Due to the changing times of the DYI'ers who seem to have taken over this forum, who in fact feel that they are more knowledgeable than we mechanics are, who feel it's in their best interest to create their own forum because they feel they know more about working on pool tables than we do....I'm all for no longer posting anymore advice to anyone in this form from now on, and until AZB decides to clean up the disruption in this forum, how about we just quit offering our support, I for one don't need this bullshit, life is to short to have to out up with these people!!