I didn't mean you were literally advertising for Stan. I meant that Stan was promoting his aiming system on AZ with and selling DVD's and next a book. That promotion included statements that are provably false, not my opinion, but false.
No, that would be your opinion along with a few other guys.
With all due respect, it has never been about whether someone can become successful using CTE, at least not for me. I know at least one other AZ member who plays at a pretty high level and uses CTE.
How about the pro players, top amateurs in the country and CTE players you DON'T know? Lets face it, your world is right here on AZ and in your basement. There's so much you DON'T know it's incredible.
However, "his version" that he learned from Hal required knowledge of the contact point and doesn't violate geometry and physics when described. So, again, it isn't about that.
Hal didn't teach contact points.
It's about claims that are made like "100% objective" and "the balls present themselves differently depending on where they are on the table" etc. I guess it is just frustrating to see otherwise perfectly normal grown men act like children when Stan's claims are shown to be false, or at least unsubstantiated.
There are plenty of CTE users who would firmly disagree with you and say it is the case. So IOW, this frustration that overtakes you is going to continue in many more attacking posts when anyone speaks positively about CTE and isn't to YOUR liking.
One of the reasons I made that post, if you read my comments in another thread that was not removed, is that I also happen to play with an offset visual and by sweeping into the shot. I have no problem seeing shots on the video game but I don't know why. Maybe I could have been less snarky but, c'mon with all the crap that is thrown at me (and I ignore) can you blame me? Two or three others said it was a good topic and I should repost it. No thanks.
Nobody seeks you out unless you respond with an attack or something like this right here. Yes, I have to somebody has to respond.
You don't understand my position because I've never had the opportunity to explain it to you in a back and forth discussion. The above ain't it.
So are you saying you're the CENSOR on AZB and if it doesn't fit your standards it's gotta go or be attacked?
Take Gerry Williams, for example. He executed some shots and I asked what would happen if he shot them a little differently. He was nice enough to do another video and I appreciated it. I don't argue that Gerry is a great player and that he uses CTE. What I argue is that CTE works for a different reason than Stan says and what some CTE supporters here believe.
Have you asked Tyler Styer, Stevie Moore, Hunter Lombardo or any other pros? What do you think they know that you don't?
It isn't that hard to show otherwise, and I wanted to see what I could see and discuss it with Gerry, but as soon as someone disagrees with Stan we become haters and get attacked.
Do you really think Gerry is going to be your savior and tell you what you want to hear and agree? Gerry is going to tell you exactly what Stan teaches which is why he plays the way he does. Then what are you going to do...bash Gerry because you couldn't get through to him and claim he's brainwashed also?
I always said there would be no 20 year war if Stan had simply sold his product without the exaggerated claims.
The 20 year war started in 1998 with Hal and players who touted the system. Stan's videos came out in 2011. Before Stan even got close to putting the videos out or joined here, the war was carried over from RSB with anyone who claimed positive results from CTE or CTE was even mentioned. It was the same original FAB 4 as there is now.
Lou, PJ, Rick and others were pilloried for suggesting that Stan had it wrong. None of them cared whether people chose to use CTE.
Of course they did!! Otherwise they had nothing to flame about.
Dan, you can flat out lie like no one I've ever seen. Lou and PJ were doing it with Hal.
They just didn't want people to fall into it based on carnival barker type claims.
There are no carnival barker claims...they're factual. Another lie by you.
That's been the story all along. CTE works because the player MAKES it work over months and months of practice.
Now that is a 100% true statement. It's made to work by doing exactly as taught, not by bastardizing it into something else.
I've also never discouraged a new player who comes here for CTE help.
You make THIS statement after writing ALL of the ABOVE?
INCREDIBLE!
For me it's always been more about the crazy claims and the people who believe them. It's interesting to discuss in a discussion forum. If that can't happen anymore, then OK. I'll be reporting childish insults from here on, though.
