This looks pretty much like the correct stroke to me for pool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiV69Qx1f0
Appears to be a, combination of pendulum & piston, with a measured forearm drop at follow-thru!
This guy can play a little bit!
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"Center Ball" ! What does that mean to you?
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This looks pretty much like the correct stroke to me for pool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiV69Qx1f0
Appears to be a, combination of pendulum & piston, with a measured forearm drop at follow-thru!
This guy can play a little bit!
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Depends on distance and speed of the shot.
There is nothing inherently "special" about a center ball hit, what matters is the action the cueball has when it strikes the object ball. I can achieve a stun run through with just above center to maxium draw, with various speeds and distances. I use the shot more in snooker as there is more "real estate" on that table and also nap cloth, which makes rolling the ball risky.
Actually I find hitting center ball more interesting in blackball (UK style pool) as the cueball is smaller. You can actually draw, stop or follow the ball with a dead center ball hit there, and some use this to great effect. You can almost play a full game with only center ball, though it would be a little bit silly, it's a fun excercise.
You don't actually have to slam the ball like the OP did to get a nice stun-run-through. Doing so can be counter productive, especially along the rails. You just have to shoot a normal speed shot (that won't roll off), and have the slide wear off just before the cueball strikes the object ball. It's not a big deal. I won't tell anyone if you shoot some of your stun-run-throughs with a little bit of draw. It can be our little secret. The line between drag shots and stun run-throughs can be a bit blurry at times.
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This looks pretty much like the correct stroke to me for pool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfiV69Qx1f0
Appears to be a, combination of pendulum & piston, with a measured forearm drop at follow-thru!
This guy can play a little bit!
Pendulum or elbow drop...they both work if you practice, not play, but practice. Look at the strokes of Wille Hoppe, Keith McCready, or Allen Hopkins. You might say they have a bad stroke, and they might agree with you, but they would still bust me!
Amazing!! What I'm demonstrating on the YouTube video is a DRILL. On the straight in shot, the stun run through is only an example of how to DEVELOPE the stroke for the distance and the speed. There is no reason to apply this to a straight in shot.... only for the drilling of the speed and cue tip on cue ball. It's merely a drill to get the CB to stop after 6" after contact. The real payback comes when this same stroke can be applied to a OB at an angle. The cue ball tracking will become quite different than a follow shot or a tangent shot. I hope someone will try this drill, get it all set up on a two diamond distance straight in and then try it on a OB set one ball up from the one ball spot. The cue ball should scratch if you are doing it right. There are many, many hours practicing getting the 6" run through at all speeds and all distances between CB and OB. What I'm demonstrating on YouTube is just a drill. I'm hoping someone will learn about. My teacher, says this is the second most important shot in pool. How many out there know about it????
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Really! It wasn't they're strokes that were different! IT was their GRIP on the cue!
There are always going to be exceptions to the norm, in every sport!
BTW, Allen is a good friend of mine, and his, short piston stroke was MORE accurate than most players with a pendulum stroke!
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1 cue tip below the shadow of the lights from above the table,on the cue ball.
I try it all the time, every time I play. But as I said before, it's not just one angle - it's all the angles between stun (tangent line) and natural roll follow. You choose the angle by where (how high) and how hard you hit the CB.
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No doubt, but you are an advanced player. I'm just wondering how many do not know about it. Some on here think my video is the way to shoot a straight in shot, but it is a DRILL It's a darn drill to learn the speed and cue tip control!!!
Well with all that said what was your skill 2 years ago? Give us something tangible. What was your straight pool high run? What ball number ghost could you beat in 9 ball? You've been using the projectionprobilliards for 2 years, what were you test scores then?
Then answer the same questions for your current game.
You didn't answer anything, you beat around the bush
I love that shot and many players will not practice it or even know of it. Another shot to practice is the drag shot, some call it drag draw, or draw drag. You can accomplish the same affect on a straight in shot as the stun through, but I mostly like it for angle shots where you don't want much movement from CB after contact, but you have to watch the amount of throw you get on the OB
Well with all that said what was your skill 2 years ago? Give us something tangible. What was your straight pool high run? What ball number ghost could you beat in 9 ball? You've been using the projectionprobilliards for 2 years, what were you test scores then?
Then answer the same questions for your current game.
You didn't answer anything, you beat around the bush
It's not about me. I was just showing a DRILL on YouTube for a "center ball" angle on a OB. I did not know about it until my teacher showed it to me about 2 years ago. I've been working on it and thought others should know about it also. Of course, the advance players know all about it but maybe ones practicing like me would want to know. I was hoping to do a service to pool players that want to get better. That is it.
Yes, you are right. The drag/draw shot is a great way to shoot a shot you think might scratch with a rolling ball. Slows it all down. I know the shot.
Does it have any forward rotation upon contact, does it have backward rotation upon contact, does it have no rotation upon contact. If you tell me this I will give you your ''answer''. :thumbup:
Did you see the YouTube video I posted: Here it is again. The shot I'm doing here is a DRILL. It is not the way to shoot a straight in shot. It is a DRILL supposed to teach one how to hit the cue ball with tip control with speed and distance. It's a stun run through with about 6" of run out. Makes the cue ball run on an angle after contact on a OB with an angle. Different from tangent and rolling ball. Here it is: https://youtu.be/fjEGe0_rP2k
you need to practice that same shot with 6" roll out at 5 diff speeds -
soft - soft med - med - med hard - power hard .
power hard is the same as going for a 5 rails .
learn to do the same thing as 6" draw shot -
Line it up dead straight and keep the cue ball on the line. no leak left or right -
It's one tough practice drill and very boring . It will put some sting in your game -
bill
I thought "Center ball" meant Dead center, not 12 O'clock, which to me is Follow or Top,and not 6 O'clock
which is Draw, to me. Obviously, you're not Hitting it with any Spin, Left or Right, which I call English. Draw
or Follow is not at the Center, so just because they are on the Vertical Axis, doesn't mean it's Center Ball.
which is Draw, to me. Obviously, you're not Hitting it with any Spin, Left or Right, which I call English. Draw
or Follow is not at the Center, so just because they are on the Vertical Axis, doesn't mean it's Center Ball.
I do that drill daily.
That particular shot is probably the most “bunted” in pool
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When I say "center", I mean "center".
I use "center" on almost all of my shots. Actually a touch inside of center.
I rely on stroke, speed, and proper angle for most of my shots and add a "bit of sumpin' sumpin'", as needed.
I use "center" on almost all of my shots. Actually a touch inside of center.
I rely on stroke, speed, and proper angle for most of my shots and add a "bit of sumpin' sumpin'", as needed.
That’s how the best explain the shot!
How’d you do that?
“Ohhh hit it hard and put a bit of sumpin sumpin on it”
Works all the time every time
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