Then a polite NO is all Lou has to say.
$20,000 Challenge to Lou Figueroa.
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Then a polite NO is all Lou has to say.
I know this doesn't mean much to you, pj, but I agree with what you just said 100%. :smile:
Lou isn't going to play John in a rotation game. He has some brains. Besides this isn't a CTE vs NON- CTE battle. It's just a bad blood match up
It may appear self serving to respond to this Dave, but perfect analysis of what is at the heart of the matter!
Colin
You use the small sample when it's the only sample that exists.
A 10-ahead set in 1 pocket could potentially take an eternity, especially at the pace they played at last time. Not sure that is good for either contestant, given the potential expenses for travel and accommodations.
Aside from that I will simply add three words, that those in the know (or with access to Google search) will understand well.
Dunning Kruger Effect
Aside from that I will simply add three words, that those in the know (or with access to Google search) will understand well.
Dunning Kruger Effect
Still don't get it
If Lou stalled last time, and tells everyone he did, John should be asking
for 8 to 7. But he's not. He is willing to play even and double the bet, and
play a 10 ahead set for crying out loud. He's not asking for a thing that
gives him an advantage. If Lou is the best player like he and everyone
says, and he can get staked this makes zero sense. There has to be some-
thing else, has to be.
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If Lou stalled last time, and tells everyone he did, John should be asking
for 8 to 7. But he's not. He is willing to play even and double the bet, and
play a 10 ahead set for crying out loud. He's not asking for a thing that
gives him an advantage. If Lou is the best player like he and everyone
says, and he can get staked this makes zero sense. There has to be some-
thing else, has to be.
jack
Free SJD
From memory, the bad blood started over aiming methodologies, CTE vs something. LOL Whatever it is that Lou dribbles the odd ball in with.
Just teasing, but Lou is a wise player, still a few aiming systems or practice sessions away from a shortstop.
So in that sense, such challenges are far from debates on aiming methods, but they are sure fun to observe
Colin
Colin,
In the games you mention, you don't "interact" with your opponent. When you bowl, he's done, and his pins are 'washed" away. In darts, he take his darts out before you shoot. Same in archery same in shooting. There is nothing you can "defend" against unless you "shoot" your opponent
I agree. This is not a CTE verses Non-CTE battle. Both guys know that this match would prove nothing about which system is better, and both know that top notch pool can be played because of or in spite of (as the case may be) the use of ghost ball or feel or CTE.
This is simply a bad blood school yard brawl taken inside to the pool table instead. The bad blood and dislikes have largely been caused during the course of their disagreements over systems, but the match is simply an expression of the bad blood itself and is not intended by either one as having anything to do with showing which system is best (and both know it could never do that even if they wanted it to).
I know what my level is. As for the match length, who cares? The top one pocket players match up ahead sets and some have gone about a hundred games before a winner emerges. Better than a simple race. One of my regrets from the last match was not insisting on an ahead set. You can analyze it all you want to but the fact is I played like a donkey trying to spear birds and finished day one down two games IF we had been playing an ahead set.
Pretty sure I didn't run more than 2 balls........
Luckily you only need 8 to win a game.
I realize this is personal between you and Lou but if you are just looking for action you could walk into a lot of pool halls in St Louis and get one pocket action from guys you never heard of who get tired of playing each other all the time and would love a new guy. I wouldn't flash the bankroll because it can be dangerous but I imagine you already know that.
I doubt any of them would buy a case from you so if that is your goal you probably wouldn't like it.
1) Who cares how long the match takes for $20k? If you take the purse and divide it by the total number of games they play, it'll STILL be WAY more per game than a HUGE majority of the posters here have ever played for - guaranteed.
2) Lou's response was bizarre. Bizarre to the max. He's clearly the better player by a solar system. Lou's recent post of his 100-something ball 14.1 was very smooth and talented. You can give John 50 years and he wouldn't run balls like that. Forget PJ's MR reply/analysis -- that's the "stupid analyzing the bizarre." If John asked Lou to play at the top of K2, Lou SHOULD be insta-calling and making phone calls to hire the sherpas. Who the hell cares WHERE the last match was played, are you frickin' KIDDING me?!?!?!?!!?!??? If I ran out like Lou and John chirped a $20k bet and listed VERY reasonable "non-negotiables," I'd basically be telling my wife to not expect me around the house too much between now and the match and to book my flight asap. If John wants the match to take place in Mozambique, Lou should make sure his passport is up to date and learn the pops and clicks it takes to ask for a water and where the bathroom is at. Unreal.
3) Lou is clearly a heavy favorite -- what is the line if this goes off? People think John has ZERO chance to win and that can't be true. If someone gives me a REAL line that reflects the REAL difference in ability, I'd like to bet on John.
Lou's post was chicken-shittified to the abso-effing-lute max. Just sayin'.
2) Lou's response was bizarre. Bizarre to the max. He's clearly the better player by a solar system. Lou's recent post of his 100-something ball 14.1 was very smooth and talented. You can give John 50 years and he wouldn't run balls like that. Forget PJ's MR reply/analysis -- that's the "stupid analyzing the bizarre." If John asked Lou to play at the top of K2, Lou SHOULD be insta-calling and making phone calls to hire the sherpas. Who the hell cares WHERE the last match was played, are you frickin' KIDDING me?!?!?!?!!?!??? If I ran out like Lou and John chirped a $20k bet and listed VERY reasonable "non-negotiables," I'd basically be telling my wife to not expect me around the house too much between now and the match and to book my flight asap. If John wants the match to take place in Mozambique, Lou should make sure his passport is up to date and learn the pops and clicks it takes to ask for a water and where the bathroom is at. Unreal.
3) Lou is clearly a heavy favorite -- what is the line if this goes off? People think John has ZERO chance to win and that can't be true. If someone gives me a REAL line that reflects the REAL difference in ability, I'd like to bet on John.
Lou's post was chicken-shittified to the abso-effing-lute max. Just sayin'.
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CRJ,Colin,
In the games you mention, you don't "interact" with your opponent. When you bowl, he's done, and his pins are 'washed" away. In darts, he take his darts out before you shoot. Same in archery same in shooting. There is nothing you can "defend" against unless you "shoot" your opponent
That format would surely rate higher than the last democratic debate. LOL
Colin
Yup.
"inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude"
pj <- applies to more than physical skills
chgo
I don't assume anything. I simply put out what I want to do and how much I want to play for. If Lou has emotional reasons for not wanting to play that's up to him. The way I see it is that the majority of people feel that he is a lock to win. So if practically free money isn't enough to travel for a few days then it's not on me.
Be careful though how far you go with the insults Pat. Mike made it perfectly clear about the tone he wants to see in this thread.
Ron Swanson
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Did you warn Stan when he had a pop at satori?
Ron Swanson
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Wrong thread. 'merica!!!!!
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