Thorpe suspended for 2 years???

The "disorders" you refer to above from smoking marijuana may inpact a fraction of 1% of the people who use it, a very small fraction at that! Now compare it with alcohol and the disorders associated with its use. There is no comparison! One is very dangerous when used improperly and the other is rather timid by comparison. And you don't need to be a doctor to understand that. Just being a fully conscious human being will suffice.
I won't post it here but the Saez video is still out there. When I watched that I saw a man engaging in self destructive behavior who needed to change. Now apparently he is suspended.

I said the same thing when I heard Shane Van Boening was losing lots of money in casinos.

People will reinforce destructive behavior but that generally doesn't help the person change.
 
The guidelines were public knowledge, and very easy to follow. It's not like the rules and laws are a wildcard changing by the hour

Did you sleep through the past 2 years?

It was one of the govts that stopped Earl, et al, and made organizations do this crap for them. Everyone surprised about it as it happened.

Enabling has many faces.




Jeff Livingston
 
Did you sleep through the past 2 years?

It was one of the govts that stopped Earl, et al, and made organizations do this crap for them. Everyone surprised about it as it happened.

Enabling has many faces.




Jeff Livingston

Someone claims this is to appease the Olympic committee.

My god, have we no shame?


Jeff Livingston
I think you've lost your context here.

The discussion is about player agreements and banned substance testing.
 
I think you've lost your context here.

The discussion is about player agreements and banned substance testing.

Driven my what? Those were my two points. What of pool, THE reason for all this?

Pool is NOT the other sports. Trying to emulate those is a losing game. Pool has its unique culture and such and should play on that to get more market share, not on fake sports like the Olympics which now lets men compete as women, in case some still believe it is a real event.

Would anyone here support THAT kind of testing? C'mon, guys, you don't pass up others by running as they do.


jeff Livingston
 
Driven my what? Those were my two points. What of pool, THE reason for all this?

Pool is NOT the other sports. Trying to emulate those is a losing game. Pool has its unique culture and such and should play on that to get more market share, not on fake sports like the Olympics which now lets men compete as women, in case some still believe it is a real event.

Would anyone here support THAT kind of testing? C'mon, guys, you don't pass up others by running as they do.


jeff Livingston
Follow the $$$$ and you will always find your answer.
 
Earl already has most of those symptoms, and he doesn't even smoke weed. It would probably be the complete opposite for him. How much you want to bet he would be a calm and cool character if you could get him to burn one.
According to an interview, he doesn't. He is a giant health nut. Good for him by the way.
Watch this short video for a hint from those that know Earl well.
 
Just saw Earl posted this. For weed?? Ridiculous!!! FUCK THE WPBA!!!

(Sorry if this is a duplicate thread, I searched and didn’t see any others on this, my search abilities may be as good as my pool game…)
The silver lining is that the monetary loss for 2 year ban of a professional pool player is what? 28k? Where 3 games of pro basketball player might be 500k. Seriously, 2 years is pretty harsh for a substance such as Mary Jane. Hate to admit it but I agree with Earl, ban him for the Mosconi cup and don't do it again or the next ban will get worse.
 
The silver lining is that the monetary loss for 2 year ban of a professional pool player is what? 28k? Where 3 games of pro basketball player might be 500k. Seriously, 2 years is pretty harsh for a substance such as Mary Jane. Hate to admit it but I agree with Earl, ban him for the Mosconi cup and don't do it again or the next ban will get worse.

Earl has lost his last chance so there will be no "next ban."

Taking away precious time....sigh.



Jeff Livingston
 
I quit smoking (regularly anyways) a couple of months ago but I used to worry when I would go across the border but after a while - fuck it, what are they going to do, arrest me? It's a stupid ticket and I'd just pay the fine.
Depends what borders you are crossing? I'd be very, very careful about where I'd go with marijuana, though fortunately it's not something I have to worry about, not using myself. Not only can you be arrested, in many countries the police will not hesitate to put hands on you and then there are other inmates.... I'm not spending a single second in Turkish prison if I can avoid it!

The two year suspension of BT sounds a bit draconian, but certainly not completely abnormal. If you participate in any sport and get caught using anything on the doping list, typically your suspension is going to be rather long, even if you accidentally ingested it. Mario He was IMO completely innocent, and still got suspended for 3 months. Lots of athletes got misled by their doctors and still got suspended and fined. They have to do it this way, otherwise everyone would claim the same thing. They all claim to be innocent now, anyway, every last one of them has some fanciful explanation regarding how the drugs got into their bloodstream. There are more lies being told regarding doping than there are in proctologists' offices, regarding how objects of various kinds got into their present location. Sports rules are separate from the Laws of the land and should be regarded differently. If you have to wear a top-hat to play pool to be in accordance with the rules, for instance, then wear it or don't play. It's a voluntary activity and not necessary for you to parttake in.

As for the legality of marijuana, I'm for it. I don't think smoking pot is a particularly productive thing to do, and I think all the hippie nonsense surrounding it is very off-putting, but I do not favour "nanny-state" laws. People should typically be left alone to do as they please, as long as there is not a very serious reason why they shouldn't be allowed to. IMO the evidence that it's harmful isn't convincing enough for me, especially since alcohol is legal and is objectively many times more harmful to society and individuals.
 
The two year suspension of BT sounds a bit draconian, but certainly not completely abnormal.
I recall the suspension of Ricky Williams from the Miami Dolphins for pot was a full season I think. That was quite some time ago, but Ricky lost waaay more than Billy could ever hope to earn throughout his career
 
I wonder if billy was targeted by someone who doesn’t like his style. Wasn’t he drunk on a stream recently? And maybe made some comments people didn’t like? I remember something like that.
I know for a 1000% fact one of the players in Mosconi regularly smokes weed.

Would not surprise me that Billy's number came up because of the shit storm he caused with Rob Saez. When pool wants you out, they show you the door. One way or another.
I started writing the above post a day or two ago and then went searching for evidence of this drunken situation. I found it. Not a great look for wild bill but not too terrible.

It doesn’t surprise me at all though that he was subsequently chosen for a “random”.

One major perk of having laws/rules against common activities is that you can use these whenever convenient to punish dissenters and trouble makers, and allow those who don’t rock the boat to slide
 
I wonder if billy was targeted by someone who doesn’t like his style. Wasn’t he drunk on a stream recently? And maybe made some comments people didn’t like? I remember something like that.

I started writing the above post a day or two ago and then went searching for evidence of this drunken situation. I found it. Not a great look for wild bill but not too terrible.

It doesn’t surprise me at all though that he was subsequently chosen for a “random”.

One major perk of having laws/rules against common activities is that you can use these whenever convenient to punish dissenters and trouble makers, and allow those who don’t rock the boat to slide
My god... why is this guy so heavily coated with teflon on this forum...?

Being "targeted" and/or falling victim to "random" testing doesn't matter if you're doing what you should be. The only person/organization doing anything wrong here is Billy.
 
Has there been any official word on what happened? What drug or drugs were involved, if any?
 
Yes JV and if those goddamn rebels would’ve just given the king his taxes, refrained from hunting his deer and using his lumber while living thousands of miles away they wouldn’t have had to worry about the royal army showing up to fsu.

If you just accept unacceptable things (which this is to me and many others) they will never change.
 
Earl has lost his last chance so there will be no "next ban."

Taking away precious time....sigh.



Jeff Livingston
I was referring to Billy Thorpe in which Earl posted on social media that Billy received a 2 year ban from the WPA and that's the reason he wasn't considered for the Mosconi Cup.
 
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