Exactly. You people are really bored. Chicken shit morons abound, get over it.I want the 20 min back that I just spent reading through this thread!
Exactly. You people are really bored. Chicken shit morons abound, get over it.I want the 20 min back that I just spent reading through this thread!
I don't think she should have relinquished the table- if I were her I would have kept shooting and dared him to do something about it. Just horrendous on this guy's part. Blatantly obvious shot.I get that rules are rules, but holy crap, can you not be a gentleman, use your brain, and acknowledge that blatantly obvious combo she played? And this was how he ended up winning the match, since it went hill hill because of this. Savannah handled it well. She is going to be pure class just like allison fisher.
Love that he missed the ten ball! This guy has labeled himself forever thanks to this video. He will from now on always be the butt of jokes wherever he goes. To do something so idiotic while playing a 14 year old girl is beyond belief. Plus the fact he was well ahead in the match already. Mr. Hoang will now be known throughout the pool world as a bully who picks on kids. And he will deserve whatever recognition comes his way, be it good or bad. Good job sir!
Watch at 39.48 this tool calls Roadrunner a foul on an obvious combo that half the pros would never call in a match. Then go to the end and listen to what he says to her.
Boom! If he was any kind of a man he would have graciously told her to remember to call all combinations so some nitwit doesn't call a foul on her! Instead he WAS the nitwit!I know exactly what it feels like to be a child beating adults who have been playing for decades. I was 12 when I started winning against most of the adults in my town and I remember so many situations where adults tried to cheat or shark me just because they couldn't stand losing to a kid. It's probably even worse for Savannah because she's a girl. That said, I've never denied anyone a handshake and my dad, who has accompanied me to every tournament, has never had an outburst like the parents in the video have.
In my opinion, the player several decades older than her who was also winning 5-2 could have let this shot slide and made her aware of it later.
maybe I misheard her, but I think she said "I only shake hands"- we couldn't see what was going on, but perhaps he tried to hug her? Not sureIn call shot, you must call every bank, every carom and every combo. Personally, I can't stand the use of call shot rules, but when they are in use, the players that don't observe them should not be cut any slack.
Savannah was in the wrong here during the match. The post-match comments were out of line, but Savannah was just as rude in her reply, and her decision not to shake opponent's hand came before, not after, the unpleasantries. I give her a pass as she is so young, but she's got some things to learn about observance of the rules and also in maintaining her dignity at the table.
Those comfortable with keeping pool in the gutter will likely defend her here. I want better than this for our sport, and a player as visible as Savannah needs to adhere to a higher standard of behavior than most.
She'll learn from this so let's not judge her on a single moment of indiscretion. Wishing her the best.
if there was a ref there would he call it on her. if he wouldnt, would he call it on others and why?
and isnt the opponent the ref when no one is there to be it. and should he call what a real ref would be required to call, or call what he may
choose to call?
does a ref. have the option to call rules on some people in a tournament and not others because of personal choices or biases?
At the end of the video, it seemed pretty clear to me that the man and the woman who made those statements were near the mic and both statements were directed to Hoang for having called that on Savannah, which ended up being the difference in the hill-hill match. I commend Savannah’s composure for the way she handled it.
thanks for clearing
Wow what great role models. I’m not saying what the guy did was ok but rules are rules and better learned when you’re young because the pool world , bars , clubs , pool rooms are full of nits just like him . It was a missed learning opportunity by her parents to explain to her the rules of the ADULT TOURNAMENT AND A LIFE LESSON…… I’m trying to be nice about this , Rules are Rules !!!!!!The man and woman heard speaking are her parents
Well said sir . That’s what I was trying to sayA few things, and then I’ll not respond to this thread.
1. Savanna should have called the combo. She’s an aspiring professional, and I don’t ever remember a professional in that situation not call it. She knows the rules. The refs will call it if they didn’t hear the call (Mika vs De Luna)
2. As her opponent, I would never have called it. I would have said something on the down low to remember to call the shot as a ref will call it down the road. That said, Dang Huy flew in from Vietnam. No idea what he’s used to in Vietnam, but I know he’s expecting everyone to play by the rules, and he would expect someone to call him on infractions.
3. Dan Huy Hoang is better known as BloKid on AZBilliards. Nothing but a class guy to deal with when buying extensions from him. He didn’t create the situation, though his actions are something most of us wouldn’t have done.
4. Her parents were out of line.
I’ve had enough of this situation. I hope Savannah takes some responsibility, her people apologize for their out-of-line comments, and Dang apologizes for his error in judgement.
Putting this thread on ignore.
I know exactly what it feels like to be a child beating adults who have been playing for decades. I was 12 when I started winning against most of the adults in my town and I remember so many situations where adults tried to cheat or shark me just because they couldn't stand losing to a kid. It's probably even worse for Savannah because she's a girl. That said, I've never denied anyone a handshake and my dad, who has accompanied me to every tournament, has never had an outburst like the parents in the video have.
In my opinion, the player several decades older than her who was also winning 5-2 could have let this shot slide and made her aware of it later.
Absolutely not.does a ref. have the option to call rules on some people in a tournament and not others because of personal choices or biases?
This whole fiasco was because she didn't call the combo?? This guy is a complete and total piece of shit.
Jay see post #79..Boom! If he was any kind of a man he would have graciously told her to remember to call all combinations so some nitwit doesn't call a foul on her! Instead he WAS the nitwit!
Yes, they should get rid of call shot.So ... Should CSI change its rules? Do the players have any responsibility to know the rules of the game?