Full splice lost art

lol!!! Because I wrote the Gilbert Cue article for InsidePOOL Magazine in 2005, and because believe it or not I simply asked Andy. Andy and I have been friends for 20 years. I have four Gilbert Cues, two of which are J/Bs.

If you actually have a question on full-splice cues, I can point you the right direction.
Prather is prolly next to build my full splice, or dzuricky since gilbert wont answer my emails and drexler has had my deposit for 3 months and hasnt started the cue.
 
How does a jump break cue with a screw where the forearm meets the handle qualify as a full-splice cue ????
Doesn't that make it a short-splice ?
And add to the coring debate, the last ebony full-splice blank I got from Davis had a laminated maple core dowel at the bottom ( ebony part ).
 
How does a jump break cue with a screw where the forearm meets the handle qualify as a full-splice cue ????
Doesn't that make it a short-splice ?
And add to the coring debate, the last ebony full-splice blank I got from Davis had a laminated maple core dowel at the bottom ( ebony part ).

He also thinks that his player is one piece of coco...or that is what I get out of his description. Seems like it'd be a heavy cue and a waste of coco to put it under the wrap...between rings...
 
Generally i do as i wish. Dickheads like you dont call my shots

What exactly did you expect when you started this thread? You have a handful of posts during the two years you have been here and you haven't given any indication that you know what you are talking about. Despite that, you are arguing with cuemakers and people who have been around a lot of cue making for a long time.

I'm not surprised that a cuemaker with a golden reputation isn't calling you back.
 
How does a jump break cue with a screw where the forearm meets the handle qualify as a full-splice cue ????
Doesn't that make it a short-splice ?
And add to the coring debate, the last ebony full-splice blank I got from Davis had a laminated maple core dowel at the bottom ( ebony part ).
I’m by no means an expert but the weirdest take away in this thread for me is that some people think coring is a shortcut. It’s been nothing but a process for me.
 
As you may know, theres alot of cues out there if he wont. Since they all hit the same according to the experts you neednt worry about it.
 
This discussion is so weird, OP making a broad generalization on a flawed initial premise. Pretty sure the Gilbert J/B never started life as a full splice, pretty sure it was always built as a short splice forearm that screws into the handle section. Even if that wasn't the case and it started life as a full splice, as soon as it was cut it instantly became the equivalent of a short splice...since that's leaves the forearm constructed exactly the same in either case.

Now, perhaps the OP misspoke or spoke out of ignorance on the topic and is really trying to refer to a properly spliced cue as opposed to inlayed points? That would at least actually apply to the cue in question. But still, to make a broad assumption about feel and playability based on a sample size of one is quite the leap.

For what it's worth, I've owned them all. Full splice, short splice, inlayed points, merry widows, most cored, at least 1 or 2 non-cored. I can make no such generalizations based on my experiences.
 
OK, so I agree to a certain extent that if you wrapped a bunch of cues from the joint on down with masking tape players might not be able to discern the method of their construction -- but I think they would find that they prefer the hit of certain cues, with similar construction, over others.

Lou Figueroa
This was done on AZBilliards 10 or so years ago. I believe 10 different style of cues were sent to various members to see if they could tell the difference. All the cues were covered so the participants could not identify anything about them. I slightly remember the results but have not been able to find the posts. Does anyone remember?
 
How does a jump break cue with a screw where the forearm meets the handle qualify as a full-splice cue ????
Doesn't that make it a short-splice ?
And add to the coring debate, the last ebony full-splice blank I got from Davis had a laminated maple core dowel at the bottom ( ebony part ).
if the handle was ebony, it was probably cored to balance and reduce the weight.
 
There are NO Magic Cues, if you think there is you need to rethink what you think.

Give a Banger a Balabushka, they will still be a Banger.
You’re always a one-way street on this topic….conversely, give a good player a better cue, and he’ll play at a higher level.
 
You’re always a one-way street on this topic….conversely, give a good player a better cue, and he’ll play at a higher level.

I don't think that is true at all....but I also can't tell if you're arguing for or against that statement, haha.

I guess maybe it depends on how you define "better". But I don't think if you gave Shane an amazingly crafted Szamboti, Balabushka, or similar cue most people would classify as "better" than his Cuetec, that he would actually play any better.

I think the modern quality production cue is plenty good to play truly top level pool. Basic butt, good carbon or wood low deflection shaft, and you're really set for top-level play. Pre LD/Carbon era maybe you'd have a little more of a point but even then I'm not sure that argument holds water.

Now, I'm not talking about a comparison to an absolute POS cue....there is a minimum level a cue needs to meet and then there are personal preferences on top of that. But I think most players of any level can play their best game with something solidly sub-$1k and what I would call a decent cue.
 
I don't think that is true at all....but I also can't tell if you're arguing for or against that statement, haha.

I guess maybe it depends on how you define "better". But I don't think if you gave Shane an amazingly crafted Szamboti, Balabushka, or similar cue most people would classify as "better" than his Cuetec, that he would actually play any better.

I think the modern quality production cue is plenty good to play truly top level pool. Basic butt, good carbon or wood low deflection shaft, and you're really set for top-level play. Pre LD/Carbon era maybe you'd have a little more of a point but even then I'm not sure that argument holds water.

Now, I'm not talking about a comparison to an absolute POS cue....there is a minimum level a cue needs to meet and then there are personal preferences on top of that. But I think most players of any level can play their best game with something solidly sub-$1k and what I would call a decent cue.
Lee Trevino was told about a new putter….so he putted with it for a while…went into the pro shop and bought one.
When he went back to the motel, he raised the putter over his head and smashed it on the carpet on the heel, changing the angle slightly…..
……that was the putter that put him in the hall of fame.

Byron Nelson had the same set of clubs for years….when they came out with the idea of swing weighting, they tested Byron’s set and found that it was bang-on except for either the four or the eight iron…Byron said he never could find one that suited him.
 
This was done on AZBilliards 10 or so years ago. I believe 10 different style of cues were sent to various members to see if they could tell the difference. All the cues were covered so the participants could not identify anything about them. I slightly remember the results but have not been able to find the posts. Does anyone remember?
I remember when someone did this but it was with cue joints. I think they covered the joints with masking tape. And, yeah. Nobody got it right.
 
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