The Legendary Pearl to Take On 14.1 Attempts

realkingcobra said:
I feel bad for Earl, that he would play in this event, in order to entertain you all for bananas like a trained monkey, instead of the dollars he deserves for his past accomplishments. He would have been better off declining your offers to compete, leaving everyone wishing he would because he ran 480 balls in his personal best high run, and have everyone wishing he'd show everyone how 14.1 should be played by one of the greatest in this sport. But this is the ZOO, and viewers want to see the monkeys, because they have bananas to throw to them!!!

All this has done is proven what Earl couldn't have done, by what he actually did! Earl should have declined the invention, with the excuse that he's to old to play 14.1 now, and been left with his high run reputation, and all the viewers wishing he'd entertain them, again, one more time....for their 🍌
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Wow...That's disrespectful.

Had Earl played any other sport, he'd been set for life. Unfortunately he played pool, where everyone acts like crabs in a bucket and nobody gets paid. It is what it is, but people putting on a show for free like this do not diserve to be disrespected this way. I don't see Earl as a dancing monkey, and I doubt most other people see him this way either. Earl has his faults, but he's a warrior who fights on. A weaker man would have laid down and died or become a handyman, car salesman or something to pay the bills, but Earl didn't. He conditioned his body and kept playing against anyone who came along. The number of people his age who could do what he does can probably be counted on one hand. I have tons of respect for him. I also love to watch him play, because he always tries new things. I'm also like that, but Earl is always the pioneer who thinks about things most people don't.

I have no reason to doubt Earls high run, and I've seen him play better straight pool than he did this time. That being said, should he play again I'd watch him again. He's one of the few people I'd pay a lot to watch play pool. He just has that magic "it" factor and I'm not talking about the things he does when he gets mad or out of control. I'm talking about his play.
 

Coincidentally, this Sigel vs Earl straight pool match played in 2017 came across my youtube today. It seem appropriate given the context of an older, but masterful, 14.1 player (Sigel), and how he plays at older age. (I did not watch it yet, only skimmed through).

Earl has a high run of 97, Sigel 53. Earl was age 55, Sigel was 63.


Edit: I fast forward to the start of Sigel's 53 run, and couldn't do it. He was talking non-stop complaining, and taking 5 min a shot. Maybe I'll try again another day on mute and fast speed.
 
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realkingcobra said:
I feel bad for Earl, that he would play in this event, in order to entertain you all for bananas like a trained monkey, instead of the dollars he deserves for his past accomplishments. He would have been better off declining your offers to compete, leaving everyone wishing he would because he ran 480 balls in his personal best high run, and have everyone wishing he'd show everyone how 14.1 should be played by one of the greatest in this sport. But this is the ZOO, and viewers want to see the monkeys, because they have bananas to throw to them!!!

All this has done is proven what Earl couldn't have done, by what he actually did! Earl should have declined the invention, with the excuse that he's to old to play 14.1 now, and been left with his high run reputation, and all the viewers wishing he'd entertain them, again, one more time....for their 🍌
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You are a very sad case -- in lieu of what we did, and everyone getting to see Earl shoot, I don't know what else to say.

Lou Figueroa
 
Straightpool_99 said:
... I tried my hardest to model my straight pool game on Mike Sigel's game, so I'd love to watch him take a crack at the record, though I realize that he may not have the firepower anymore.
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I recently watched part of Sigel's match in the IPT "King of the Hill" event (2005). He was playing Efren in the finals. He ran 213. Not balls, but rather words before a single shot after he had butchered position. The run was amazing so I had to count it. I clicked on to something else after that. Logorrhea is a curse. I don't think we really have time to watch Mike at three minutes per shot.

I agree though that Sigel was one of the best players in the world at his peak and his 150 against Zuglan is a model for how 14.1 should be played.

As for Schmidt, I watched at least one day of each of his four challenge sessions in person. In the first ones, I was amazed by how he could run hundreds with three tough shots every rack. His last session (May, 2019) was different. He had very few hard shots. His 626 had only one iffy shot at around 580 where the shot after the break shot was a carom along the foot rail. It was about a 50-50 shot that many players would shoot in a match. I guess John learned by trial and error to keep it simpler.
 
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Shuddy said:
Hey, now we’re onto something 😂

Really though, he just came in insulting everyone for thinking Earl could beat 626, when in reality, no one actually said that. We were just enjoying watching Earl play. Then he started insulting the event. I assume because he thinks it’s shitty to encourage people to beat JS’s record, when, once again, in reality, JS has had a couple of years of no one even trying to beat his record so he can maximize the potential of his feat (that is, host private dinners/screenings in America and not allow the majority of people who enjoy 14.1 to enjoy his accomplishment). Then he falls back on his reputation as the world’s best table mechanic, which is a reputation I suspect he gained by telling everyone he’s the world’s best table mechanic.

Man, I feel dirty shitting on him like this, but all he’s done in this thread is be an asshat, so…….
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Earl has been known to knock the equipment sometimes so I thought possibly that could be where this bitterness started. But in king cobras defense I had someone suggest I allow him to rework my gold crown and they really spoke highly of his workmanship.
 
realkingcobra said:
All this has done is proven what Earl couldn't have done, by what he actually did! Earl should have declined the invention, with the excuse that he's to old to play 14.1 now, and been left with his high run reputation, and all the viewers wishing he'd entertain them, again, one more time....for their 🍌
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So if JS comes in for a week, plays perfect patterns and optimal 14.1 but only runs 300, is that proof that his perfect patterns couldn’t possibly have resulted in a 626?
 
Shuddy said:
So if JS comes in for a week, plays perfect patterns and optimal 14.1 but only runs 300, is that proof that his perfect patterns couldn’t possibly have resulted in a 626?
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Would you like to put some money in that BIG MOUTH of yours that JS WOULDN'T run 300+ balls??? Hope you have a real BIG MOUTH, because there's a ton of people that would take that bet😅🤣🤣
 
realkingcobra said:
Would you like to put some money in that BIG MOUTH of yours that JS WOULDN'T run 300+ balls??? Hope you have a real BIG MOUTH, because there's a ton of people that would take that bet😅🤣🤣
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You might want to read my post you quoted. Where did I say I didn’t think JS would run 300?

How about this: I’ll bet you a thousand that he doesn’t run 626+ in 5 days, and then because video evidence of his 626 isn’t available to me, I’ll spend the next week talking shit about his claim of 626. How does that sound?
 
Shuddy said:
I’ll bet you a thousand that he doesn’t run 626+ in 5 days, and then because video evidence of his 626 isn’t available to me,
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Why don't you just post a million, and offer the reward directly to John to repeat his record run, and if he passes 526 he gets paid, because that's way more than enough proof that he COULD have ran the 626😉
 
Shuddy said:
You might want to read my post you quoted. Where did I say I didn’t think JS would run 300?

How about this: I’ll bet you a thousand that he doesn’t run 626+ in 5 days, and then because video evidence of his 626 isn’t available to me, I’ll spend the next week talking shit about his claim of 626. How does that sound?
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You really think a $1,000 is worth it to John just to entertain you? So he can prove to YOU he really ran 626 balls? PLEASE, make it worth his while, and I'm sure he'd oblige your little ego!!
 
realkingcobra said:
Why don't you just post a million, and offer the reward directly to John to repeat his record run, and if he passes 526 he gets paid, because that's way more than enough proof that he COULD have ran the 626😉
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how exactly is this a fair bet to risk a million to win ... nothing?

I think there will be enough people putting up a million that John Schmidt won't get 526 in a week. Do you put up a million to pay them if they are right?
 
realkingcobra said:
You really think a $1,000 is worth it to John just to entertain you? So he can prove to YOU he really ran 626 balls? PLEASE, make it worth his while, and I'm sure he'd oblige your little ego!!
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Do you have a developmental disability? Serious question. I’ll approach this conversation differently if you do. Two of my best friends were diagnosed late in life with ADHD and being on the spectrum. Both brilliant people, but being aware of their disabilities makes interacting with them a lot easier.

You suggested I put up money that John couldn’t run a 300 in a week when I didn’t say he couldn’t. I did in fact say the opposite; that him running 300 in a week isn’t proof that he could run 600, just as you claimed that Earl running 200 is proof that he could never have run 480.

In response, I bet YOU a thousand that John couldn’t run 626 in 5 days, and that without video available to me and following your logic, were he not to run 626, I’d therefore have to assume that his 626 is a lie.

And you interpreted that as me offering John $1000 to run 626.

Anyway, both my friends’ lives improved dramatically once they started receiving treatment.
 
and rewarding players for running 500+ or putting up a new world record without having to risk their money is exactly what this event is about :oops:
 
bbb said:
I hope one day i can play so bad and run 100 a few times and 200 balls
How many of you critics play that bad?
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Well, this sums it all up for me, anyhow. I watched a small portion of this event on my phone last week while up North for the holidays.
Look, no matter what Earl's past history, as a champion at 9 ball or as a jerk at some events; anyone who can get up and run 150+ multiple times should get some respect just for that accomplishment alone- how many people in the world can do that today?

If you know how difficult 14.1 can be to make every shot and get position and open up clusters and get onto break balls and avoid the traps while keeping the cue ball out of the hole; you know that multiple 150 ball runs are always something to be celebrated, no matter what you THINK someone should be accomplishing.
 
Shuddy said:
Do you have a developmental disability? Serious question. I’ll approach this conversation differently if you do. Two of my best friends were diagnosed late in life with ADHD and being on the spectrum. Both brilliant people, but being aware of their disabilities makes interacting with them a lot easier.

You suggested I put up money that John couldn’t run a 300 in a week when I didn’t say he couldn’t. I did in fact say the opposite; that him running 300 in a week isn’t proof that he could run 600, just as you claimed that Earl running 200 is proof that he could never have run 480.

In response, I bet YOU a thousand that John couldn’t run 626 in 5 days, and that without video available to me and following your logic, were he not to run 626, I’d therefore have to assume that his 626 is a lie.

And you interpreted that as me offering John $1000 to run 626.

Anyway, both my friends’ lives improved dramatically once they started receiving treatment.
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You fail to understand the pattern running it takes to run high numbers. John has posted many of his runs in the 300+ and 400+ ranges, verifying he's capable of putting up some very high numbers, because he's been there, and knows what it takes to get there.

Earl, who's claimed a high run of 480 in practice is a higher run than any world champion in 14.1 has ever achieved.

One would think a person with those capabilities would certainly be able to run 200+ balls at least more than once in a week of trying, but by his own demonstration and inability to put racks together is proof in itself he don't posses the knowledge, NOT THE SKILLS, but the skills at reading the patterns in the racks to have made that 480 run.

And don't even try using Earl being 60 as the reason why he fails to do so. Earl is still to this day a threat to win any event he enters, believe that!! So Earl is far from being washed up.
 
Shuddy said:
Do you have a developmental disability? Serious question. I’ll approach this conversation differently if you do. Two of my best friends were diagnosed late in life with ADHD and being on the spectrum. Both brilliant people, but being aware of their disabilities makes interacting with them a lot easier.

You suggested I put up money that John couldn’t run a 300 in a week when I didn’t say he couldn’t. I did in fact say the opposite; that him running 300 in a week isn’t proof that he could run 600, just as you claimed that Earl running 200 is proof that he could never have run 480.

In response, I bet YOU a thousand that John couldn’t run 626 in 5 days, and that without video available to me and following your logic, were he not to run 626, I’d therefore have to assume that his 626 is a lie.

And you interpreted that as me offering John $1000 to run 626.

Anyway, both my friends’ lives improved dramatically once they started receiving treatment.
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I've been playing pool, and working in the billiards industry in combination for over 50 years, what do YOU do for a living?? Go to your day job and play APA in the evenings?
 
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