2008 AZ Straight Pool Challenge!

last night

i had my first real run for this year: 37

i'm still a bit frustrated, cuz i missed an almost straight-in 1.5-footer.
but thats me - as soon as i start playing good, i have trouble keeping the thoughts out of my head:(
after the first two racks, there seemed to be a 40 on every ball on the table - damn, i hate this game!

but wait a minute...i love it;)

i'll have a couple of chances to get past sixty this year, and i guess i'll make it at least once. i just need to get used to playing good again...:rolleyes:
 
I don't know why Steve Lipsky hasn't posted this yet. He ran a 135 on Monday which means he now has two 100+ runs in 4 league matches. Everybody hates him now.

Seriously, I hope you guys appreciate him as much as his local room does. His willingness to convey what he knows to aspiring players is truly seen in person. Seeing one of his students run 100 would probably be even more exciting to him than breaking his own high run. Having him in the room is like perpetually having the big kid on your team at the sandlot.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
I don't know why Steve Lipsky hasn't posted this yet. He ran a 135 on Monday which means he now has two 100+ runs in 4 league matches. Everybody hates him now.

Seriously, I hope you guys appreciate him as much as his local room does. His willingness to convey what he knows to aspiring players is truly seen in person. Seeing one of his students run 100 would probably be even more exciting to him than breaking his own high run. Having him in the room is like perpetually having the big kid on your team at the sandlot.

Jude

Agreed. Steve is one of the most knowledgable people playing 14.1 today. I am surprised my 163 has lasted as long as it has - usually by this time in February I've blasted 140+ balls only to get chopped down by Harriman, Schmidt, or Hohmann. This year, I seriously believe that Steve will sit atop the board if he keeps playing as well as he has lately.

I'm pulling for Steve to finally hit the 200 mark. When I hit 200+ back in 1994 (204) I was ecstatic. I was on cloud nine for about 2 weeks. Steve has all the skills necessary, but for the past few years he hasn't had the time. Hopefully this is one of those periods in his life where it all comes together for him.

Just like you, I'm a big fan of guys that share their knowledge with others - I consider you, Stu, Tony, and Steve to be the goldmine of pocket billiards knowledge in NYC. I learned a long time ago that you have to give it away to keep it. I learn more from teaching others than from practicing diligently until I frustrate myself. Keep up the good work.
 
Thanks guys... Jude, on Monday I actually ran two 100s, a 109 and a 135. However, the reason I didn't post it is because - and this is nothing short of bizarre - in both runs I crapped in a ball (missed, but it went in the called pocket)! LMAO. In the 109, it happened at 83, and in the 135, it happened at like 7 or something.

Still, I've run over a hundred about 6 times this year so far, so I feel I'm playing really well... I'm enjoying the game again and generally can't wait to hit the tables.

David, I'd like nothing more than to make you proud and hit that 200! You and your posts are an inspiration to all of us looking to improve our games, I hope you know that.

Jude, thanks, that was really nice. One thing I've been doing lately with a lot of the guys in the room is playing scotch doubles 14.1 with them (not against anyone, we just try to run balls together). It allows them to see my thought processes, and we talk things out as to why I may do one thing or another. Sometimes they have ideas that I hadn't considered, so it's helpful from both sides. Anyway, whenever you want to try it, let's do it...

- Steve
 
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Jude Rosenstock said:
Seriously, I hope you guys appreciate him as much as his local room does. His willingness to convey what he knows to aspiring players is truly seen in person. Having him in the room is like perpetually having the big kid on your team at the sandlot.

JR,
Yes, and playing against him is like playing against that big bully on the other team at the sandlot.:) :) :)

I will echo your sentiment that AZB is fortunate to have him as a contributor.
After our match at the Maryland tournament, he was gracious enough to communicate some critique and tips to me....VERY HELPFUL and perceptive.

In the future, I am definitely planning a pool trip to NYC; it would be awesome to hang out for a few days with sjm, JR, and SL. Hopefully you guys will make a visit to Betmore's Basement if you ever venture west of the Hudson.

P.S. - I've tried that Scotch doubles 14.1 (alternating shots, not innings) with Mark Wilson; it is a GREAT way to learn some straight pool, and I believe it makes it more entertaining for the instructor as well.
 
Blackjack said:
Jude

Agreed. Steve is one of the most knowledgable people playing 14.1 today. I am surprised my 163 has lasted as long as it has - usually by this time in February I've blasted 140+ balls only to get chopped down by Harriman, Schmidt, or Hohmann. This year, I seriously believe that Steve will sit atop the board if he keeps playing as well as he has lately.

I'm pulling for Steve to finally hit the 200 mark. When I hit 200+ back in 1994 (204) I was ecstatic. I was on cloud nine for about 2 weeks. Steve has all the skills necessary, but for the past few years he hasn't had the time. Hopefully this is one of those periods in his life where it all comes together for him.

Just like you, I'm a big fan of guys that share their knowledge with others - I consider you, Stu, Tony, and Steve to be the goldmine of pocket billiards knowledge in NYC. I learned a long time ago that you have to give it away to keep it. I learn more from teaching others than from practicing diligently until I frustrate myself. Keep up the good work.


Wow Blackjack, that's really nice of you to say! Thank you!

I was Steve's opponent when he ran 101 with a house cue and it's moments like that that really make me wish I never played 9-ball. The league we play in has no less than 6 players that have high-runs over 100. It's very humbling. What's more, all of these 14.1 players quickly turn around and play 9-ball like it's a joke.
 
Williebetmore said:
Hopefully you guys will make a visit to Betmore's Basement if you ever venture west of the Hudson.


Yes, New Jersey. We go to New Jersey all the time. I understand somewhere past New Jersey is California and then the Pacific.
 
Just to make Irish, Emerald, LoGiC, Caromsoft and daphish feel better..

..I'll play along.

I had a high run of 10 Friday. I was actually playing pretty well for playing my first straight pool in years (and I've played less than ten times total). I was making shots and controling the cueball well.

My shortcoming was breaking balls out successfully. The balls seemed to want to go right back into the stack. I had many 6 and 7 ball runs then had to play safe because of unsuccessful breakout shots.

Won the game 100-89 though.

I appreciate this thread as it will make me focus on moving up the ladder!

MM
 
What are the odds? I don't play a lot of straight pool but tend to shoot every once in a while. Someone told me to play more straight pool and I will become a much better 9 ball player. Last year my high run was 36 balls. A few weeks ago I made a new high run of 53 balls. Today, again, I ran exactly 53 balls. The last rack was like quick sand and I couldn't get out of trouble. Anyone else experience something like this? I guess I just can't run in the 40's ha ha.
 
First 20!

Hi,

I've just finished practicing with my new cue (5K1 + 314-2) and I did my first 20 run!

It was a pity to scratch after potting the key ball; I was already ready (maybe that was the problem) to start my first third rack! (Did 7 in the first and 13 in the second).

Ciao.

P.S.
Could you please update the list? I'd like to see my 20 there :) Thanks.
 
Here's an update as of the afternoon of Feb. 27th.
  1. 163 - Blackjack, Jan
  2. 135 - Steve Lipsky, Feb
  3. 100 - John Schmidt, Jan
  4. 98 - Thorsten Hohmann, Jan
  5. 78 - BigCat, Feb
  6. 75 - Bob Jewett, Feb
  7. 71 - Marop, Jan
  8. 68 - I rack balls, Feb
  9. 53 - skip2134, Feb
  10. 51 - forabeer, Jan
  11. 47 - selftaut, Jan
  12. 45 - efirkey, Jan
  13. 43 - bud green, Jan
  14. 41 - Williebetmore, Feb
  15. 39 - justin.powell, Feb
  16. 39 - dmgwalsh, Jan
  17. 38 - strtshtr, Feb
  18. 37 - Krisz, Feb
  19. 29 - Solartje, Feb
  20. 29 - JayBates, Jan
  21. 29 - DJKeys, Jan
  22. 28 - robertno1pool, Feb
  23. 26 - Roy Steffensen, Feb
  24. 20 - Vahmurka, Feb
  25. 20 - mfoolb, Feb
  26. 20 - Bellsr, Feb
  27. 18 - Irish634, Jan
  28. 17 - LoGiC, Jan
  29. 16 - daphish1, Jan
  30. 14 - BVal, Feb
  31. 10 - MikeM, Feb
  32. 10 - EmeraldCoastHW, Feb
 
bill marop and i

we just recovered some gc4s a week ago here in pensacola.i have not played 14.1 since the derby because the cloth was bad.anyway im setting up a camera from the 7th through the 10 to see if i can run over 300 on film.with only 3 days i dont think i can do it but ill try.what i plan on doing is when and if i get fortunate enough to run 300 or more on film,i then am going to do a voice over with my very close friend bill marop.he is very smart about 14.1 and will be good to have in the voice over .its hard to talk to yourself for 2-3 hours and make any sense.bill and i are going to play for 3 days and see what we can capture on film.by the way he has run in the 90s a bunch of times including a 97.i call him mr97 but i think hes going to break that when he comes out in march.anyway im going to try to get a nice run on film,then at the end do about a thirty minute break shot,patterns,key balls etc dicussion.i learned a few things from the last dvd i made and hopefully can improve on this one .i hope to help keep one of the best poolgames alive and will let you guys know when the dvd is done
 
john schmidt said:
we just recovered some gc4s a week ago here in pensacola.i have not played 14.1 since the derby because the cloth was bad.anyway im setting up a camera from the 7th through the 10 to see if i can run over 300 on film.with only 3 days i dont think i can do it but ill try.what i plan on doing is when and if i get fortunate enough to run 300 or more on film,i then am going to do a voice over with my very close friend bill marop.he is very smart about 14.1 and will be good to have in the voice over .its hard to talk to yourself for 2-3 hours and make any sense.bill and i are going to play for 3 days and see what we can capture on film.by the way he has run in the 90s a bunch of times including a 97.i call him mr97 but i think hes going to break that when he comes out in march.anyway im going to try to get a nice run on film,then at the end do about a thirty minute break shot,patterns,key balls etc dicussion.i learned a few things from the last dvd i made and hopefully can improve on this one .i hope to help keep one of the best poolgames alive and will let you guys know when the dvd is done


John, I bought your 245 run DVD and really enjoyed watching it. I'm glad you enjoy straight pool enough to do these productions. I'm a fan.

Just to put my two cents in as a straight pool viewer, the player review style of commentating is great but for me takes second place to the player talking about his thought process while he's actually shooting. The fact that you've run 403 balls in the past is all the credentials you need to sell a DVD instructional to me. You don't have to do it again. I don't care if someone with your proven ability misses on occasion. I just want to know, in every detail, how you think while you're playing. It may sound tedious, but could be a real gem if you ever decide to do it.

What I would love to see, whether on this upcoming production or a future one, is for you to actually play in less than ideal conditions, where balls aren't opening up well, not for the purpose of a high run, only for instruction.

When you're faced with 5 open shots, tell us why you're choosing the one that you do and why you're playing that particular shape for the subsequent shots or groups of shots. What are you ignoring for now, what are you keeping in the back of your mind, etc.

My favorite straight pool instructional so far is Jim Rempe's because he really allows us to get into his head while he's shooting. I also have a Mike Sigel tape(out of print maybe) where he runs 100 balls telling us what he's thinking while shooting. Online there's a Ray Martin 90 some ball run where he does the same. Even though it's poorly recorded, there's a lot to learn. He also receives questions from the crowd while shooting which is helpful. Having good straight pool players in the audience allowed to ask you questions during your play would be great.

I think it's easy to forget the minute details of what you were thinking when doing a player review after the fact.

Maybe it can actually be great if enough time is put into post analysis before recording the audio, like taking notes after watching each rack and fully remembering your thoughts and decisions. Then after having that solid refresher, you record your thoughts over that rack's section of tape. Stopping and studying each successive rack like that, and then recording.

Whatever you decide to do, I look forward to supporting it. Straight pool is the only game that holds my interest, and I love that you're helping to keep it alive.

Peace!
Jeff
 
john schmidt said:
we just recovered some gc4s a week ago here in pensacola.i have not played 14.1 since the derby because the cloth was bad.anyway im setting up a camera from the 7th through the 10 to see if i can run over 300 on film.with only 3 days i dont think i can do it but ill try.what i plan on doing is when and if i get fortunate enough to run 300 or more on film,i then am going to do a voice over with my very close friend bill marop.he is very smart about 14.1 and will be good to have in the voice over .its hard to talk to yourself for 2-3 hours and make any sense.bill and i are going to play for 3 days and see what we can capture on film.by the way he has run in the 90s a bunch of times including a 97.i call him mr97 but i think hes going to break that when he comes out in march.anyway im going to try to get a nice run on film,then at the end do about a thirty minute break shot,patterns,key balls etc dicussion.i learned a few things from the last dvd i made and hopefully can improve on this one .i hope to help keep one of the best poolgames alive and will let you guys know when the dvd is done

John

If you need any help with this, don't hesitate to give me a call.

Dave
 
Bob Jewett said:
Here's an update as of the afternoon of Feb. 27th.
  1. 163 - Blackjack, Jan
  2. 135 - Steve Lipsky, Feb
  3. 100 - John Schmidt, Jan
  4. 98 - Thorsten Hohmann, Jan
  5. 78 - BigCat, Feb
  6. 75 - Bob Jewett, Feb
  7. 71 - Marop, Jan
  8. 68 - I rack balls, Feb
  9. 53 - skip2134, Feb
  10. 51 - forabeer, Jan
  11. 47 - selftaut, Jan
  12. 45 - efirkey, Jan
  13. 43 - bud green, Jan
  14. 41 - Williebetmore, Feb
  15. 39 - justin.powell, Feb
  16. 39 - dmgwalsh, Jan
  17. 38 - strtshtr, Feb
  18. 37 - Krisz, Feb
  19. 29 - Solartje, Feb
  20. 29 - JayBates, Jan
  21. 29 - DJKeys, Jan
  22. 28 - robertno1pool, Feb
  23. 26 - Roy Steffensen, Feb
  24. 20 - Vahmurka, Feb
  25. 20 - mfoolb, Feb
  26. 20 - Bellsr, Feb
  27. 18 - Irish634, Jan
  28. 17 - LoGiC, Jan
  29. 16 - daphish1, Jan
  30. 14 - BVal, Feb
  31. 10 - MikeM, Feb
  32. 10 - EmeraldCoastHW, Feb

Thanks Bob, sorry finding it hard to get to AZ at the moment as move citys/jobs this weekend.

If you guys could send me a PM though when you make a run that would help a little. I've cleared some space now.

Great runs!
 
I witnessed first hand at the Dutch Bootcamp (training with Alex Lely and Johan Ruijsink) how the real pros play straight. Nick vdBerg was playing against Stephan Cohen (not a slouch himself with PB somewhere just shy of 300) on the last day and missed an annoying cut to the middle pocket. Result was 285 (his own Dutch record stands at 293). Had he not missed it, there were only 'easyish' balls on table so 300+ was very much on the charts....too bad....

Personally stand at meager 21 :(

Next time Nick!!

Cheers,
Kimmo

Considering this came after 4 days of hard exercises and not at peak-performance time....respect!
 
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Been meaning to post here for a while but I haven't found the time to play straight pool lately...although I'll be looking to remedy that. I ran 25 last week so you can put me down for 25 in February. Thanx. :cool:
 
john schmidt, all the best with your DVD initiative. Great you are considering to add instructional part to your run. I share the thoughts expressed by bluepepper, and would like to hear preferably not post-game comment but in-game one. Let it be a "short" run of a 100, may be more if you could do that. I have your 245 run disc, and that's very nice tape, but that is past. The only goal there could be the longest run recorded IMO.
Once you would like Bill Marop be involved, I suggest you could do the following which is completely new approach. While you do your in-game comments being on the mic, Bill sits besides and does his own commentary of what you are doing and the way he sees it.
Could you also try to make an instuctional DVD - may be in a way of straight pool clinics you ran at DCC, or based on the questions/most common problems your students faced there.
 
hi

one of the posters mentioned that i should do a run where i explain my thoughts through the run and give you every option and detail and then you would understand why and how i shot every shot.bill and i talked about it and i think im going to do just that.we start filming on the 7th and will be done on the 10th.i think this will be m uch more useful to people to improve their game instead of me just putting out a tape where you watch me run 200-300 and fall asleep .last dvd i had to talk as fast as i shot because it was a voice over.this time i can explain many things much better.the first hundred i will talk through then i might keep going and see how many we get on film maybe over 300 if i get a little lucky.
 
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