2024 World Pool Championship

I have a dumb blonde—yeah, I said it—question. Do WNT events like this have entry fees that must be paid by the pros themselves? Just curious.

I ask because the 2023 World Pool Championship, according to Matchroom's player contracts, had an entry fee of $500.

Source: https://matchroompool.com/wp-content/uploads/WPC-2023-Player-Agreement-FINAL.pdf

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smoochie said:
Listen, no disrespect for the guy but if I were him i'd quit long time ago...its embarrassing to devote your life to pool and play as much as he does and still don't win...Its beyond my understanding unless you're really really really bad at the game, and even if you're really really really bad at the game there's still chance that one tournament here and there you'd have POOL GODS on your side and you should win!! but he manages not to do that either so I'm baffled.

Listen I have real job & I also have big family and lots of commitments in my life, pool is my hobby and I swear to you if you put me in as many tournys as he played i'd snag one if pool gods and all rolls by my side, afterall you need those to win tournaments and they happen maybe 3-4 times during your life time, you still have to play but if pool gods on your side you'll play even better, I'm sure pool players will relate to what I'm saying here because it happened to them. But my point is, with my life commitments if i played as many tournys as Hunter has played i would at least snag one tournament 100%.
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Some next level hubris here.

This is equivalent to the ole “if my high school coach didn’t hate me I’d have gone D1…”
 
iusedtoberich said:
I think anyone with a decent full time job, and single, could afford to travel to every single international event, and play in it (assuming they had an invite).

The issue is a dayjob probably would not give that much vacation.

I have a few pool buddies who work Uber. I've seen their pay and they can clear over $500 a day if they work super hard. That might be the perfect job for an aspiring pro. Make your own hrs. Work anywhere in the country. Enough pay to support entry and hotel. Can even work a few hours at the tournament destination between rounds to pay for the trip.
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I still think for US aspiring pros we need to take one mid-size, cheap cost of living city and just declare it a pool hub. Let four 21 year old Fargo 710's split rent. Get 15-20 of those players in the same city and create a scene where on any given Tuesday there are 10 Fargo 700-750 players at the pool hall getting work in against each other after their day jobs. Hobby/action players then know exactly where to go to have a good pool vacation and guaranteed action.

In the current setup a lot of 650+ players exist in a no-man's land unless they pump a bunch of money into travel/tournaments.
 
Justaneng said:
I still think for US aspiring pros we need to take one mid-size, cheap cost of living city and just declare it a pool hub. Let four 21 year old Fargo 710's split rent. Get 15-20 of those players in the same city and create a scene where on any given Tuesday there are 10 Fargo 700-750 players at the pool hall getting work in against each other after their day jobs. Hobby/action players then know exactly where to go to have a good pool vacation and guaranteed action.

In the current setup a lot of 650+ players exist in a no-man's land unless they pump a bunch of money into travel/tournaments.
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Texas has areas a lot like that. Dallas, H-town, Austin all have lively tourn/action with players in that speed range. There are in-state tours too: Centex(San Antonio/Austin), DFW Tour, Fast Freddies Tour. A lot of good players in Texas.
 
smoochie said:
You sure about that? Pay me 20 major tourney's entries and ill do it. I'll pay for the other expenses such as hotels/airfare.
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Can't tell if you're trolling or serious. If you're not an 800+ speed player right now there's 0 chance you'd win one of the next 20 "major" matchroom events
 
nmh2008 said:
Can't tell if you're trolling or serious. If you're not an 800+ speed player right now there's 0 chance you'd win one of the next 20 "major" matchroom events
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Problem is i'm 100% serious, im a 0 fargo rating which is another system that I dont believe in, i cant believe everyone is using it....but yea I am serious

Let me ask you something about fargo, assume a guy (Jack) who played 2 major tournaments in his whole life and he won both of them, but never joined any other tournament for the next seven years.

Then another guy (Mike) who plays on every tournament that ever existed in these seven years and he get some 10th, 15th, 8th in some of these tournaments but never won one.

Which one of the above two guys will have higher fargo? It will have to be Mike right? because Fargo is about points and you gather points by how much entries you go to, even though Jack is better than Mike BY MILES but Fargo is a failure system which everybody for some reason love to use, so thats why I don't use or take into consideration fargo for anything.

You can literally have a better player somewhere who never played a tournament in his life, his fargo is zero who cares but he's better than your 800+ american player fargo who plays in 1000 tournaments.
 
JAM said:
I have a dumb blonde—yeah, I said it—question. Do WNT events like this have entry fees that must be paid by the pros themselves? Just curious.

I ask because the 2023 World Pool Championship, according to Matchroom's player contracts, had an entry fee of $500.

Source: https://matchroompool.com/wp-content/uploads/WPC-2023-Player-Agreement-FINAL.pdf

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Nothing about entry fees. I'm sure they pay something per event. https://matchroompool.com/world-pool-championship/the-world-pool-championship-event-guide/
 
smoochie said:
Problem is i'm 100% serious, im a 0 fargo rating which is another system that I dont believe in, i cant believe everyone is using it....but yea I am serious

Let me ask you something about fargo, assume a guy (Jack) who played 2 major tournaments in his whole life and he won both of them, but never joined any other tournament for the next seven years.

Then another guy (Mike) who plays on every tournament that ever existed in these seven years and he get some 10th, 15th, 8th in some of these tournaments but never won one.

Which one of the above two guys will have higher fargo? It will have to be Mike right? because Fargo is about points and you gather points by how much entries you go to, even though Jack is better than Mike BY MILES but Fargo is a failure system which everybody for some reason love to use, so thats why I don't use or take into consideration fargo for anything.

You can literally have a better player somewhere who never played a tournament in his life, his fargo is zero who cares but he's better than your 800+ american player fargo who plays in 1000 tournaments.
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Fargo is FAR from a failure. There are more people playing pool tournaments now then in the last 30yrs, maybe more. Just because you don't like it,or understand it, doesn't make it bad.
 
garczar said:
Fargo is FAR from a failure. There are more people playing pool tournaments now then in the last 30yrs, maybe more. Just because you don't like it,or understand it, doesn't make it bad.
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Ok just answer this assumption to me, one guy travels all over the world and register/sign every tournament that ever existed.... he finishes 7th 8th 10th most of the tournaments he's an alright player but not the greatest of all time, sometimes he finishes 3rd, but he literally plays in China/europe/america/Japan, everywhere that has "tournament" next to its name.

Now another guy who just plays 2 tournaments a year, sometimes 1 tournament a year and he wins it 1st place. <-- this second guy likes to relax and only plays the big one, but he's the greatest of all time and better than the guy above by aloooooooooot in terms of skill.

Now you tell me, why Fargo will have the greatest of all time lower in Fargo rating then the guy on top who joins 1000 tournaments a year? why is Fargo accurate to you?
 
smoochie said:
Ok just answer this assumption to me, one guy travels all over the world and register/sign every tournament that ever existed.... he finishes 7th 8th 10th most of the tournaments he's an alright player but not the greatest of all time, sometimes he finishes 3rd, but he literally plays in China/europe/america/Japan, everywhere that has "tournament" next to its name.

Now another guy who just plays 2 tournaments a year, sometimes 1 tournament a year and he wins it 1st place. <-- this second guy likes to relax and only plays the big one, but he's the greatest of all time and better than the guy above by aloooooooooot in terms of skill.

Now you tell me, why Fargo will have the greatest of all time lower in Fargo rating then the guy on top who joins 1000 tournaments a year? why is Fargo accurate to you?
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Yeah, you have no idea how Fargo works. In the scenario you laid out, the 1st player would have a Fargo that looks like Sky Woodward. The guy that plays 2 tournaments a year and wins them both would have the highest Fargo in the world.
 
nmh2008 said:
Yeah, you have no idea how Fargo works. In the scenario you laid out, the 1st player would have a Fargo that looks like Sky Woodward. The guy that plays 2 tournaments a year and wins them both would have the highest Fargo in the world.
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If thats the case then maybe I don't understand Fargo. What I understood is it takes into account how many tournaments you played in.
 
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