WWYD one pocket shot

ShortBusRuss said:
The head ball hit can prolly vary by a full 1/4 ball, which means there is some leeway to hit it thicker/thinner to get the required CB movement. Hitting the OB thinner will not change the cross bank angle all that much. And if you hit it thinner to get more CB movement, you just need a hair of outside to straighten the CB return angle to what you need to get close to opponent's pocket.

If the CB speed is within a diamond of where it needs to be, the hit can be manipulated with various billiard-type strokes.
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This is true my thinking was to thin the 5 put cue ball close to pocket and end rail. The 5 basically won’t move and the 9 will be close to center table. Yes it leaves the bank on the 9 which is my plan. A backward cut off the end rail is very tough. With the cue ball on the end rail if they don’t make the bank or get it real close they are going to leave a shot on the 5 which is still basically on the spot. Or you just have to move the 9 and reset from there. Ball count would also dictate the shot but if someone makes the backward bank I say great shot.
 
9BallKY said:
Ball count would also dictate the shot but if someone makes the backward bank I say great shot.
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Reminds me of a guy I used to play One Pocket with when I was learning the game 20 years ago in Tacoma, WA.

We always seem to get down to the last ball, and I would pocket the ball and leave him at the other end of the table in the corner on his side. Dude would cut the ball backwards into his pocket from 7 feet away, backwards into his pocket.

I didn't say anything the first time he shot it and made it.. But the second time that session he made the same shot, while I was racking (slightly irritated), I told him, "Hey man.. I'm gonna keep leaving you the same shot, because one of these times you're gonna hit it fat and scratch straight in my pocket. And once you do, you'll never make that shot on me again.

Well, by the results.... I must be psychic, or summin? Lol.
 
ShortBusRuss said:
Reminds me of a guy I used to play One Pocket with when I was learning the game 20 years ago in Tacoma, WA.

We always seem to get down to the last ball, and I would pocket the ball and leave him at the other end of the table in the corner on his side. Dude would cut the ball backwards into his pocket from 7 feet away, backwards into his pocket.

I didn't say anything the first time he shot it and made it.. But the second time that session he made the same shot, while I was racking (slightly irritated), I told him, "Hey man.. I'm gonna keep leaving you the same shot, because one of these times you're gonna hit it fat and scratch straight in my pocket. And once you do, you'll never make that shot on me again.

Well, by the results.... I must be psychic, or summin? Lol.
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I dhoot that shot a lot playing one pocket as long as it isn’t a complete sell out.
 
My Chohan creative shot is to carom the 5 off the back of the 9 and bank it across to my pocket and hopefully push the 9 to the end rail. I’m almost sure this will leave a bank on one of the two balls though. I haven’t had a chance to actually shoot it though. I got to give it a try
 
9BallKY said:
My Chohan creative shot is to carom the 5 off the back of the 9 and bank it across to my pocket and hopefully push the 9 to the end rail. I’m almost sure this will leave a bank on one of the two balls though. I haven’t had a chance to actually shoot it though. I got to give it a try
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Just got home from work and had to give this a try. I shot it 4 times and all 4 attempts were complete failures. Please do not try this when your on the road.
 
9BallKY said:
Just got home from work and had to give this a try. I shot it 4 times and all 4 attempts were complete failures. Please do not try this when your on the road.
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Lol.... On another note... Chohan and Frost are the two players I don't bother watching to try to learn from. ESPECIALLY if they are playing someone they think they can freewheel against. Those two would have me shooting stright up in the air.

There's a reason Scott wins a One Pocket event maybe once every 3-4 years. He's a phenomenally talented player physically, but a little too creative/aggressive for his own good. Neither he nor Chohan are built to dominate One Pocket events like Pagulayan and Bustamente are.

Again, speaking to the dangers of excessive/unnecessary creativity in One Pocket... Corey Deuel, IMHO, should have won the One Pocket this year, but with a 2-0 lead in the finals he shot straigt up in the air on a shot, when he already had positional advantage, and did not need to go out on a limb.
 
TRWpool said:
Instead I would opt to draw straight off the bottom ball and toward the first diamond on my opponent's side of the foot rail. The ball on the spot will run up table and the back ball will cross to my side roughly near the second diamond along my side rail. My opponent will not bank the straight back and the cross bank will be so severe he would loose the cue ball in the attempt.

Of course, pictures from angles such as this are not easy to judge accurately the exact position of the balls.

Tom
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I'm curious as to how the 5 ball would cross back over to the shooter's side without hitting the shot so hard that the 9 would come all the way back down table?
 
From the approximate position of the cue ball the line between it and the back ball makes a thin hit on the front ball. Therefore the front ball will travel far less distance than the back ball it the shot is hit fairly full. Just calculate the speed needed to get that back ball to your side rail and draw the cue ball towards the foot rail and you will be fine.

Tom
 
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TRWpool said:
From the approximate position of the cue ball the line between it and the back ball makes a thin hit on the front ball. Therefore the front ball will travel far less distance than the back ball it the shot is hit fairly full. Just calculate the speed needed to get that back ball to your side rail and draw the cue ball towards the foot rail and you will be fine.

Tom
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Could you possibly present a video?
 
ShortBusRuss;6333351 Again said:
I just watched Corey playing Efren in a tourney match (youtube) a short
time ago.. Deuel played some incredible shots, but at the end (hill-hill) he went
off on a dumb shot, missed badly, and Efren ran 4 and out. After the
match, Deuel is seen replaying the shot while his friends are like WTF?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDHOPnXglg

I like being creative and aggressive, but there's a time for that, and there's
a time for patience.. the Chess metaphor comes to mind.
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Runner said:
I just watched Corey playing Efren in a tourney match (youtube) a short
time ago.. Deuel played some incredible shots, but at the end (hill-hill) he went
off on a dumb shot, missed badly, and Efren ran 4 and out. After the
match, Deuel is seen replaying the shot while his friends are like WTF?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDHOPnXglg

I like being creative and aggressive, but there's a time for that, and there's
a time for patience.. the Chess metaphor comes to mind.
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Tom's book mentions an End of Game Blunder
 
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IN a later round match, Corey did commentary win cardone and frost. They were feeding him shit for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

Corey admitted he sometimes shoots shots 'just to see if the go'.

Well, son...now you know.:D
Runner said:
I just watched Corey playing Efren in a tourney match (youtube) a short
time ago.. Deuel played some incredible shots, but at the end (hill-hill) he went
off on a dumb shot, missed badly, and Efren ran 4 and out. After the
match, Deuel is seen replaying the shot while his friends are like WTF?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XbDHOPnXglg

I like being creative and aggressive, but there's a time for that, and there's
a time for patience.. the Chess metaphor comes to mind.
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Black-Balled said:
IN a later round match, Corey did commentary win cardone and frost. They were feeding him shit for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

Corey admitted he sometimes shoots shots 'just to see if the go'.

Well, son...now you know.:D
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That match with the commentary should be a sticky.
 
I tried the shot on a GC with year-old cloth. I played it with left draw to bank the back ball to my pocket. My main worry before I shot it was that the front ball would not get back across the table to act as a shape/blocker ball.

The shot worked. The two main problems are that the cue ball can be drawn off the two balls straight into the side pocket on my side of the table and that the front ball might bank into that side pocket making it a possible shot for my opponent and removing its blocking/position value.

If you cannot consistently bank the back ball to leave it within a diamond of your pocket (if you miss it), you should probably shoot some other shot.
 
If I understand the shot,I offer to take the shot needing only one ball and offer to play Tom him needing 2 balls
My shot first.I will bank for my hole every game 1st shot

Double or nothing on my personal lessons


GREAT AMERICAN ONE POCKET CHALLENGE

In cse someone thinks this is the nuts,let me reply
I hope so,I wouldn't want to play without them
 
deanoc said:
If I understand the shot,I offer to take the shot needing only one ball and offer to play Tom him needing 2 balls
My shot first.I will bank for my hole every game 1st shot

Double or nothing on my personal lessons


GREAT AMERICAN ONE POCKET CHALLENGE

In cse someone thinks this is the nuts,let me reply
I hope so,I wouldn't want to play without them
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Well Dean, Are you trying to hustle me? :eek:
That bet may depend on whether we can agree on where we locate the cue ball. :D

Tom
 
TRWpool said:
... That bet may depend on whether we can agree on where we locate the cue ball. ..
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Here is the original image marked with the diamond grid that may help with cue ball placement. (It helps that straight lines show as straight lines in the photo.)

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Oops Tom caught me woofing

Not only that but I think I had the cue ball closer to the corner pocket
where the bank was easier
 
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