WWYD one pocket shot

Poolmanis said:
Thanks for all interesting ideas. Rail cloth was really slippery. That means sidespin does not grab much. Thats why I trashed all my ideas about some banking with sidespin throw.
I hope some one pocket experts chime in.. :D
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Try it again....you may have optimal conditions to spin this bank in....
...slow or worn cloth makes it much tougher to do...damp conditions are even tougher.

Shortening a bank on new cloth is hard to do....but making it go wide is easier.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I would have to see it on the table, but I'd try banking the back ball with left draw, draw the cue ball to the side rail off the upper ball and leave the cue ball on the head cushion. If the stars align, the balls align and I leave my opponent behind the front ball which has banked to my side. I don't like slow games.
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I tried the bank with draw today....much better...even the bank seems easier with draw.
...the left english kills the cue ball off the long and short rails.....
...and if both balls were needed, you tend to get a shot on the second ball.
 
maha said:
how did two balls get spotted at the same time there. did he make two at the same time in other pockets on the last shot.
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In one pocket if you scratch while making a ball, that ball comes back up (even if made in opponent's pocket) plus another "penalty" ball.

pj
chgo
 
I would like the bank on the back ball if the cue ball was just a bit closer to the side rail or a bit further from the foot rail. I would then use a one o'clock hit on the cue ball. Not draw. Draw tends to pull the cue ball towards the side pocket and a scratch is often the result. Follow sends the cue ball into the ball on the spot and cross table while the cue ball heads straight towards the middle of the head rail. The slight right hand english pushes the cue ball safely towards the opponent's side of the table.
In this case I see that shot as problematic. The carom into the second ball brings the cue ball too far to the left side of the head rail for my liking making the shot difficult to control.

Instead I would opt to draw straight off the bottom ball and toward the first diamond on my opponent's side of the foot rail. The ball on the spot will run up table and the back ball will cross to my side roughly near the second diamond along my side rail. My opponent will not bank the straight back and the cross bank will be so severe he would loose the cue ball in the attempt.

Of course, pictures from angles such as this are not easy to judge accurately the exact position of the balls.

Tom
 
Patrick Johnson said:
In one pocket if you scratch while making a ball, that ball comes back up (even if made in opponent's pocket) plus another "penalty" ball.

pj
chgo
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Yes.. but then your opponent is shooting from the kitchen.. the CB position here is
the mystery. I like thinning the back ball and freezing him on the back short
rail.. a hero shot here could sell out... I'll wait an inning for him to make the
mistake.
 
TRWpool said:
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Of course, pictures from angles such as this are not easy to judge accurately the exact position of the balls.

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On this particular shot it's easier because we know exactly where the two spotted balls are. Also the cue ball is directly between the back ball and the shooter's pocket and about 40% of the way from the ball to the pocket.
 
Runner said:
Yes.. but then your opponent is shooting from the kitchen.. the CB position here is
the mystery. I like thinning the back ball and freezing him on the back short
rail.. a hero shot here could sell out... I'll wait an inning for him to make the
mistake.
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Probably many ways for this to happen, but here's two.

1. The two balls were spotted before; shooter just made a ball and tried to break open the balls on the spot but hit it bad. Maybe he was shooting from frozen on the head rail, or maybe the sunk ball was very deep in the pocket so that it was hard to control the cue ball.

2. One ball was already spotted. Shooter pocketed a ball in the side, trying to freeze on the bottom rail but hit it too hard.

My shot would be to come off the bottom rail with low right and spin off the long rail to freeze on the bottom rail.
 
The standard shot here is the billiard double kiss shot pocketing the ball and getting shape on the second ball.

I show this shot on my secret pay website.
 
So Tom preferred to shoot sensible pool
this is the reason he gives lessons and writes books ans
I just read

Common sense one pocket tom

Some times aggresive is risky?
 
I can safely say that no matter what I tried I would sell out in magnificent fashion!
 
Cory in DC said:
Probably many ways for this to happen, but here's two.

1. The two balls were spotted before; shooter just made a ball and tried to break open the balls on the spot but hit it bad. Maybe he was shooting from frozen on the head rail, or maybe the sunk ball was very deep in the pocket so that it was hard to control the cue ball.

2. One ball was already spotted. Shooter pocketed a ball in the side, trying to freeze on the bottom rail but hit it too hard.

My shot would be to come off the bottom rail with low right and spin off the long rail to freeze on the bottom rail.
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True in those cases.. PJ did mention in a scratch situation both balls
spotting up, as usual. An opponent potting a ball to be spotted up
as a blocker is strategic. I’m still thinning that back ball and trying to
froze him on the back rail.
 
Koop said:
I can safely say that no matter what I tried I would sell out in magnificent fashion!
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Selling out is easy playing one pocket. That’s why I just try to keep it simple and shoot shots that keep me in the game. Sometimes an opponent will just make a good shot and win but I try to let them be the one to sell out.
 
Koop said:
I can safely say that no matter what I tried I would sell out in magnificent fashion!
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This was my feel when I was planning a shot. :D
I just felt there must be some magical shot that I am too stupid to see. Feeling was so strong that I ended up making this thread.. :grin:
 
Poolmanis said:
This was my feel when I was planning a shot. :D
I just felt there must be some magical shot that I am too stupid to see. Feeling was so strong that I ended up making this thread.. :grin:
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what did YOU shoot?
 
i hit the shot about 5 times and tried to bank the back ball

i am not a good player,but i would bank the ball with either high or draw
i got close and never sold out

i put the cue on a spot about 1 diamong up and one out from the corner pocket to shoot

i am not sure if that is where you had it
 
No need to get fancy here - a simple kick-combo-bank-safety with throw gets the job done.

pj
chgo
 

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