9-Ball World Championship $36k!?!?

[CrownCityCorey]

Congratulations to my friend Thorsten Hohman on his second 9-World Championships! I am super happy for you!

...but to see the World Champioships pay $36,000! Back in 2004 when I played in Taiwan (Alex P. won that), 1st place paid $75,000. It's amazing to me how almost 10 years later, with the cost of living going up, that the prize money has been cut more that 50%.

 

[Joe_Jaguar]

Maybe the Sheiks are hurting for money out there in the sand.
Now they will be hosting it for four more years.

 

[mel_smOg]

it is pretty sad for pool, at least snooker guys got it right and increased payouts dramatically in the last few years (almost $400k for world title).
really hope pool officials will start increasing payouts for major championships

 

[iusedtoberich]

Well, first place is only part of the picture. We need the total payout, total added, and entry fees to have an apples to apples comparison.

 

[cleary]

I made way less than $36,000 this week too. Sucks...

 

[bdorman]

A couple weeks ago I won our local 8-ball tournament and pocketed a whopping $40. Investment advisers came out of the woodwork to sign me up as a client.

Of course, tournament winnings are the chump change. I plan for the REAL MONEY to come from sponsorships and appearance fees.

 

[Playin4Dinner]

Svb pocketed just 25k for his us open title last year, 50k for his us open title in 2007....

Highest I've seen the world title get up to was when daz beat wu in 2008 wpa world 10 ball for 100k.... Wu took home 40k for 2nd place....

 

[hang-the-9]

Congratulations to my friend Thorsten Hohman on his second 9-World Championships! I am super happy for you!

...but to see the World Champioships pay $36,000! Back in 2004 when I played in Taiwan (Alex P. won that), 1st place paid $75,000. It's amazing to me how almost 10 years later, with the cost of living going up, that the prize money has been cut more that 50%.

That's what inflation gets you.

Oh, wait...

It should work the OTHER way, that's right, tough to figure out in this economy. I'm lucky I'm finally back making the same salary I was 10 years ago, if only the rest of my costs stayed the same Hm.. actually I am not even in a full time job, contracting, with no vacation time or other benefits. Whoo, go USA!

 

[Bob Jewett]

Well, first place is only part of the picture. We need the total payout, total added, and entry fees to have an apples to apples comparison.

Here is what the website says. It looks like it pays pretty deep.

Champion 36,000 USD
Runner-up 18,000 USD
3rd ~ 4th 10,000 USD
5th ~ 8th 6,000 USD
9th ~ 16th 4,000 USD
17th ~ 32nd 2,500 USD
33rd ~ 64th 2,000 USD
65th ~ 96th 500 USD (loser of 2nd round in the loser's bracket of Stage 2)
TOTAL 250,000 USD

There are no deductions from prize money for sanction or taxation. ​

I think the entry fee was nominal and it is usually paid by the player's national federation.

(edit, add) The entry fee was $250 for 128 players. Unless the player goes 0-2 he gets at least $500 back.

 

[ENGLISH!]

The Snooker payout comment made a question flash through my mind.

Snooker World Championship...one game.

Pocket Billiards...How many games? How many Championships?

I know it comes down to pocketing balls but how many variations do American players have to bonce back & forth between.

I think we need a structure that leads up to a year end National All Around Pocket Billiards Championship.

Then IF... it gets successful, can maybe then lead to a World All Around Pocket Billiards Championship.

Just a thought from out of nowhere & with no real thought to it.

 

[JCIN]

Here is what the website says. It looks like it pays pretty deep.

Champion 36,000 USD
Runner-up 18,000 USD
3rd ~ 4th 10,000 USD
5th ~ 8th 6,000 USD
9th ~ 16th 4,000 USD
17th ~ 32nd 2,500 USD
33rd ~ 64th 2,000 USD
65th ~ 96th 500 USD (loser of 2nd round in the loser's bracket of Stage 2)
TOTAL 250,000 USD

There are no deductions from prize money for sanction or taxation. ​

I think the entry fee was nominal and it is usually paid by the player's national federation.

(edit, add) The entry fee was $250 for 128 players. Unless the player goes 0-2 he gets at least $500 back.

Paying this deep is ridiculous.

Pay the top 10% like poker. Make cashing mean something.

If they paid top 16 only that would of been $120,000 more to the top guys.

Simply by not paying out people who took home $2,500 or less.

Who the hell goes to a world championship and gives the littlest shit about $2500?

 

[Joe_Jaguar]

Paying this deep is ridiculous.

Pay the top 10% like poker. Make cashing mean something.

If they paid top 16 only that would of been $120,000 more to the top guys.

Simply by not paying out people who took home $2,500 or less.

Who the hell goes to a world championship and gives the littlest shit about $2500?

You guys ought to go to Qatar next year and stream it. Have a camel burger and enjoy a burqua or two.

 

[ENGLISH!]

PGA...make the cut get a check but if at the bottom you probably lose money for the week.

Who wants to go to work every day for the week then when the boss is handing out the checks he shakes your hand & says sorry.

The goal should be for every contestant to NET making money. I know it is not there now & I don't know if it will ever be that way, but that should be the goal.

The PGA should be the model. Unfortunately, pocket billiards is nearly a century behind golf in that regard.

 

[westcoast]

Here is what the website says. It looks like it pays pretty deep.

Champion 36,000 USD
Runner-up 18,000 USD
3rd ~ 4th 10,000 USD
5th ~ 8th 6,000 USD
9th ~ 16th 4,000 USD
17th ~ 32nd 2,500 USD
33rd ~ 64th 2,000 USD
65th ~ 96th 500 USD (loser of 2nd round in the loser's bracket of Stage 2)
TOTAL 250,000 USD

There are no deductions from prize money for sanction or taxation. ​

I think the entry fee was nominal and it is usually paid by the player's national federation.

(edit, add) The entry fee was $250 for 128 players. Unless the player goes 0-2 he gets at least $500 back.

Has the payout always been broken down like this % wise? Is that the reason the top places are so relatively low or declined? If it has always paid out like this, then what is the reason for the decreasing overall pot? What's the solution, if any?

 

[JCIN]

PGA...make the cut get a check but if at the bottom you probably lose money for the week.

Who wants to go to work every day for the week then when the boss is handing out the checks he shakes your hand & says sorry.

The goal should be for every contestant to NET making money. I know it is not there now & I don't know if it will ever be that way, but that should be the goal.

The PGA should be the model. Unfortunately, pocket billiards is nearly a century behind golf in that regard.

When I become king there will be a rule that anyone who compares pro pool to the PGA will have their house burned down.

<------ Raising dragons as we speak

 

[markpatrick]

33rd place

Hell I did better than the guys that came in 33rd place, just by staying home and going to work 5 days. With overtime I finished in 17th place... Not bad for a C player.:smile:

 

[ENGLISH!]

When I become king there will be a rule that anyone who compares pro pool to the PGA will have their house burned down.

<------ Raising dragons as we speak

Golf was/is more of a rich man's game than pocket billiards.

The elder statesman of pocket billiards could have done something very similar to what the old golfers did.

Unfortunately they did not.

Hence, you have golf today vs pocket billiards today. As I said pocket billiards is nearly a century behind golf & multi, multi millions if not billions of dollars behind too.

They took two different roads way back when to different destinations.

 

[bud green]

When I become king there will be a rule that anyone who compares pro pool to the PGA will have their house burned down.

<------ Raising dragons as we speak

You mean pool pool players aren't also in the middle of a playoff that pays 10 millions bucks to the winner?

If you take away SVB's earnings, what would the average of the other top ten US players income be for this year? 30k? 20K?

 

[Johnnyt]

You mean pool pool players aren't also in the middle of a playoff that pays 10 millions bucks to the winner?

If you take away SVB's earnings, what would the average of the other top ten US players income be for this year? 30k? 20K?

Take Shane away and the next 10 average about 57k a year if my math is correct. Also this year still has 3 + months left. Johnnyt

 

[gxman]

Take Shane away and the next 10 average about 57k a year if my math is correct. Also this year still has 3 + months left. Johnnyt

Top 10 U.S players is way way less. Sub 30K for U.S players.