So get rid of chalk that sticks all over the cue ball, but keep baby powder that sticks all over all the balls?
Interesting...
KMRUNOUT
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The New "No Powder" Rule
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So get rid of chalk that sticks all over the cue ball, but keep baby powder that sticks all over all the balls?
Interesting...
KMRUNOUT
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Yes, mind boggling why folks still do this. It makes no sense to me. Why put the messy part down on the rails, it's ass backward.
Given the evidence available, I have to conclude that it makes you "get lucky".
Not that it matters, but I think the rule should be something along the lines of NO LOOSE POWDER ALLOWED. Which would include no putting a pile of powder on a table, no dispensing from a baby powder bottle...that sort of thing.
Meaning, the only allowed powder should be those little powder filled cloth bags. I used one of those way back before I switched to a glove. The main reason is they are not messy at all. They dispense the bare minimum of powder which is just enough to work as intended, but not enough to leave streaks, finger (or hand) prints or any VISIBLE amounts of powder anywhere on the table, rails, balls etc....
Some of these A-holes are powder abusers though and certainly some use it as a shark move. They dump a pile on their spectator table and then dip their fingers or hands in it. Makes a huge mess for others to clean up. They leave powder all over the tables. Looks like a F***** bakery or something. Or like they are about to toss and spin some pizzas. Really, that bad. Table needs vacuuming afterwards and a wet cloth or sponge for the rails.
Of course, how do you then enforce this? The powder fanatics will then take the little bag and slap it back and forth in their hands, squeeze it and such creating clouds and excessive dispensing to get around the rule. It won't be as bad as loose powder though.
As Bob points out, the worst part is not the cosmetic distractions and ugliness of it all, but the fact that balls are touched and they literally get muddied up. This changes playing conditions. Slower or inconsistent rolls. More skids. Just bad all around. Sweaty hands with skin oils + lots of powder + balls is a bad combination.
Another sign of the times. Gloves have improved a lot, and have become a lot more common over the years. Non-glove players universally have to go through an adjustment period when switching to using a glove but it's not that big of a deal. However, certain players - like one mentioned in this thread, are highly sensitive to every little change in equipment or environment. Making stinks about tables, pocket angles, cushions, cloth and especially ball-sets. They are not going to go for a glove anytime soon if it isn't something they are used to or in their comfort zone. Oh well, too bad so sad for them. Adapt or be left behind.
Meaning, the only allowed powder should be those little powder filled cloth bags. I used one of those way back before I switched to a glove. The main reason is they are not messy at all. They dispense the bare minimum of powder which is just enough to work as intended, but not enough to leave streaks, finger (or hand) prints or any VISIBLE amounts of powder anywhere on the table, rails, balls etc....
Some of these A-holes are powder abusers though and certainly some use it as a shark move. They dump a pile on their spectator table and then dip their fingers or hands in it. Makes a huge mess for others to clean up. They leave powder all over the tables. Looks like a F***** bakery or something. Or like they are about to toss and spin some pizzas. Really, that bad. Table needs vacuuming afterwards and a wet cloth or sponge for the rails.
Of course, how do you then enforce this? The powder fanatics will then take the little bag and slap it back and forth in their hands, squeeze it and such creating clouds and excessive dispensing to get around the rule. It won't be as bad as loose powder though.
As Bob points out, the worst part is not the cosmetic distractions and ugliness of it all, but the fact that balls are touched and they literally get muddied up. This changes playing conditions. Slower or inconsistent rolls. More skids. Just bad all around. Sweaty hands with skin oils + lots of powder + balls is a bad combination.
Another sign of the times. Gloves have improved a lot, and have become a lot more common over the years. Non-glove players universally have to go through an adjustment period when switching to using a glove but it's not that big of a deal. However, certain players - like one mentioned in this thread, are highly sensitive to every little change in equipment or environment. Making stinks about tables, pocket angles, cushions, cloth and especially ball-sets. They are not going to go for a glove anytime soon if it isn't something they are used to or in their comfort zone. Oh well, too bad so sad for them. Adapt or be left behind.
First, I enjoy watching Donny play. He's one hell of a competitor and being of a similar height and build to him, I watch how he positions for shots and the mechanics of his game. Also, I'm not a glove wearer...just haven't gotten used to it and still like a little dab of powder before stepping to the table.
I know Donny visits this forum, so before he backs out completely, we learned from Lou in another thread that Greg said if the use is discreet then it will be tolerated.
So my advice on the down low is drop a little powder in your left pocket before the match. When needed, just reach into the pocket, get a dab of the verboten substance, and do some air strokes. All set.
If us gloveless players have to go underground to avoid persecution then so be it! :thumbup:
It's called:: "keeping your hands clean and dry".
I bought a glove last year at the DCC.
It was one of those expensive ones you see many of the pros wearing with the manufacturer's name alone the side. Might have been $20 or $25 dollars. I wore it for about five shots, took it off and gave it away to a friend. Some of us just do not like gloves.
I remember when they first came out, many moons ago. I was trying out one of the first ones, suffering the Michael Jackson jokes. One day Tom Ferry, aka Old Has Been, came by and said, "What are you doing? A glove kills the feel of the cue" and sauntered on.
So, I know it's a product used by many with great success. But some of us can't stand playing with them on.
Lou Figueroa
I believe the issue for the DCC revolves around the guys who get powder all over the table and balls.
If you sprinkle *a little* on a side table or ledge, and apply it to your hand sparingly, I think you're going to be OK. You get powder on the table -- you're on your own. I should caveat all that by saying that that is based upon what GS told me his feelings were about powder at the event. How the tournament desk decides to enforce the rule will not be known until post time.
Lou Figueroa
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Nice thing about the REVO. It's always super smooth.
this is a jim crow rule to disadvantage pinoys
j/k. i'm was a white powder addict myself, before i found the glory in the smoothness of the glove
j/k. i'm was a white powder addict myself, before i found the glory in the smoothness of the glove
Tap tap tap.
I've never been a powder guy. I always felt like eventually it would gum up the cue creating the exact problem it is supposed to solve. Seeing how it gets everywhere I always thought it did more harm than good to the equipment. So I like the rule, but if you're going to look the other way on it sometimes there's really no point in having it at all.
I keep a glove wadded up in my case for the rare instances where I might be playing during the summer in a really humid environment, but I try my best to never use it. My first resort is to always clean and dry my hands and that usually helps. If it doesn't I take out the q-wiz shaft smoother which is basically extremely fine grit stuff and that does the trick.
I keep a glove wadded up in my case for the rare instances where I might be playing during the summer in a really humid environment, but I try my best to never use it. My first resort is to always clean and dry my hands and that usually helps. If it doesn't I take out the q-wiz shaft smoother which is basically extremely fine grit stuff and that does the trick.
Pool gloves could be compared to another well known product....
...like taking a bath with your socks on
Kathy Keegan
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I must be weird.
Never use powder or a glove. Must have dry hand syndrome, lol.
Worked at one room that had a bar player come in several times a week to practice. He used so much powder the table would look like it had snow drifts. It would take 15 minutes to get the table clean enough to rent again. I finally started handing him a table brush with the rack of balls. He used it, too. Funny how that calmed down his chalk use a bit. :grin:
Never use powder or a glove. Must have dry hand syndrome, lol.
Worked at one room that had a bar player come in several times a week to practice. He used so much powder the table would look like it had snow drifts. It would take 15 minutes to get the table clean enough to rent again. I finally started handing him a table brush with the rack of balls. He used it, too. Funny how that calmed down his chalk use a bit. :grin:
Or like wearing a condom.
We had one of these at a poolroom I frequent. She came in with a guy once a week and you knew which table she used; it was the one where it looked like they filmed the sequel to Scarface.
As usual, a few people who go too far ruin it for everybody else.
Im watching Dennis Vs Cory. DO just went to his sitting area and there is powder on his table, and he just dipped his fingers in it. Am I missing something?
Ribbed for pleasure.