Mine is a Professional bought in 2004 and you play to the first diamond past side pocket. From what i have read that is "on system" but rare. go figure lol.
Questions on Diamond "Pro Cut " Tables
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That's about how my Gold Crown and most other tables play, the red label Diamonds can be pretty unique.
The first Diamond past the side? (Through the Diamond?) That’s a heated carom table track. I’d have to see it to believe it on a pool table, let alone a Diamond brand.
It will with new cloth and polished balls. Maybe the reports are from players who wax their balls.
On worn cloth with normal, clean balls, pool tables are often diamond 2 shooting from one corner to get to the other corner.
I aim for the rear of the middle diamond, I think the ball hits the rail at the diamond past the side pocket. Simonis 860 is ten years old, lots of breaking track lines and a lot of rail grove wear, balls like new cleaned in Diamond polisher with Aramith cleaner, always shiny.
If I'm reading this correctly, my aim point is between each of yours. From any corner, aim for the cue ball to strike the first rail exactly at the point of the 1st diamond past the side pocket. It does not work if you shoot "through" either the 1st or the 2nd diamond past the side pocket.
I have just shot it a few times from each corner, and I placed a piece of chalk (Taom, of course) at the point of aim (shoot "through" the chalk). This works for me, using medium speed and slight running english. See picture below with blow up inset of chalk position. Seems that there may be some variance in tables. Environmentally, it is maintained 72 or 73 degrees and the humidity is maintained at 45%.
The Paragon table has the blue label rails design.
I will try to get you a video.
This cloth was put on in 2016 I believe but not a whole lot of play until last 8 or 9 months. I do clean the balls about once every week or every 2 weeks with a rag and aramith ball cleaner or tiger ball cleaner.
I have always wondered why people say the red label plays short as I have never seemed to have that problem with this table.
I am wondering if the rail rubber needs to be replaced as it is original from 2004.
Anyone who is testing the corner-5 system needs to remember that it has to be played with running follow. Played without side spin, the shot will go very long.
I only have a single aim point which is very, very close to yours, that's why I said that I shoot thru the rear of the middle diamond (realistically my actual aim point relative to your photo would be pretty much right between your piece of Toam and the middle diamond). What I was explaining before that I think confused you is the point aim for and where the cue ball actually contacts the rail are 2 very different spots due to your perception of the shot. If someone stands across from your aim point and watches where the cue ball actually contacts the rail they will tell you that you did not come close to hitting your aim even though it looks dead on to the shooter. Plus another difference is that I have a Gold Crown, not a Diamond. The rails, cushions, and pockets are all modified but its still a different table.
I usually play it with about a tip of high running english, using more side spin can also change the finishing point. Is there an "industry standard" amount of spin this system is meant to be shot with???
Well, I suppose it is the amount of side you would have if you come two rails out of the corner you normally shoot from (a five-rail shot). That would be the side spin the cue ball "wants" to have. Alternatively, it is the amount of side that gets the most consistent results. Or makes the system work well.
I think the amount I usually use (from long experience, not theory) is about "three diamonds in a table length". That is, shoot straight up the table one diamond off the side rail and the cue ball goes off the end rail to the corner pocket on the other side of the table. I think some describe that as "a tip and a half".
You might want to mount your camera further back and up higher.
looks perfect to me! That’s pretty much consistent with my Superspeed rails on my Anni, which is also very close to my Artemis rails as well. When set up right they play very close to each other.
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I setup and execute this like Korsakoff. You see where he placed the chalk on his post? It’s the same aim point for me. The running english is just what I would consider natural.