Niels is still a solid player but his window for winning these events is rapidly closing. I remember when he last won World Pool Masters in I believe 2018. It seemed normal because he was still elite. Now, it would be something of a surprise/upset just five years later.I say this as a big Niels Feijen fan, but why? He won the event in 2014, whereas anyone else would be a first time winner. Wu Kun Lin and Soufi are dark horses in my mind and would bring a lot of excitement if they won. Chang/FSR too even though they're big names in the pool world at the moment, would be first time winners.
(Edit: sorry, Niels won in 2014, not 2013)
Very true. I'm still rooting for him. This conversation could also be moot in assuming that he will reach the semis, because Mario He has leveled it at 9-9 and breaking.Niels is still a solid player but his window for winning these events is rapidly closing. I remember when he last won World Pool Masters in I believe 2018. It seemed normal because he was still elite. Now, it would be something of a surprise/upset just five years later.
Yes I’m watching from my home here. You can watch it also in some of the local bars. We get SkySports using a device called a FireStick attached to your television. With it I can watch thousands of stations worldwide. I paid for the Stick and a monthly fee of 1000P. No cable necessary.Jay, are you watching from the Phillipines? How is the coverage over there? Are people going to bars/pool rooms to watch this? Or watching from home? Or not watching at all?
NotYou guys are nuts IMO asking for tighter pockets. No matter how "tight" the pocket, there will always be some shots on the edge of staying out or falling in. Whether the pocket is 10" or 3". The number of those shots has been quite small this event.
Furthermore, most of the shots that bobbled in seem to have been hit on the "pro" side of the pocket. They didn't rub the rail on the way in, like when most shots bobble. They hit the opposite tit of the pocket, and fell in. The players hit them well enough, hit them on the pro side, and were rewarded for them dropping.
That's my story, and I'm sticking to it
I say this as a big Niels Feijen fan, but why? He won the event in 2014, whereas anyone else would be a first time winner. Wu Kun Lin and Soufi are dark horses in my mind and would bring a lot of excitement if they won. Chang/FSR too even though they're big names in the pool world at the moment, would be first time winners.
(Edit: sorry, Niels won in 2014, not 2013)
I don't recall SVB or Orcullo ever being speed demons. I either didn't see or don't recall Sky's recent play at Turning Stone so I can't say if your assessment of his speed is accurate or not, but even if he was playing fast so what, all you did was point out a case of where a guy played well while playing fast, something we both already agree can happen. My contention is that you don't, on average, play your best that way so it is rarely the best idea to play that way if playing your best is the main goal.Did you see how well Sky played at Tourning Stone? He was playing faster than I've seen him play in a long time. When SVB gets rolling he can play very fast. Orcullo does the same, as do many top professionals.
I don't recall ever saying people can't play well with a shot clock.Heck, even Mr. Slow and Smooth Morra just played nearly flawless in his elimination match WHILE playing under a 30 second shot clock! I saw repeated shots where he didn't even bother to site the shotline from the pocket out through the object ball like he normally does on every shot. How was that possible? Albin is the same. He can be painfully deliberate at times but he pretty much ALWAYS plays great -- even with a shot clock. Hmmm.
That is not at all different than or inconsistent with what I said after when I spelled it out a little more.Now you're just changing what you said. You were much more empathic with your language. Let me remind you what you said: "...the totality of the evidence supporting that everybody (once you force yourself to get used to it and give it a fair chance) will play to their maximum potential when they play slow is overwhelming."
It's hard to argue with people who willfully ignore the evidence when it doesn't go along with how they would prefer things to be.It's hard to argue with someone who actually believes this.
It depends on the shot. I don't think 20 warm up strokes (if that is what you mean by "feather the cue ball") are ever necessary though.Do players need to be deliberate enough that they properly study the table -- Yes! Do players need to study every single shot possibility, every angle, every potential carom line, only to then get down on the ball and feather the cue ball 20 times? Most certainly not!
What I think happens is that people that don't enjoy playing at a very deliberate careful pace which that invariably is on the slower end of the spectrum, or that don't enjoy when their opponent plays at that pace, or don't enjoy watching pool played at that pace, ignore the evidence clearly showing that it results in better play simply because they just don't want it to be true.What I think happens is players create a self-fulfilling prophecy once they go down the slow play road, where every mistake they make they attribute to a skipped step in their ever growing pre-shot routine. It's really hard to tell yourself you missed because you simply stroked the ball poorly. It's much easier to believe you somehow didn't see the shot angle properly, even though you've shot the shot thousands of times.
I've mentioned that in the past. You absolutely might be enjoying the game more when you play fast, but you aren't playing to your fullest potential. And that's fine if getting more playing enjoyment takes precedence over playing better and winning more.I'm playing more free and enjoying the game more.
You can't have your best mechanics or anything else when done fast. Doesn't mean people have to take two years on a shot either, but the fact is most people would benefit from taking more time, at least on a portion of their shots.One HUGE enormous problem with the whole conversation of fast vs slow play is that having actually good, textbook, shot mechanics doesn't necessarily have anything to do with pace of play.
They do, but they don't do anything as well as they would if they were more careful and deliberate which invariably requires slowing down a bit.In the past, I think most fast players had poor technique. Not only would they fly around the table, but they would also fly around on the shot. Today's faster players actually have much better technique while down on the ball.
I don't recall not being respectful unless respect wasn't due so not sure why you would say that. I did recently call out a racist for being a racist, and I could see were that would offend other racists. Is that what got you offended as being "not respectful" because I can't think of anything else?When you learn to discuss topics on here while remaining respectful, you may find a member who welcomes and possibly even respects your opinion. From reading your recent posts, I feel that is unlikely to happen any time soon.