WWYD one pocket shot

Bob Jewett said:
I tried the shot on a GC with year-old cloth. I played it with left draw to bank the back ball to my pocket. My main worry before I shot it was that the front ball would not get back across the table to act as a shape/blocker ball.

The shot worked. The two main problems are that the cue ball can be drawn off the two balls straight into the side pocket on my side of the table and that the front ball might bank into that side pocket making it a possible shot for my opponent and removing its blocking/position value.

If you cannot consistently bank the back ball to leave it within a diamond of your pocket (if you miss it), you should probably shoot some other shot.
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VP4 agrees.

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If I understand the shot,it is 1 ball north of the intersection of the diamonds

then the shot is a no brainer
and i am not really a good banker

I made it 3 times in a row and hung it in the pocket
just bank it in with high ball

both the cue ball and the front ball go up table
 
bbb said:
if your pocket is where you are standing
i would come off the ball on the spot
banking it to my side
let the cue ball go to the head rail and back to the foot rail (either straight back or off the side rail on the way down )
might need alittle right english
now i have both balls in play and the front ball on my side as a threat
he cant shoot the 2 railer or one railer because of the threat of the other ball
he could but the other ball makes it a more pressure shot
jmho
icbw
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I think what keeps that from being a great choice is that you are going 17' to stop in a 12" landing spot.
 
Black-Balled said:
I think what keeps that from being a great choice is that you are going 17' to stop in a 12" landing spot.
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actually the back ball is almost 24" from the foot rail
and any where behind it is ok.
its common for one pocket players to go up and down the table with control over the cue ball or object ball OR BOTH
think one rail banks from the stack area that are hit at pocket speed
in the end game your opponent may have a ball in the kitchen on his side you are near the foot rail
now you have to go 8 feet just to hit his ball
its common to cross it over and come back to the foot rail
jmho
icbw
 
bbb said:
actually the back ball is almost 24" from the foot rail
and any where behind it is ok.
its common for one pocket players to go up and down the table with control over the cue ball or object ball OR BOTH
think one rail banks from the stack area that are hit at pocket speed
in the end game your opponent may have a ball in the kitchen on his side you are near the foot rail
now you have to go 8 feet just to hit his ball
its common to cross it over and come back to the foot rail
jmho
icbw
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Agreed, common shot...as is brushing the back ball and spinning cb to foot rail, so frequency of execution is about equal...leaving distance as the main distinguishing factor of the cb end of things.

It is going to be far easier to control the up/down final location by going side to side, than up/ down...providing greater margin of error.

As evidenced by this thread, a lotta people would bank that back ball, even if it was 2nd in spot line. You leave that cb too far to middle of table on foot rail, now there could be a 2railer.

And remember, Now that ball is alone and theres a Lotta open space on ther table. You gotta be triple sure you don't leave a shot on that back ball, especially one where the other ball is in the open...which it will be.
 
This is the shot I was talking about, thinning the back ball to send it over
to your hole.. it may not go, but it'll put the pressure on... front ball goes
downtable, whitey with luck gets to the end rail.
I shot it a number of times and got safe with the back ball near my hole.

I tried banking the front ball... pretty much sold out, as that's letting whitey loose
and leaving a bank. $.02
 

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While WWYDs can be fun, as they spin out, you often get shot proposals that the author has neither the skill or cojones to shoot in a live fire situation.

Also, in real life you only get one whack at the shot. You don’t get to experiment nor shoot the shot multiple times.

Lou Figueroa
one and done
 
lfigueroa said:
While WWYDs can be fun, as they spin out, you often get shot proposals that the author has neither the skill or cojones to shoot in a live fire situation.

Also, in real life you only get one whack at the shot. You don’t get to experiment nor shoot the shot multiple times.

Lou Figueroa
one and done
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Thank you for stating the obvious.
Wwyd are helpfull because they show differant options. If one should desire to research these options , one could determine if said option is indeed a viable option. It is said Pros dont shoot a shot until they make it . They shoot the shot until they always make it.
 
lfigueroa said:
... Also, in real life you only get one whack at the shot. You don’t get to experiment nor shoot the shot multiple times....
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The first two times I tried the "bank the back ball, stick the cue ball on the head rail and block with the front ball" it worked fine. It wasn't until the third and fourth tries that the problems started showing up.:D
 
Whenever I'm faced with a one-pocket shot where I don't know what to do I just ask myself, "What would Efren do here?"

Then I figure out something else to do because I can't execute Efren's shot.
 
alphadog said:
Thank you for stating the obvious.
Wwyd are helpfull because they show differant options. If one should desire to research these options , one could determine if said option is indeed a viable option. It is said Pros dont shoot a shot until they make it . They shoot the shot until they always make it.
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Happy to help you out.

Lou Figueroa
 
Bob Jewett said:
The first two times I tried the "bank the back ball, stick the cue ball on the head rail and block with the front ball" it worked fine. It wasn't until the third and fourth tries that the problems started showing up.:D
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Though I’d be inclined to shoot it too, maybe that’s the problem with the bank.

It’s tough to control everything so if you shoot it you’re kinda throwing your skirt up in the air.

Lou Figueroa
never go commando
 
Runner said:
This is the shot I was talking about, thinning the back ball to send it over
to your hole.. it may not go, but it'll put the pressure on... front ball goes
downtable, whitey with luck gets to the end rail.
I shot it a number of times and got safe with the back ball near my hole.

I tried banking the front ball... pretty much sold out, as that's letting whitey loose
and leaving a bank. $.02
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If you leave the back ball near the end rail your going to leave a free cross corner on the front ball. That’s just my opinion. It’s also why the simpler shot is usually better.
 
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