So, it seems safe to say that pretty much everyone liked their Jackpot, I respect Hawaiian Eye's review, and if he says it's a good hitting cue, I figure it is(at least his for sure). He also said that when he called Dean, Dean said Jack built it, that would bother the shit out of me, being lied to on the phone, but the cue seems to hit so good he doesn't seem all that bothered.
I also never saw Jack misrepresent anything, think that was pretty much all on Dean, as he said Jack was building the cues, although oddly Dean also said the opposite too(before this all went down).
Think Dean caught so much flack on this, well obviously because he said Jack built them, but really more due to the spamming, and when people mention it, going full tilt the same direction and making excuses. Like do we need 15 for sale threads spread out even into the main forums, for me the breaking point was posting a for sale thread in the cue and case gallery with no pictures to boot.
Making so many threads for the same product, is for one against the site rules, and it's a big f*ck you to the other members selling, at least in my opinion.
I mentioned all the created threads, and not a single supporter of Dean's commented, so I ask again, when is to much, too much?
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504928
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504879
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504878
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504632
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504463
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504269
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504274
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504273
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504222
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=504168
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=506248
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=505372
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=505373
this is a very valid point, imo. The manner in which Dean sells is inconsiderate to all azb members and especially to those members who also sell here and who follow the rules.
As I stated earlier, the outlandish claims of women fainting, other player's jealousy, rattlesnakes jumping out of your path, etc, etc, etc, are his shtick, just like posting no pictures. While I'm not a fan of those selling methods, it's certainly his right and he seems to have made it work for him so no harm, no foul here.
But, the outright deception over who made the Jackpot cues and the incessant spamming and rule breaking on volume of posts and which forums they were posted in is not okay, not even a little bit. Anyone who takes the position that if you don't like it, just move on, isn't taking into account that not only is it so pervasive that it is difficult to avoid but beyond that, if you happen to be selling yourself, your items are being pushed down the page by the volume of all his posts.
Frankly, I'm shaking my head over there being so many of you who are cool with this behavior. Do you really like being lied to and spammed?
Arguments like 'everybody knows doing business with Dean is a gamble' and 'why so much drama, it's only $500' leave me dumbfounded. To those I say:
Mystery Cue: Is a gamble, everyone know it going in
Cue Described as Being Made By A Specific Maker: Should not be a gamble
If $500 is no big deal; can I hold 5 hundos? :grin: