple shafts doesn't mean all solid maple shaft will warp or have issue just most of the ones from china has issues.
Straight up , I have never had a solid maple shaft that I have made, that warped or get returned ................................................
I have a arm load of solid maple shafts zero issue ..............
The issue is china, they make things cheap they come up with more fake products then any two nations put together and they lie there @sses off selling there crap .
What China does copying other people work is nothing less then criminal .
It seems China is the major factor why allot pool players think all solid maple shafts warp.
Its because most beginner pool players buy a china made cue in the beginning .
So you have 5 new players with china made cues and all the shafts are warped .
It would be easy to think all solid maple shafts warp , when that isn't the truth .
The truth is most solid maple shafts from china warp and the custom cues made here in the states don't ...
When predator moved there factor from the USA laying off American workers to china hiring unskilled workers you would think the price of predator cues would of gone down , not doubled or tripled or more ..
That seemed pretty anti American to me .
The most warped shaft I have ever chucked up in one of my lathe was a predator shaft ...
It was a total piece of junk ..
The only thing holding the tenon together was bird droppings .
I have made and designed a few things in my life ,, when one of the guys in the shop created something worthless we would make it into a ash tray or anything to embarrass the person who designed and made it..
I can vision a lunch room filled with predator ash trays ..
If I think I need a LD shaft that bad I will make one like I have in the past.
Lets talk the best ,,,, AAA grade maple dowel 15 bucks . Micarta ferrule 45 bucks
Kamui tip 20 bucks .
Collar material 5 bucks and 3 hours of total time cutting the dowel into a shaft over a 18 month time period .
I have used pre cut shaft wood .. shafts that have been gone from a dowel to a shaft in 90 days and still haven't had issues ..
Just because China cant make a solid maple shaft doesnt mean solid maple shaft are low quality materials.
It means some materials cant be rushed and it helps if you have skilled workers
I can buy premium maple shaft dowel wood for 15 bucks a stick all day long and on Sundays too.
China cue maker are too cheap to pay that much for descent shaft material.
If I can make a descent shaft from a 15 dollar piece of maple shaft dowel wood that will not warp why cant china ??