I like that idea!
SVB cheating? Shaw/SVB Derby 9 Ball
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I like that idea!
I keep on asking but still have not got any answer or response --- what ever happened to Sardo??? Didn't that give a perfect rack pretty much everyrime? It was everywhere, then completely gone????
Ps, some talked about cost but doesn't the Delta or whatever come close to the cost of the Sardo?
Ps, some talked about cost but doesn't the Delta or whatever come close to the cost of the Sardo?
I asked the same question a while back. I left with the understanding that with the Sardo, the table had to be prepped with dimples that were stamped into the cloth. With the sardo placed at the right spot, it would collect the balls and press them into the pre punched dimples in the cloth.
As tournaments progressed, and with traveling lots of diamond tables, having the cloth permanently marked and stamped just wasn't feasable.
So Sardo went the way of Chalk Off pool table cleaner spray foam. I pool novelty from the past.
So one way to look at this is that the Sardo was a very expensive table training device and that once the dimples were there the device wasn't needed. It's only real use, compared to training or a template, was that it avoided "feathering" of loose (or not loose enough
) balls.
For those of you who may have missed them the first few times around, here are Paul Schofield's rules, summarized:
You might not like them but they do work. The current sorry state does not work very well.
'No Conflict' rules:
1. Random racking process
2. Rack your own
3. Two balls break the center-string vertical-plain
4. Money ball spots
5. Breaker shoots after a legal break (no ball on the break required)
6. Alternate breaks
1. Random racking process
2. Rack your own
3. Two balls break the center-string vertical-plain
4. Money ball spots
5. Breaker shoots after a legal break (no ball on the break required)
6. Alternate breaks
You might not like them but they do work. The current sorry state does not work very well.
Curious, do you know much about the rack? Do you play 14.1 or one pocket, and do you blast into the rack indiscriminately? I've never understood the "you can't check the rack" advice as coming from anywhere other than ignorance. Maybe you're different...
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Sardo is not very practical. Required considerable table preparation, correct use, and then exclusively using that rack on the table at all times.
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Yes, Im very well aware of the various racks, how to read the gaps and where to break from to exploit them. I bought Tuckers book and videos as soon as I learned they existed, many years ago.
In my almost 40 years of playing pool, Ive found that I cant stand straight pool for whatever reason (just not my taste). I do play one pocket a fair bit. And, I dont do much of anything on a pool table, indiscriminately.
That said, since you think my opinion might come from ignorance, Ill just let you keep thinking that. :thumbup:
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Really?
According to posters here, Shaw has accused Shane, Dennis & Earl of cheating, heck he waved the butt of his cue in Earls face and knocked balls off of the table when the ref ruled against him. When he racked for Shane last year at Turning Stone Shane beat him. After Melling publicly said he does better against Shane when Shane does not rack Shane beat him with a neutral racker at the Challenge of Champions.
If ya can't beat them on the table then try to destroy their reputation off of the table.
It is up to the tournament director to decide if some one is cheating, that is their responsibility. Other then that it is just a bunch of speculation by all of us who for what ever reason think we got it right.
According to posters here, Shaw has accused Shane, Dennis & Earl of cheating, heck he waved the butt of his cue in Earls face and knocked balls off of the table when the ref ruled against him. When he racked for Shane last year at Turning Stone Shane beat him. After Melling publicly said he does better against Shane when Shane does not rack Shane beat him with a neutral racker at the Challenge of Champions.
If ya can't beat them on the table then try to destroy their reputation off of the table.
It is up to the tournament director to decide if some one is cheating, that is their responsibility. Other then that it is just a bunch of speculation by all of us who for what ever reason think we got it right.
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The soft break happened to the sardo tight rack...Cory duel practiced with it non stop to figure it out. According to most of you on here that seems to be cheating lol
Why should it be cheating if the tournament rules allow it? I think most people have a problem with how the break determines a large part of who the winner is - in pro tournaments and "winner breaks". If the break decides over the outcome too much the game does not become more attractive.
Just my 2 cents.
I don’t think it’s cheating at all.. I said a lot of people on here thought it was. I remember long threads about the soft break on here and whether it was. Cory and shane spent hours..complete days actually practicing the break it get what they have. It’s an advantage for them..not cheating. They earned it.
Check out the following video:
NV J.2 - Did Shane and Dennis Cheat on the Break at the Derby City Classic?
Spoiler alert ...
The short answer is: No! Shane and Dennis were just smart ... and good.
For the long answer, watch the entire video. I look forward to any feedback or questions you guys might have.
Interesting thread,
Dave
NV J.2 - Did Shane and Dennis Cheat on the Break at the Derby City Classic?
Spoiler alert ...
The short answer is: No! Shane and Dennis were just smart ... and good.
For the long answer, watch the entire video. I look forward to any feedback or questions you guys might have.
Interesting thread,
Dave
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One-ball on the spot.
After all of the "Fake News," "alternative facts," unfounded claims, and inappropriate accusations in this thread, I'm surprised nobody has any comments on the video yet.
Regards,
Dave
I think the video is great, and that you are right!
I thought is was great and proved my point earlier in this conversation or another thread about racking.