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You are the one who said TAR was gone. Its not.

I have no desire to talk to Mark or Ozzy after the fact. Mark has been very vocal about other promoters when they do things he disagrees with. I don't see why he would have a problem when others do it.

I got Ozzy banned? I guess I logged into his third account and called me disgruntled? All I did was point out the obvious. Honestly I never thought he would get banned. It surprised me. I expect at least one of the accounts will be back at some point. Mike is pretty fair that way.

Edit: When other people take shots at me from obvious clone accounts I will do my best to call them on it. Have in the past.

Justin, you know as well as anyone that the old TAR is gone. What have now, while very good and glad you have it, is not the same TAR, just has the same name. It's like a bread store closing down, re-opening under the same name, but now they sell vegetables instead of bread. Same name, different product.
 
Also Neil just to try and explain to you: All I wanted was for CSI to not go down the road of using Mosconi Cup points as a lever on the players outside of their events. I would do the same for any promoter who did that. Maybe you do not believe that but its the truth.

CSI has a good reputation and its well earned. Everyone makes bad decisions. I have made plenty. My only goal was to speak up for something I felt was wrong in the hopes it wouldn't happen again.
 
When you post with multiple accounts disparaging otherw, it's an instant ban here.

Ideologist, I know of a few members here who have been banned and came back under a new account name. One member had five different identities at one time, at least those that I could find.

That said, as everybody is wont to pointing out, we are guests on this forum and don't make up the rules. As such, even if we disagree with how the rules are carried out, we have to abide by them.

Kind of like how the CSI tournament decision came down. Not everybody will agree, but in the end, it is *their* decision to make, not ours. Same holds true with this forum in regards to banning and not banning, I guess.
 
I got Ozzy banned? I guess I logged into his third account and called me disgruntled? All I did was point out the obvious. Honestly I never thought he would get banned. It surprised me. I expect at least one of the accounts will be back at some point. Mike is pretty fair that way.

Edit: When other people take shots at me from obvious clone accounts I will do my best to call them on it. Have in the past.

Ozzy intentionally got himself banned when he used his third account. No one else had anything to do with it.
 
Justin, you know as well as anyone that the old TAR is gone. What have now, while very good and glad you have it, is not the same TAR, just has the same name. It's like a bread store closing down, re-opening under the same name, but now they sell vegetables instead of bread. Same name, different product.

Thats not how see it. The people who keep enjoying the stuff I put out seem to like it. Something that might not have occurred to you is that maybe I was tired of doing things the way they were being done and wanted to do something different.
 
That's cause he got busted having 3 different accounts.

Fred A. used to have a different forum name and changed it to Cornerman. It happens. Maybe Ozzy changed his name when he started his employment with CSI and moved to Vegas.

I am 99 percent sure that Charlie Williams has posted under multiple forum names, but there's always the element of doubt here if two or more readers of this forum post with the same computer or the same IP address. It could have been, for example, hypotheticlaly speaking, Ozzy's wife who could have posted with one of the older identities, and it registered as the same IP address. This is only a hypothetical example, of course.

BTW, SUPERSTAR, my daughter got her master's of science in the same field a few months ago. :cool:
 
I'm curious, since you have so much respect for Mark and CSI, did you bother to call them and talk about this privately before you got on here to slam them

I've had a PM exchange with Mark over this and nothing has changed. Talking about unethical business practices behind the scenes does nothing but cover them up. What they did was wrong and there is really no other way to see it.

Transparency is a good thing. If your business is on the up & up, it only gains your customers.

I've played in their leagues for years, paying fees that are pure profit for them. After what happened at the Swannee, I stopped playing in their league. Not because I dislike Mark, but because I didn't agree with how they do things with the money I give them. #BreakGate makes matters even worse for me.
 
Also Neil just to try and explain to you: All I wanted was for CSI to not go down the road of using Mosconi Cup points as a lever on the players outside of their events. I would do the same for any promoter who did that. Maybe you do not believe that but its the truth.

CSI has a good reputation and its well earned. Everyone makes bad decisions. I have made plenty. My only goal was to speak up for something I felt was wrong in the hopes it wouldn't happen again.

I commend this post!

Your ethos is very commendable! One of your best qualities.

KD
 
Thats not how see it. The people who keep enjoying the stuff I put out seem to like it. Something that might not have occurred to you is that maybe I was tired of doing things the way they were being done and wanted to do something different.

Hey, I'm just going by how it looks on the outside. Giving my opinion on it. Maybe I should have called you first about it and got more details.??
 
Hey, I'm just going by how it looks on the outside. Giving my opinion on it. Maybe I should have called you first about it and got more details.??

I'll tell you how it looks on the outside. You and Jam are trying your best to defend an organization that messed up just because of who owns it.
 
I'll tell you how it looks on the outside. You and Jam are trying your best to defend an organization that messed up just because of who owns it.

I'm not defending an organization. Come on, now, Satori.

I really don't know much about CSI, truth be told. Never attended any of their events.

Ozzy, on the other hand, hails from my neck of the woods, and I am well aware of what people have told me about him who know him well, who have attended his pool tournaments on the East Coast. He's got a sterling reputation here. If I am defending Ozzy, then, yes, you're right. I am. He has a huge fan base here, and you don't earn a fan base by being a nobody. He deserves a modicum of respect.

Don't think it's right that he's getting raked through the coals while he's banned and cannot speak his thoughts like some others are doing on this thread defending their stances. ;)
 
I'm not defending an organization. Come on, now, Satori.

I really don't know much about CSI, truth be told. Never attended any of their events.

Ozzy, on the other hand, hails from my neck of the woods, and I am well aware of what people have told me about him who know him well, who have attended his pool tournaments on the East Coast. He's got a sterling reputation here. If I am defending Ozzy, then, yes, you're right. I am. He has a huge fan base here, and you don't earn a fan base by being a nobody. He deserves a modicum of respect.

Don't think it's right that he's getting raked through the coals while he's banned and cannot speak his thoughts like some others are doing on this thread defending their stances. ;)

Banning was the best thing for him and he knows it. His Godfather impersonation was something he could not have defended and now he doesn't have to. He's losing face now because of his actions.

I have seen team CSI pile on to others much worse than what is taking place here.
 
Banning was the best thing for him and he knows it. His Godfather impersonation was something he could not have defended and now he doesn't have to. He's losing face now because of his actions.

I have seen team CSI pile on to others much worse than what is taking place here.

So we have members who do not like CSI, and while Ozzy is banned, they're going ot take this opportunity to talk smack about him and CSI. It's not right. I don't care how you slice it.
 
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