It's the same stroke. You are trading easier aiming for a bad stroke. It's that simple. There are better ways to pivot for english thar don't involve wrist manuvers.
BHE vs FHE
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I agree pivoting for english works well, however, on modern equipment any method with wrist action is suicide.
Edited videos aren't objective.
How about you have to shoot each shot 5 times with no editing and pj too. You use your swipe bs. I would bet pj's cueball scatter will be much tighter.
ROTFLMAO!! You certainly don't know what there is to know. PJ is a ghost when it comes to doing anything at the table with or without video. Video? An entire team of Budweiser Clydesdales couldn't drag his hackin' ass to the table for the world to see him floundering and flopping around with a cue in his hand along with a blackboard off to the side covered in algebraic formulas and 2D drawings to remind him what needs to be done.
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Forgive me, but why refer to it as 'Christian integrity'?? Why not just 'Integrity'?? Non-christians can have integrity as well as christians my friend, contrary to what you've been taught!! You don't need religion to do the right thing my man. Jmho. I've put up the blast shields, so fire away. Lol.
Dang it all..........Now I have to go make a game at the pool room so I can make some money to buy me a Tidily Winks set.
The hidden beauty of BHE is....Once you know the pivot point of a shaft....If you play all of your shots at the pivot point you effectively widen your margin of stroking error to pocket a ball and stay at the table.....In my neck of the woods....control of the table is pretty important....getting perfect shape but missing is worse (to me) than getting bad shape but making the ball.....I like playing with a method that #1 sets my bridge hand on the natural shot line every time and #2 gives me a comfort level (confidence) that even if my stroke is a little "wobbly"...I still have a chance.
I don't refer to what I do as a swoop though....I don't (purposefully) flex or pronated or bend in any way the wrist...but on longer strokes I don't overly (fight) against my wrist curling up after contact...I think it is just my natural way of lengthening the follow through.......I call it "erring" to the left or the right......Because I know (when using BHE) if I keep my bridge hand rock solid....even if my tip wavers from my intended contact point...I still make the ball.....If I happen to be hitting a shot where I want to make sure I don't put checking english on the ball....I will "ERR" to the running english side of the stroke line......This is not a swoop, swipe or anything....It is actually just a "feeling" within the stroke....but I am in that case hitting someplace slightly different than my actual aim point....even if ever so slight.
Now.....If I need "precision" on the shot for purposeful amounts of English for a specific shot.....I am in full agreement with you.......I am either using BHE or FHE (depending on the shot and shaft pivot point).....and I am going to "lock in" the amount of tip offset before I pull the trigger...........based on my post #196 earlier in this thread.....I feel like I have demonstrated at least a minimum understanding of how to effectively apply English.
Now my question.....Which is better for Tidily Winks.... a two finger grip or three finger grip?
Thanks my friend!!
That was one helluva good explanation dude!!Dang it all..........Now I have to go make a game at the pool room so I can make some money to buy me a Tidily Winks set.
The hidden beauty of BHE is....Once you know the pivot point of a shaft....If you play all of your shots at the pivot point you effectively widen your margin of stroking error to pocket a ball and stay at the table.....In my neck of the woods....control of the table is pretty important....getting perfect shape but missing is worse (to me) than getting bad shape but making the ball.....I like playing with a method that #1 sets my bridge hand on the natural shot line every time and #2 gives me a comfort level (confidence) that even if my stroke is a little "wobbly"...I still have a chance.
I don't refer to what I do as a swoop though....I don't (purposefully) flex or pronated or bend in any way the wrist...but on longer strokes I don't overly (fight) against my wrist curling up after contact...I think it is just my natural way of lengthening the follow through.......I call it "erring" to the left or the right......Because I know (when using BHE) if I keep my bridge hand rock solid....even if my tip wavers from my intended contact point...I still make the ball.....If I happen to be hitting a shot where I want to make sure I don't put checking english on the ball....I will "ERR" to the running english side of the stroke line......This is not a swoop, swipe or anything....It is actually just a "feeling" within the stroke....but I am in that case hitting someplace slightly different than my actual aim point....even if ever so slight.
Now.....If I need "precision" on the shot for purposeful amounts of English for a specific shot.....I am in full agreement with you.......I am either using BHE or FHE (depending on the shot and shaft pivot point).....and I am going to "lock in" the amount of tip offset before I pull the trigger...........based on my post #196 earlier in this thread.....I feel like I have demonstrated at least a minimum understanding of how to effectively apply English.
Now my question.....Which is better for Tidily Winks.... a two finger grip or three finger grip?
Seriously. I was able to understand it no prob. If I can understand it, than anybody can. Lol.
You're quoting the wrong person here. Ask Billiards About.
There is No hidden beauty! If a player does Not finally contact the CB at the point where they initially Line up on the CB to the OB they'll never be a top player. Just a 'Ham & Egger.'Dang it all..........Now I have to go make a game at the pool room so I can make some money to buy me a Tidily Winks set.
The hidden beauty of BHE is....Once you know the pivot point of a shaft....If you play all of your shots at the pivot point you effectively widen your margin of stroking error to pocket a ball and stay at the table.....In my neck of the woods....control of the table is pretty important....getting perfect shape but missing is worse (to me) than getting bad shape but making the ball.....I like playing with a method that #1 sets my bridge hand on the natural shot line every time and #2 gives me a comfort level (confidence) that even if my stroke is a little "wobbly"...I still have a chance.
I don't refer to what I do as a swoop though....I don't (purposefully) flex or pronated or bend in any way the wrist...but on longer strokes I don't overly (fight) against my wrist curling up after contact...I think it is just my natural way of lengthening the follow through.......I call it "erring" to the left or the right......Because I know (when using BHE) if I keep my bridge hand rock solid....even if my tip wavers from my intended contact point...I still make the ball.....If I happen to be hitting a shot where I want to make sure I don't put checking english on the ball....I will "ERR" to the running english side of the stroke line......This is not a swoop, swipe or anything....It is actually just a "feeling" within the stroke....but I am in that case hitting someplace slightly different than my actual aim point....even if ever so slight.
Now.....If I need "precision" on the shot for purposeful amounts of English for a specific shot.....I am in full agreement with you.......I am either using BHE or FHE (depending on the shot and shaft pivot point).....and I am going to "lock in" the amount of tip offset before I pull the trigger...........based on my post #196 earlier in this thread.....I feel like I have demonstrated at least a minimum understanding of how to effectively apply English.
Now my question.....Which is better for Tidily Winks.... a two finger grip or three finger grip?
I would first advise You learn the rules of TW.
I certainly would insist on 5 times without editing, yes, because PJ's extreme reluctance to make a video proves to me his scatter will include failed shots.
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You're yet to argue anything I've posted, actually.
So far, your strongest argument seems to be "It's impossible to apply 1.65 mm of english without sliding the bridge hand forward during the stroke".
Are we making a video or . . . ?
Which english method do you use? Traditional english is stroked diagonally, away from the shot line, plus adjusting consciously or subconsciously for curve, squirt, etc.
It sounds like you've not gone throught the steps I've diagrammed. Try them if you like.
"Christian integrity" = doing things a Christian is admonished to do. For two other examples, an atheist of integrity wouldn't honor the Sabbath, a Muslim of integrity would fast on Ramadan but not observe Easter, etc.
But who told you don't need Jesus to do all the right things? Which non-Christians or non-Jews honor the Sabbath, and worship Jehovah only?
I agree with you, Mensa, that a person can have high integrity without Jesus Christ, but they cannot have "Christian integrity", so I refer to Christian pros . . . as Christians. That's why I referred to it as "Christian integrity". Tom is known as a fine pro, a fine person, and a fine Christian.
Thanks for asking.
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Nah....I prefer Bacon with my Eggs
You just can't see it....because it is obviously "hidden" from you....Sorry bout your luck.
It's not "plus" adjusting - the diagonal stroke itself is the adjustment.
Again, do you even play pool?
We? lol
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No, my facts are correct.
One strokes diagonally to the shot line to use traditional english, as opposed to what the reader posted about stroking on the center CB shot line. One must also adjust aim so that deflection and curve are accounted for, as opposed to using center CB.
Speaking of deflection, "LOL" is not an answer.
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Oops. My bad. Guess I better get those damn glasses after all.
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